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Official response is "mining pools were DDossed".  That's even more annoying... Verge Devs should be well aware what it is after it occured allready some weeks back..... This coin had really a good chance, but with such coding and nonstop multi million expolits i have my doubts it will go anywhere near where we hoped it will get. Not the first coin to be attacked and won't be the last, this too shall pass... I do agree they need to find a real defense against this "time warp" method. 2 hour time window (inherited from BTC) seems waaaaay too lax. Don't most (if not all) warp attacks stem from this laxity ? I think somebody looked into it, and propagation of data network wide takes an average of 6 seconds and maybe 12 seconds max, IIRC. I understand the need to have some laxity in the ordering of timestamps, but ... 2 hours !?! Why not a time window of single-digit multiple of the block time? That should be enough.... Maybe 3x or 5x the block time ? With Verge's 30s block time, this window would then be 90s or maybe 150s (2m 30s). Blocks timestamped outside this window should be rejected. Also, there ought to be a trust score on the peers a node maintains connections with, based on how long they've been connected and how closely a peer's idea of time matches the node's. A peer should not be able to just appear out of the blue, and present a huge fork and have it accepted. Only if said peer has been around long enough to establish a min trust score should their blocks be accepted and re-broadcast. Likewise, if a peers idea of time is more than 30 seconds or so off from ours, the trust score should be lowered (or denied entirely) until their clocks match reality. What do people think ? Would this fix the exploit ? |
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!
After this storm we can see a big blue sky and everything will be smooth and interesting. That's a good chance to get more cheap coins and hold it for a while . I used to get a big profit with this news 3 months ago and now maybe it will return again. |
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When we are on the road to set up accidentally stumbled on money
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 BSOD.PW supports Verge (blake2s!) Welcome to the world of lucky mining! https://bsod.pwEurope: -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://eu.bsod.pw:5610 -u YOURWALLETADDRESS.rigname -p c=XVG North America: -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://us.bsod.pw:5610 -u YOURWALLETADDRESS.rigname -p c=XVG Asia: -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://asia.bsod.pw:5610 -u YOURWALLETADDRESS.rigname -p c=XVG Be wise. Make profit. Your bsod.pw team. |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! |
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May 24, 2018, 07:37:07 PM |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin?  |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people... Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar? |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people... Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar? No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho... |
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May 24, 2018, 09:19:18 PM |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people... Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar? No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho... And i think the from you so called creator pumped 650 Million Dollar in the coin to give it its today value? And what did they do to make one of the biggest industries in the world to choose XVG as partner? And please, dont tell me the shit about porncoin or something like that. If you guys still dont understand this deal and its consequences, not only for verge, but for crypto, noone can help you anymore. Why is Myriadcoin a coin that is completely insignificant... Is it because they made everything right? |
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May 24, 2018, 09:29:12 PM |
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BTC: 13xhPuVUQRczkxdX6F9FBYREdemBMn7UPx
BTCP: b1NyaHebmoD8oSJwLpCABe8XyPktkL3nJdE
LTC: LVhDnj23hgignWzEdqG78d5uasY5RDtnya
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May 24, 2018, 09:36:05 PM |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people... Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar? No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho... And i think the from you so called creator pumped 650 Million Dollar in the coin to give it its today value? And what did they do to make one of the biggest industries in the world to choose XVG as partner? And please, dont tell me the shit about porncoin or something like that. If you guys still dont understand this deal and its consequences, not only for verge, but for crypto, noone can help you anymore. Why is Myriadcoin a coin that is completely insignificant... Is it because they made everything right? There tons of garbage in top 20 or 50, because it's easier to control price when one or few entities control large proportion of float, and there's lots of more quality stuff farther down for opposite reason. Only two that really matter at this point are bitcorn and morono, imo. |
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May 24, 2018, 09:49:33 PM |
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have to admit... -SNIP-
You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself! Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin... What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people... Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar? No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho... And i think the from you so called creator pumped 650 Million Dollar in the coin to give it its today value? And what did they do to make one of the biggest industries in the world to choose XVG as partner? And please, dont tell me the shit about porncoin or something like that. If you guys still dont understand this deal and its consequences, not only for verge, but for crypto, noone can help you anymore. Why is Myriadcoin a coin that is completely insignificant... Is it because they made everything right? There tons of garbage in top 20 or 50, because it's easier to control price when one or few entities control large proportion of float, and there's lots of more quality stuff farther down for opposite reason. Only two that really matter at this point are bitcorn and morono, imo. I agree, that there is a lot of garbage. I do not agree that XVG belong to that. There is even some garbage in the top 5 (BCH for example). Definitely, XVG made faults. And this faults would have been avoidable. But this does not mean, that this is a shitcoin. And they must have done some things right, otherwise they would not be where they are right now. |
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May 25, 2018, 01:26:26 AM |
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!
