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January 16, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
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I could easily disappear and continue working behind the scenes, but I don't think that's what I ever wanted, and it's not what anyone else deserves.

This seems to be more about the bolded part of your statement more than anything else.  It's fine if you don't want to be an invisible player who works behind the scenes, but that's about your own wants and I don't think you should try to dress it up in terms of what the community "deserves". 

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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January 16, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
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Self reflection, self insight, and  a willingness to change is a good starting point, some people never get there.
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January 16, 2013, 10:17:27 PM
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I could easily disappear and continue working behind the scenes, but I don't think that's what I ever wanted, and it's not what anyone else deserves.

This seems to be more about the bolded part of your statement more than anything else.  It's fine if you don't want to be an invisible player who works behind the scenes, but that's about your own wants and I don't think you should try to dress it up in terms of what the community "deserves". 

The intended meaning was that no one deserves to have their problems ignored by the person who caused them, and that the proper response isn't to simply change identities/go underground, rinse and repeat, but rather to stay above ground, find resolution, and then decide what to do with oneself once all has been handled.

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January 16, 2013, 10:35:51 PM
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It is good that you acknowledge your mistakes and stop running away but it will be a long process until you regain the respect of the community. That said, I definitely think that you can still contribute in a positive way and I'm the last to deny somebody another chance.

For what it's worth: welcome back!

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January 16, 2013, 10:44:05 PM
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Unless you pay your debts, you are not welcome here.

You are a lying, scamming sack of shit and you make me sick.

Fuck off and don't come back.
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January 16, 2013, 11:17:43 PM
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Well, I've e-mailed you.

Trying to put things right is better than running away.

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January 17, 2013, 01:59:36 AM
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welcome back  Smiley

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January 17, 2013, 02:30:07 AM
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I guess from one troll to another  - welcome back  will I don't know about coming back but ya ....  Shocked


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January 17, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
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Matthew, I had a pretty good sense of what you were trying to achieve with your last "wager", but I also anticipated the community's reaction to it. I'm glad to see you're trying to make things right and I think theymos made a good suggestion:

You should contact all of the people you owe money and renegotiate your debt with them. A lot of people would probably be willing to forgive your debt entirely or take only a small percentage.

Personally, your scammer tag wouldn't influence me at all in any possible future business you and I might have, but having it removed would at least eliminate the need to explain it every time you posted in a new thread.

Still around.
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January 17, 2013, 09:14:14 PM
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Ok I think Matthew should just focus on new business and try to win us over that way. I want to see what else he can do, he obvious has some good visions. Everyone deserves another chance if they really want it, and he sounds it.

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January 17, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
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Ok I think Matthew should just focus on new business and try to win us over that way. I want to see what else he can do, he obvious has some good visions. Everyone deserves another chance if they really want it, and he sounds it.

He definitely deserves another chance as long as he pays people off.

Matthew, I had a pretty good sense of what you were trying to achieve with your last "wager",

What he was trying to achieve was make a great deal of money at no risk to himself.
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January 17, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
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Your only way of getting things right is by your words and deeds, not with money. Stick around, talk, help out, and show people you've changed (or that you haven't). I don't think "buying" your reputation back is right.
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January 17, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
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I just want to state that ANYONE who receives money from Matthew from this, I will consider as either an idiot, or a scumbag. An idiot, because you put your money into something as stupid as Pirate or this bet without taking responsibility for your own stupid financial decisions
Or a scumbag because you could easily claim that you made such a bet without proof, and are just trying to steal money from this naive fool

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January 17, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
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I just want to state that ANYONE who receives money from Matthew from this, I will consider as either an idiot, or a scumbag. An idiot, because you put your money into something as stupid as Pirate or this bet without taking responsibility for your own stupid financial decisions
Or a scumbag because you could easily claim that you made such a bet without proof, and are just trying to steal money from this naive fool

I hear your sentiments, but one of the lessons I learned in all of this is that this community is one obsessed with money (no kidding!) and that when you make a mistake financially, you have to rectify it financially. Some people might take a few bitcoins from me just to give them right back as a test of my intentions. Some might use the opportunity to make a quick buck, whom would otherwise not have paid at all. That's not for me to discern at the moment though, my task at hand is just making sure that I make amends so that I can continue living in a world where actions have consequences. It's an issue of mental health if nothing else. I have to stand up for myself when I am being abused, but also against myself when I have abused others.

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January 17, 2013, 10:06:53 PM
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I hear your sentiments, but one of the lessons I learned in all of this is that this community is one obsessed with money (no kidding!) and that when you make a mistake financially, you have to rectify it financially. Some people might take a few bitcoins from me just to give them right back as a test of my intentions. Some might use the opportunity to make a quick buck, whom would otherwise not have paid at all. That's not for me to discern at the moment though, my task at hand is just making sure that I make amends so that I can continue living in a world where actions have consequences. It's an issue of mental health if nothing else. I have to stand up for myself when I am being abused, but also against myself when I have abused others.

How much if your financial situation worth to you, compared to your reputation on some forum? I.e. will paying back some people make your real life more difficult for you? I'm not sure that those who would receive money from you would really NEED it.

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January 17, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
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Don't you still have the list of everyone you made the bet with?
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January 17, 2013, 10:55:44 PM
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Don't you still have the list of everyone you made the bet with?

I do, but not everyone had contact information (you realize some people were making the bet with intentions to scam me), hence the thread. I am beginning to talk to people about what I can do to make things right.

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January 17, 2013, 11:01:40 PM
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I just want to state that ANYONE who receives money from Matthew from this, I will consider as either an idiot, or a scumbag. An idiot, because you put your money into something as stupid as Pirate or this bet without taking responsibility for your own stupid financial decisions
Or a scumbag because you could easily claim that you made such a bet without proof, and are just trying to steal money from this naive fool

Don't worry he won't pay anyone back thus you won't have to poutrage. 
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January 17, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
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I'll just say that I consider the issue resolved between Matthew and I, but if he does offer monetary retribution to some, he should offer the same retribution to all at the same percentage.
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January 17, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
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I'm not sure what could be done, I'm still paying off the debt I incurred because of pirate and I made the bet so I could break even...

As SgtSpike said,
if he does offer monetary retribution to some, he should offer the same retribution to all at the same percentage.

And anything is better than nothing considering I'm still over 3k BTC down

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