[Announcement] Avalon ASIC Batch #1 Ships

[Korbman]

Well, that's not so far fetched. Think about it this way...who would you rather believe, a truthful man who once told a lie or a lying man who once told the truth?

It's a lot easier to believe a person when they're up front and honest with you the entire time, even if what they end up saying at the end is a blatant lie. To listen to a deceptive man keep you in the dark, but then present you with the truth, is vastly more difficult to take seriously. That's why even with these latest images, there will still be huge shadows of doubt cast over the Avalon team.

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aside from those 2 points, i think most people are annoyed with the lack of information rather than misinformation.

Technically, a lie can be defined as anything that gives (or is meant to give) a false impression, whether through misinformation, confusion, changing topics, omission, etc. It's not necessarily about what words were spoken or unspoken, but rather the intentions of the person.

That said, I don't think I have anything to add to your list (nor have I looked). I was just trying to make a basic point  

I'm sure we'll all have our answers with the next couple weeks.

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[RoboCoder]

aside from those 2 points, i think most people are annoyed with the lack of information rather than misinformation.

And yet batch #1 sold out fast..  and batch #2 will also I will bet..

[kaerf]

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

can we infer that jeff's package has not left china, but bitsyncom still expects delivery around thursday? i guess it's possible. if thursday delivery, then jeff should have a tracking number by tomorrow at the latest.


EDIT: didn't yifu say he paid $400 to get it out of the country? if that's the case, then either he wasted his money or what he told you is incorrect, or he is withholding the tracking number.

[PuertoLibre]

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

can we infer that jeff's package has not left china, but bitsyncom still expects delivery around thursday? i guess it's possible. if thursday delivery, then jeff should have a tracking number by tomorrow at the latest.

I failed to ask Yifu the weight of each Avalon device. (To figure out why the paid so much for Jeffs delivery)

$400 is a pretty hefty sum of money. I suppose they must have paid extra to ensure extra quick delivery. The only way to know for sure is by posing the question to him.

Best guess, Chinas customs office is being a pain.

[rchapoteau]

2) they said they would give jeff a tracking number, but haven't done that. apparently, difficulty with shipping/customs is causing problems...i agree that failure to at least address this issue is a problem.

aside from those 2 points, i think most people are annoyed with the lack of information rather than misinformation.

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

 . . . what???  I've ordered several products straight from mainland China last year that I was able to track while it was still in China, and it came through DHL.  I can't be 100% sure when they issued me the tracking number in relation to when it cleared customs, but I know I had it before it came to America.  

On the flip side of that, I do remember the the tracking info didn't seem accurate until it did arrive in America.

Edit: As a side note, almost every time I have done it, it has taken about 2 weeks to get the product even with faster shipping.

[PuertoLibre]

 

Keep in mind that customs does not work outside at sea in some barge. Chinas customs are usually at ports within China.

If you could track down what kind of package it was (electronics?) and when you actually got a tracking number that may be useful information.

[SellingMyGPUs]

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

That is how it works when you use an HK forwarder...

[PuertoLibre]

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

That is how it works when you use an HK forwarder...

Perhaps that is the company they contracted to take care of the shipping paperwork. Customs broker of some kind or a Forwarder.

Might explain why they are sending shipment in clumps instead of FIFO.

[kano]

almost 70GH/s

Well again, as I said before, Xiangfu wrote the driver for cgminer.
When he was asking me about it, 2.10.4 was already available.

That output looks legit.

Weird that the date is indeed 24-Jan i.e. more than 6 days ago.

1359050115 = 24-Jan-2012 17:55:15 UTC

China timezone would be 2am or 3am (not 100% sure which - anyone can look it up)

Yes runtime is 503 seconds.

Hardware Errors = 7 means it's not perfect or it's got some form of overclocking that is already pushing the limit of the device ... or a minor bug somewhere in the driver/cgminer combo

They ran the test with GetWork and 1 difficulty shares - bad idea with ASIC Use Stratum and something like 8+ difficulty ...
(I use 8 difficulty on my 2.4GH/s )

29 Rejects means there must have been a block change (LP) ... and Network Blocks = 2 says yes there was 1 block change.

So 29 Rejects on a single LP sounds reasonable for ~60GH/s on GetWork

The numbers Elapsed, Total MH, MHS av, Difficulty Accepted, Accepted, Utility, Work Utility all calculate out to the right arena.