Verge community needs to accept that despite the pumps the wider crypto community has very little respect for XVG, and that means many attackers would love to pin the verge scalp on their hacking belt. The coin can continue for a while longer pulling in newbies with less tech understanding, but verge will never be respected by crypto insiders, and it's those insiders who will continue targeting verge for more attacks. Just accept it, get stronger, or exit while you can. |
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May 25, 2018, 05:38:57 AM |
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!
Verge community needs to accept that despite the pumps the wider crypto community has very little respect for XVG, and that means many attackers would love to pin the verge scalp on their hacking belt. The coin can continue for a while longer pulling in newbies with less tech understanding, but verge will never be respected by crypto insiders, and it's those insiders who will continue targeting verge for more attacks. Just accept it, get stronger, or exit while you can. If the crypto community would be so bad, i would not like to be a part of it. I dont think that the attackers should be seen as a part of it. They damage the whole crypto community, not only verge. Because they dont want to be part of a community. They only want to fill their bags... |
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May 25, 2018, 06:19:58 AM |
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When xvg 10k again?
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May 25, 2018, 07:10:24 AM |
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No software program or project is ever 100% secure. Even the best of the best cryptocurrency projects have bug bounty programs where they encourage the software community to attempt to find security vulnerabilities in their code in a bid to make them more secure. And when one such vulnerability is found, the creators usually offer a patch to the software as the Verge (XVG) team is doing, and also give a reward to whomever found the vulnerability in the code.
XVG recovering the price and soon recover our losses. Developers are actively working.
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May 25, 2018, 07:53:55 AM |
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!
After this storm we can see a big blue sky and everything will be smooth and interesting. That's a good chance to get more cheap coins and hold it for a while . I used to get a big profit with this news 3 months ago and now maybe it will return again. This is good opportunity to invest more as it has affected the price, but it is not good overall.Just as we were getting back the trust in general, this kind of thing happens again and we are back to ground zero.This should be sorted and avoided in future if XVG wants to go somewhere. |
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May 25, 2018, 09:53:10 AM |
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No software program or project is ever 100% secure. Even the best of the best cryptocurrency projects have bug bounty programs where they encourage the software community to attempt to find security vulnerabilities in their code in a bid to make them more secure. And when one such vulnerability is found, the creators usually offer a patch to the software as the Verge (XVG) team is doing, and also give a reward to whomever found the vulnerability in the code.
XVG recovering the price and soon recover our losses. Developers are actively working.
Are you sure they are actively working? On gifthub the patch is locked for comments and even people that found new weaknesses can't post it. Nothing has changed in the path, it seems still the same way vulnerable. Seems we are going to wait for TimeSpoofAttack V3.0 . What a joke and you call this Devs actively working? |
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No software program or project is ever 100% secure. Even the best of the best cryptocurrency projects have bug bounty programs where they encourage the software community to attempt to find security vulnerabilities in their code in a bid to make them more secure. And when one such vulnerability is found, the creators usually offer a patch to the software as the Verge (XVG) team is doing, and also give a reward to whomever found the vulnerability in the code.
XVG recovering the price and soon recover our losses. Developers are actively working.
Are you sure they are actively working? On gifthub the patch is locked for comments and even people that found new weaknesses can't post it. Nothing has changed in the path, it seems still the same way vulnerable. Seems we are going to wait for TimeSpoofAttack V3.0 . What a joke and you call this Devs actively working? If you can not believe this coin then you can buy or join another coins , Bitcoin or Ethereum or any coins had ever a big issue or hacking but why they have grown and kept going to the sky and many investors still buy and hold them . The fact is that Dev always does his best to make it safer and better for the investors and users . |
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