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January 20, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136978.0

There seems to be consensus that this is a good idea.
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January 21, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136978.0

There seems to be consensus that this is a good idea.
I think so.  It would certainly make it easier to watch topics of interest related to alternative clients.  There does not appear to be  a consensus on when an alternative client deserves its own child forum, but that can probably be worked out incrementally.
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January 21, 2013, 10:40:11 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136978.0

There seems to be consensus that this is a good idea.
I think so.  It would certainly make it easier to watch topics of interest related to alternative clients.  There does not appear to be  a consensus on when an alternative client deserves its own child forum, but that can probably be worked out incrementally.


I could see MultiBit and Electrum deserving their own at least, since they seem to be the biggest alternative clients. Making subforums for them (with the official topics stickied in there) would help speed up the tech support process too, IMO.
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January 22, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
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Maybe it should be:

    Development & Technical Discussion
        Electrum
        MultiBit
        ...
        Other alternative clients

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January 22, 2013, 10:51:12 AM
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Maybe it should be:

    Development & Technical Discussion
        Electrum
        MultiBit
        ...
        Other alternative clients

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I think that the root Development & Technical Discussion should be for general protocol discussions.

We should have a sub-forum for Bitcoin-QT, BitcoinJ, cBitcoin, etc...
As well as Electrum, MultiBit, etc...

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January 22, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
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MultiBit, Electrum, Armory, Android Bitcoin Wallet (the schildbach wallet) would make sense.

Is there a limit to the nesting? Having an alternative clients category as a catchall for everything else makes sense to me.
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January 22, 2013, 04:37:41 PM
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I think that the root Development & Technical Discussion should be for general protocol discussions.

MultiBit, Electrum, Armory, Android Bitcoin Wallet (the schildbach wallet) would make sense.

Is there a limit to the nesting? Having an alternative clients category as a catchall for everything else makes sense to me.

Would it make sense to have an 'Alternative Clients' forum under the main 'Bitcoin' forum, with sub-categories for individual clients as deemed necessary?  I only raise this as the topic threads for alternative clients might not necessarily be development and technical discussions.

In other words, I'm advocating promoting the existing 'Alternative Clients' category out from under where it is and making it a top-level category, then adding children for individual clients that merit it.

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January 23, 2013, 04:09:52 AM
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I think Dev&Tech == generic technical discussion, then sub-forums for discussion of development of the popular clients makes sense (including 'Reference Client (Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind)' ).  And a catch-all for any not-yet-popular (or used-to-be-popular) clients.

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January 23, 2013, 05:04:09 AM
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MultiBit, Electrum, Armory, Android Bitcoin Wallet (the schildbach wallet) would make sense.

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January 23, 2013, 06:50:17 AM
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Could I make a recommendation that each forum have a sticky or tag that indicates it is a "Full-Chain [FC] client" or "Header-Only [HO] client" or "Server-Trusting [ST] client" if this is done? I don't know if they need specific forums for types of clients, but it might be handy for explaining the differences to newbies if a sticky links to the page that explains the different types of clients.

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January 25, 2013, 11:29:03 AM
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So who can/will make this happen? There seems to be consensus.
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January 25, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
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I think I'll keep it like

Dev & Tech
    Alt clients
        Electrum
        ...

Because Bitcoin-Qt in some ways is the protocol currently. If Bitcoin-Qt was split from Dev & Tech, I think that too many important protocol-related topics would end up in Bitcoin-Qt.

Since other client lists are usually in alphabetical order, I'll do it in reverse alphabetical order to mix things up...

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January 25, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
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Android Bitcoin Wallet (the schildbach wallet)

I don't see many topics specifically about this client.

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January 25, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
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I think I'll keep it like

Dev & Tech
    Alt clients
        Electrum
        ...

Because Bitcoin-Qt in some ways is the protocol currently. If Bitcoin-Qt was split from Dev & Tech, I think that too many important protocol-related topics would end up in Bitcoin-Qt.

Since other client lists are usually in alphabetical order, I'll do it in reverse alphabetical order to mix things up...

I see the change has already been implemented. Very nice, very organized.
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January 25, 2013, 10:01:10 PM
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I would like to request a section for Blockchain.info. It would be good to have separate threads regarding the Android, iPhone and Web clients rather than being stuck in one monolithic thread.

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January 25, 2013, 10:12:13 PM
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for some reason, the two main Electrum threads have not been moved to the Electrum board
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50936
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100502.0;topicseen

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January 26, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
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I don't think "are there many threads" is a great metric to use because the old system was to put all posts related to a client into one thread. There's only one thread for MultiBit too ...
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January 26, 2013, 07:50:12 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2013, 08:12:14 PM by jim618
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Thanks for the change.
I feel less cramped already !

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edit: I have put in a link to the thin client security model in the 'Welcome' post for newbies. If a mod could make that post sticky I would appreciate it. (I don't seem to be able to).

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January 28, 2013, 10:21:47 AM
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I would like to request a "Bitcoin Wallet" subforum.

It's got 27.000 installs and grows about a hundred daily. This is just the numbers from the Google market, add to that several thousands that install via direct download or alternative markets like F-Droid.

It's built on free and open source.
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January 28, 2013, 12:00:23 PM
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@Andreas/ Goonie

Would it be clearer to have a subforum "Android Bitcoin Wallet" rather than "Bitcoin Wallet" as it is more specific ?

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January 28, 2013, 12:21:16 PM
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Would it be clearer to have a subforum "Android Bitcoin Wallet" rather than "Bitcoin Wallet" as it is more specific ?

Sure, I'd call it "Bitcoin Wallet (Android)" or "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" if you feel like that's more to the point.

Just one note: Bitcoin Wallet is available also for Blackberry BB10 and I feel it might be available for Windows Phone sooner or later. This is why I tend to avoid the Android mention, but its ok for now.
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January 28, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
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OK, I added a section for Bitcoin Wallet for Android.

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January 28, 2013, 05:40:04 PM
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OK, I added a section for Bitcoin Wallet for Android.

Thanks!
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January 28, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
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I think hanging them off of "Development & Technical Discussion" is a mistake. They should hang off of "Technical Support". Majority of posts there are mundane things that have relatively little to do with development of Bitcoin ecosystem.

To be honest I don't know how to solve it. Seems like "Technical Support" has some negative stigma attached, or maybe an answered post in "Development & Technical Discussion" became a sort of status symbol, or maybe both.

I believe etotheipi tried to have two Armory threads: one for significant announcements and one for the rest of post. Is there a way to generalize that idea to a whole slew of alternative clients and subforums?

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January 30, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
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here are 2 more Electrum threads that were not moved to the subforum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85475.20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103162.0

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