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January 18, 2013, 01:11:56 AM
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OMFG JFC STFU already, six pages of this garbage, in addition to the pages strewn through the other threads.

I swear, if I were a mod, I would delete every new post concerning this topic.  It's been beat to death and back ten times over.

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January 18, 2013, 01:24:28 AM
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I swear, if I were a mod, I would delete every new post concerning this topic.
If I were a mod I would ban people like you and your buddy clowns that are cluttering this thread with shitty images, so that nobody can read anything useful.

Bitcoin/$ price rise after I have published this thread proves what needs to be proved!
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January 18, 2013, 01:38:50 AM
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Kirk to Enterprise. What's the current conversion rate for Federation Credits to German Mark?
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January 18, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
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OMFG JFC STFU already, six pages of this garbage, in addition to the pages strewn through the other threads.

At least we can hope that all dead-horse beating moves to this thread. Then we can simply ignore this thread.
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January 18, 2013, 01:52:54 AM
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Bitcoin/$ price rise after I have published this thread proves what needs to be proved!

Why do you say that?
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January 18, 2013, 01:57:58 AM
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Kirk to Enterprise. What's the current conversion rate for Federation Credits to German Mark?


Hogan: We've received a transmission from the future from someone named Kirk about some internet douche being, well a douche. He asks us what we would do.
Schultz: What do you mean, from the future and what's an internet? Hells Bells on a ice cream stick, did you say douche???  Kommandant Klink will NOT be happy! I know nuuuuuuuuthinzs!


When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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January 18, 2013, 04:08:12 AM
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BFL's stance:
BFL' stance is different from MY stance. I'm right. They are wrong.

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You should tell them to release their ASICs right now. They'll have to comply in order to none wrong.
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January 18, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
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I swear, if I were a mod, I would delete every new post concerning this topic.
If I were a mod I would ban people like you and your buddy clowns that are cluttering this thread with shitty images, so that nobody can read anything useful.

Bitcoin/$ price rise after I have published this thread proves what needs to be proved!


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Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be
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January 18, 2013, 05:04:09 AM
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"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole."  -Raylan Givens
Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be
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January 18, 2013, 05:22:18 AM
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I swear, if I were a mod, I would delete every new post concerning this topic.
If I were a mod I would ban people like you and your buddy clowns that are cluttering this thread with shitty images, so that nobody can read anything useful.

Bitcoin/$ price rise after I have published this thread proves what needs to be proved!



Take THAT ya douche!

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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January 18, 2013, 07:05:37 AM
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I swear, if I were a mod, I would delete every new post concerning this topic.
If I were a mod I would ban people like you and your buddy clowns that are cluttering this thread with shitty images, so that nobody can read anything useful.

Bitcoin/$ price rise after I have published this thread proves what needs to be proved!



Take THAT ya douche!



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January 18, 2013, 07:27:13 AM
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OK, let me summarize: I open a business in a country that is printing money like crazy, force my customers to pay in BTC as the only payment method and fail to deliver. Great.

Hello everybody,

I've developed a low power high performance mining rig. You get 100GH/s with only 50W of power. The shipment will start on Feb 4. 2013. Full refund in ARS guaranteed if I fail to deliver within the next 3 months. As my business is in argentina the price is 5000 ARS. At the moment I will only accept payments in BTC at the spot price. Pre-orders are welcome. First in the queue - first served!
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January 18, 2013, 08:19:07 AM
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OK, let me summarize: I open a business in a country that is printing money like crazy, force my customers to pay in BTC as the only payment method and fail to deliver. Great.
Thanks for your support, mezzomix. I'm also astonished by the sheer stupidity of so many people on the these forums. There isn't much I can do! Sheep deserve their destiny.
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January 18, 2013, 08:40:32 AM
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I can't believe how stupid some people are. How many times does it have to be explained to you? You paid int BTC it was converted into USD. So stop being so fucking stupid
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January 18, 2013, 08:45:29 AM
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You paid int BTC it was converted into USD.
I paid BTC. Who converted them into $?
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January 18, 2013, 09:48:42 AM
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You paid int BTC it was converted into USD.
I paid BTC. Who converted them into $?
That's been explained in great detail on the first page of this thread.
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January 18, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
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You paid int BTC it was converted into USD.
I paid BTC. Who converted them into $?


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January 18, 2013, 10:12:39 AM
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Sorry for my bad english Wink
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January 18, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
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Legal tender laws in the US = private debt can always be settled in USD.
Of course, they CAN! However, their debt is denominated in bitcoins, not in dollars! I gave them bitcoins, not dollars! They MUST settle this debt AT CURRENT bitcoin/$ rate, not at the rate that was months ago!

Unfortunately no, you're wrong, and there is a good reason why you're wrong.
1) the law says otherwise, they can always pay you back in USD. It's public tender for ALL debts, public and private.
2) If you paid in cows and the cows died, they obviously couldn't pay you back with the same cows, and any replacement cows would be subjective as to if they were exactly equivalent in all their 'cowness'. So instead they have to pay you back in what the cows were worth at the time of the transaction in USD. Since no one could have known at the time of the transaction the value of a cow today, you can't ask for the value of the cow today, only of the value of the cow then, since that is when the value was known by all parties.

Sorry you can't be ballin' with your BTC at today's prices but that's how the cookie crumbles. If you wanted to be safe from dramatic exchange rate flux, you should have paid directly in USD. Being that USD to USD is worth the same today as it was months ago.

Better luck next time.

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January 18, 2013, 11:49:18 AM
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1) the law says otherwise,
Really? Where? Where does the law say that you can repay a 1000 dollar debt with a 10 dollar bill?


1)2) If you paid in cows and the cows died, they obviously couldn't pay you back with the same cows, and any replacement cows would be subjective as to if they were exactly equivalent in all their 'cowness'.
Of course! The replacement cows are subjective as to the CURRENT cow/$ rate, not subjective to the THEN cow/$ when debt was made. If you can't see the difference, nobody can help you because you just don't want to see it.
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