And lastly - yes that output matches: "java API summary"

[smracer]

So it ran for 503 seconds before it melted?

[xempew]

Ah, fantastic.

When is the re-up? The site isn't taking the next batch of orders yet.

We see no reason to hold your money while we ship the first batch of units, not to mention CNY.

We will take orders soon as we feel we have adequately taking care of streamlining shipping of the first batch.

any progress with streamlining shipping of the first batch yet?

[tbcoin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139960.0

[themaskedone]

http://puu.sh/1UyQ8

almost 70GH/s

Well again, as I said before, Xiangfu wrote the driver for cgminer.
When he was asking me about it, 2.10.4 was already available.

That output looks legit.

Weird that the date is indeed 24-Jan i.e. more than 6 days ago.

1359050115 = 24-Jan-2012 17:55:15 UTC

China timezone would be 2am or 3am (not 100% sure which - anyone can look it up)

Yes runtime is 503 seconds.

Hardware Errors = 7 means it's not perfect or it's got some form of overclocking that is already pushing the limit of the device ... or a minor bug somewhere in the driver/cgminer combo

They ran the test with GetWork and 1 difficulty shares - bad idea with ASIC Use Stratum and something like 8+ difficulty ...
(I use 8 difficulty on my 2.4GH/s )

29 Rejects means there must have been a block change (LP) ... and Network Blocks = 2 says yes there was 1 block change.

So 29 Rejects on a single LP sounds reasonable for ~60GH/s on GetWork

The numbers Elapsed, Total MH, MHS av, Difficulty Accepted, Accepted, Utility, Work Utility all calculate out to the right arena.

And lastly - yes that output matches: "java API summary"

2012 ? We are in 2013.

[cedivad]

almost 70GH/s

Well again, as I said before, Xiangfu wrote the driver for cgminer.
When he was asking me about it, 2.10.4 was already available.

That output looks legit.

Weird that the date is indeed 24-Jan i.e. more than 6 days ago.

1359050115 = 24-Jan-2012 17:55:15 UTC

China timezone would be 2am or 3am (not 100% sure which - anyone can look it up)

Yes runtime is 503 seconds.

Hardware Errors = 7 means it's not perfect or it's got some form of overclocking that is already pushing the limit of the device ... or a minor bug somewhere in the driver/cgminer combo

They ran the test with GetWork and 1 difficulty shares - bad idea with ASIC Use Stratum and something like 8+ difficulty ...
(I use 8 difficulty on my 2.4GH/s )

29 Rejects means there must have been a block change (LP) ... and Network Blocks = 2 says yes there was 1 block change.

So 29 Rejects on a single LP sounds reasonable for ~60GH/s on GetWork

The numbers Elapsed, Total MH, MHS av, Difficulty Accepted, Accepted, Utility, Work Utility all calculate out to the right arena.

And lastly - yes that output matches: "java API summary"

2012 ? We are in 2013.

TIME STAMP: 1359050115

DATE (M/D/Y @ h:m:s): 01 / 24 / 13 @ 11:55:15am EST

[DobZombie]

2012 ? We are in 2013.

[crazy_rabbit]

oh please BFL, save us from this misery!

[kano]

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2012 ? We are in 2013.

[loshia]

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2012 ? We are in 2013.

The openwrt trunk revision is 35097

https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/35097/

Changeset 35097
Timestamp:
    Jan 11, 2013 5:44:26 PM (3 weeks ago)



Which seems perfectly fine. Just after chips arrived from the factory about 4-7 of January

[YipYip]

2) they said they would give jeff a tracking number, but haven't done that. apparently, difficulty with shipping/customs is causing problems...i agree that failure to at least address this issue is a problem.

aside from those 2 points, i think most people are annoyed with the lack of information rather than misinformation.

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

Hey listen honey ..I promise I wont come in your mouth...

The cheque is in the mail...

You only get tracking numbers once you leave china.....

BlahBlahBlah.....what a crock

[server]

I just learned from Bitsyncom that tracking numbers aren't generated until they leave mainland China [i.e. Customs]. Then it is handed off to DHL which then generates the tracking number.

I experienced this several times before with packages (fpga's) from NGZ.

Package untraceable until arrival at DHL office in Europe.