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March 15, 2013, 03:27:21 AM
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One little advice to TBZ: If you can't handle the chance of being scammed on the amount of $125 you better stop now with your little BTC selling business.


I think its the principle of it and not the dollar amount.

I felt bad because I was going to post something on his thread that he could be doing a "man in the middle" scam after I turned down his trade, but I ran out of time and had to go to work

I think he misrepresented this trade by not disclosing he was using another "3rd party" ontop of the 3rd party he already disclosed

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March 15, 2013, 03:29:07 AM
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You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM.


Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that?

We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"?

Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens.
Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business.

Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please.

Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else.

He beat me to it by minutes, because he'd made the accusation in the first place to warn me. Stop sticking your foot in your mouth.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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March 15, 2013, 03:37:19 AM
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So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to?
Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them.
Think about that...

BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to?
Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth...


Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens.
Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business.

Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please.

Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else.

He beat me to it by minutes, because he'd made the accusation in the first place to warn me. Stop sticking your foot in your mouth.

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March 15, 2013, 04:06:24 AM
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So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to?
Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them.
Think about that...

BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to?
Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth...

I help other people fight scams, other people help me fight scams. psy: "OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLINGPEOPLEARELOOKINGOUTFOREACHOTHER"

BTW, oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike.

It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted, which was not "screaming scam".

In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious, but not absolutely fucking certain that he was a scammer, otherwise I'd have just said scammer flat out.

The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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March 15, 2013, 04:09:39 AM
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So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to?
Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them.
Think about that...

BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to?
Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth...

Oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike.

It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted, which was not "screaming scam".

In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious.

The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack

Go back to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626556#msg1626556

This is starting to look like a circle...

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March 15, 2013, 04:11:27 AM
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So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to?
Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them.
Think about that...

BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to?
Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth...

Oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike.

It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted, which was not "screaming scam".

In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious.

The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack

Go back to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626556#msg1626556

This is starting to look like a circle...

And this is you:


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March 15, 2013, 04:17:26 AM
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psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways?

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March 15, 2013, 04:23:48 AM
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You have no balls to be running such a business, that much is clear.

So, when I accused you of having no balls to run the business you say it wasn't you who screamed scam, but when I'accused you of having no balls to post your scam accusations yourself your excuse was the OP beat you by minutes when he posted this thread, so you would also post a thread to Scam Accusations, right?
Do I really need to continue? Or are you THAT stupid?
You sure you wish to continue down this path?
Dumbass...

psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways?

No, I'm just someone who still has a working brain.
If they were trying to shed light on the issue they would contact the alleged scammer and all other interested parties and shed that light before posting a scam accusation and show everybody the dumbasses they are.
Now that they posted, it is public and I can butt my nose in it all I want. Just like you're butting your nose. Should I also ask you if you have a relation with the OP or with TBZ or what? Because it seems to me you're really intent in defending them... Why are you butting your nose in anyways?

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March 15, 2013, 05:38:48 AM
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psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways?
This is very suspicious but it is possible that paysafecardbitcoin did provide the services and just wants to cash it out directly to bitcoin?

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March 15, 2013, 06:08:34 AM
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psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways?
This is very suspicious but it is possible that paysafecardbitcoin did provide the services and just wants to cash it out directly to bitcoin?

He said he wasn't able to provide the hacker services to help the lady track down her scammer. The only service he provided is in this scheme as far as I can tell, working backward:
"the guy" needs to provide services to the woman<paysafecardbitcoin pays "the guy" minus "15$" commission(?)<paysafecardbitcoin receives BTC from TheButterZone<TheButterZone sends BTC to paysafecardbitcoin<TheButterZone receives WU<the woman sends WU to TheButterZone<the woman is given TheButterZone's name and city by "the guy"<"the guy" is given TheButterZone's name and city by paysafecardbitcoin<paysafecardbitcoin is given TheButterZone's name and city by TheButterZone<"the guy" asks for money from paysafecardbitcoin<"the guy" communicates to the woman that he will provide "hacking servces" to find her previous scammer

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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