EcuaMobi misusing his "TRUST" and bullying selective sellers

[Quickseller]

I figured that I would stop by in this thread to say that I don't disagree with the negative trust left for the OP.

The OP essentially admits to the fact that the Starbucks Gift Cards he is/was selling came from illegitimate sources. I really can't see how this could be any more clear to me.

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[james.lent]

Another one : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373026
Account seems to be hacked, but definitely involved in laundering.   -edit- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1266275.0

[anonymous22]

First ,Do you think by abusing the trust feedback , the admins will make you a mod or something because you are making yourself as "a bitcointalk cop" ?
This is pathetic dude stop kissing the admins asses to be a mod.

Second, it is not your fucking business and i am not obligated to prove you how i get those cards and you are now crying because i did not tell you the method i was getting those cards like a loser kid.
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You are a child and you sell stolen stuff, so I don't have sympathy for you and if you don't like that then you can fuck yourself.  It's true you don't have to prove how you got whatever it is you're selling, but making the assumption that a deep discount on giftcards means they're stolen...9 times out of 10 it's valid.  So go cry me a river somewhere else.

Dude, how do you know I am selling stolen stuff?
Man do not accuse anybody without a proof so JUST FUCK OFF.

[minifrij]

Dude, how do you know I am selling stolen stuff?
Man do not accuse anybody without a proof so JUST FUCK OFF.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't work here. It has been tried several times in the past and members have been scammed out of several BTC because of it. If you want your negative trust removed, rather than bitching about it here, prove that you are getting your cards from legitimate sources and I'm sure EcuaMobi and others will be happy to remove the trust.

[anonymous22]

Dude, how do you know I am selling stolen stuff?
Man do not accuse anybody without a proof so JUST FUCK OFF.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't work here. It has been tried several times in the past and members have been scammed out of several BTC because of it. If you want your negative trust removed, rather than bitching about it here, prove that you are getting your cards from legitimate sources and I'm sure EcuaMobi and others will be happy to remove the trust.

I am not bitching here. I already messaged Ognasty few hours ago and told him about everything,  proved everything although he may reply telling that I am legit, this guy and the other spiteful guys will not shut up or remove the negative feedback until they know how I was getting those cards. It is a sort of extortion which it is very obvious to anyone.

[minifrij]

this guy and the other spiteful guys will not shut up or remove the negative feedback until they know how I was getting those cards.

Yes, exactly. As I said previously, it must work this way to try and prevent others getting scammed by people with malicious intention.

It is a sort of extortion which it is very obvious to anyone.

It's not extortion; the people leaving the trust get nothing of personal gain out of this. Extortion would be "I'm going to tag you with negative trust until you give me a gift card for free".
What the people in the "hatesquad" are doing is essentially a blanket attack against those who sell illegally obtained gift cards. Granted this may not be completely effective, though there isn't much of a better way to go about it.

[anonymous22]

this guy and the other spiteful guys will not shut up or remove the negative feedback until they know how I was getting those cards.

Yes, exactly. As I said previously, it must work this way to try and prevent others getting scammed by people with malicious intention.

It is a sort of extortion which it is very obvious to anyone.

It's not extortion; the people leaving the trust get nothing of personal gain out of this. Extortion would be "I'm going to tag you with negative trust until you give me a gift card for free".
What the people in the "hatesquad" are doing is essentially a blanket attack against those who sell illegally obtained gift cards. Granted this may not be completely effective, though there isn't much of a better way to go about it.

I am totally agree with what you are doing guys and I wish i can help you after i prove that i am legit. I am trying to detect and fight scammers as well here believe me and I think you are accusing the wrong guy.

[EcuaMobi]

I am totally agree with what you are doing guys and I wish i can help you after i prove that i am legit. I am trying to detect and fight scammers as well here believe me and I think you are accusing the wrong guy.

I will be very happy to remove the negative feedback from your profile after Ognasty confirms you're obtaining all your 14+ kinds of cards legally.
And I'll be willing to join efforts with you to fight scammers in the future.

[mexxer-2]

Just putting it out here

Hi

I see the community thinks I am not doing the right thing selling cards so I have locked both the threads. Also, I have not sold a single card till now and im not going to reopen the thread. So please remove the negative feedback now.

Changed my feedback to neutral

[EcuaMobi]

Just putting it out here

Hi

I see the community thinks I am not doing the right thing selling cards so I have locked both the threads. Also, I have not sold a single card till now and im not going to reopen the thread. So please remove the negative feedback now.

Changed my feedback to neutral

I've just done the same under the condition he stops the selling of any gift card, groupon code or similar unless he previously proves to a trusted member the method is legal.


This reply doesn't deserve it's own post so I'm just editing this one.

Maybe you're his competition. Who knows

Sure! That's why I'm asking everyone to help stopping all illegal-GC sellers! Makes sense! 

Some people really can't understand why others would spend time and effort, receive retaliation feedback and even insults to try and stop untrustworthy users without just wanting to benefit themselves. A lot of users don't understand why others care about people getting scammed if they're not directly affected. They do everything just to benefit themselves without thinking on anybody else and they don't understand why others would act differently... It's really sad to be honest.

[mexicantarget]

Maybe you're his competition. Who knows

[anonymous22]

I dunno why OgNasty did not reply yet. I already messaged him.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I dunno why OgNasty did not reply yet. I already messaged him.

Just be patient, dude.  And my words were harsh but I have no power here, nor did I leave you any feedback.  And as minifrij said, this isn't the US Justice Department here, it's bitcointalk where hacked/cracked/carded shit abounds.  Strong suspicion is enough reason to leave negative trust.

[whywefight]

I dunno why OgNasty did not reply yet. I already messaged him.

Because in the other thread he said you didnt sent him am pm...

EDIT: well two posts below he said someone send something, hm.

[TECSHARE]

I agree wholeheartedly that the trust system is broken but I'm 100% down with nixxing gift card sales.

Good idea, collective punishment for all users who either buy or sell gift cards legitimate or not because some people are too stupid or corrupt to do it right. Just because you don't use these services and it is no skin off your back doesn't mean other people shouldn't be able to use these services, many of which are actually legitimate. Once this inquisition against banning things that are not against the rules starts it never stops. You just made this fact abundantly clear.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I apologize for voicing such an extreme opinion,  tecshare.  I should have realized gift card sales and the state of the trust system are sensitive subjects for you.

[TECSHARE]

I apologize for voicing such an extreme opinion,  tecshare.  I should have realized gift card sales and the state of the trust system are sensitive subjects for you.

Don't be such a child. This isn't about me and you know it, you just see these other jamokes taking pot shots at me and figure it is a lazy way to make a poor attempt at discrediting my point by making a personal attack. Don't be such a lemming. Use your brain and think about what I said instead of just attacking me like a little bitchy teenage girl because I offended you by criticizing your precious opinion based on your very extensive history trading here I am sure.

Bitcoin is an opportunity for people to have freedom to exchange without interference from others. What you are suggesting is taking that freedom away to protect idiots that will get robbed anyway, and to stop thieves who will commit crimes anyway. What is next? Where does it stop? Should we shut down the internet because crimes are committed upon it? Maybe we should ban cash because criminals use cash. FUCK WE SHOULD BAN BITCOIN BECAUSE CRIMINALS USE IT! This way no one will even have to use their brains to discriminate. It will be really easy, either you are for us or you are against us! No more confusion who the scammers are- it is everyone who doesn't follow "your way".

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I apologize for voicing such an extreme opinion,  tecshare.  I should have realized gift card sales and the state of the trust system are sensitive subjects for you.

Don't be such a child. This isn't about me and you know it, you just see these other jamokes taking pot shots at me and figure it is a lazy way to make a poor attempt at discrediting my point by making a personal attack. Don't be such a lemming. Use your brain and think about what I said instead of just attacking me like a little bitchy teenage girl because I offended you by criticizing your precious opinion based on your very extensive history trading here I am sure.

Bitcoin is an opportunity for people to have freedom to exchange without interference from others. What you are suggesting is taking that freedom away to protect idiots that will get robbed anyway, and to stop thieves who will commit crimes anyway. What is next? Where does it stop? Should we shut down the internet because crimes are committed upon it? Maybe we should ban cash because criminals use cash. FUCK WE SHOULD BAN BITCOIN BECAUSE CRIMINALS USE IT! This way no one will even have to use their brains to discriminate. It will be really easy, either you are for us or you are against us! No more confusion who the scammers are- it is everyone who doesn't follow "your way".

Tecshare I am not against you whether you believe it or not but you have a tendency to play the victim and I'm not victimizing you. 

No, none of those things should happen.  I'm just talking about this forum and allowing illegal things here.  I'd say most deeply discounted gc's are carded so it's no great loss to this forum if those sales get banned.  Same thing if scams were banned here.  We'll have to agree to disagree. 

[TECSHARE]

Tecshare I am not against you whether you believe it or not but you have a tendency to play the victim and I'm not victimizing you.  

No, none of those things should happen.  I'm just talking about this forum and allowing illegal things here.  I'd say most deeply discounted gc's are carded so it's no great loss to this forum if those sales get banned.  Same thing if scams were banned here.  We'll have to agree to disagree.  

And once again you can't resist making it personal. Back on topic...

Tell me please, in your perfect plan of banning only "deeply discounted" gift cards, exactly what will be the cut off discount in order to make the sale acceptable? 40%? 25%? 10%? Does this change for each retailer gift card or is this universal? Who makes these decisions? Who enforces them? What is stopping carders from selling gift cards at full price? You see how your "simple" solution is not so simple? This will just result in putting every gift card retailer at risk of harassment in order to stop people who will get robbed anyway from getting robbed temporarily and provide only a minor hassle to thieves. Sounds like a well thought out plan to me.

If you don't like having your poorly thought out ideas criticized I suggest you refrain from posting them in public.

[whywefight]

Tecshare I am not against you whether you believe it or not but you have a tendency to play the victim and I'm not victimizing you.  

No, none of those things should happen.  I'm just talking about this forum and allowing illegal things here.  I'd say most deeply discounted gc's are carded so it's no great loss to this forum if those sales get banned.  Same thing if scams were banned here.  We'll have to agree to disagree.  

And once again you can't resist making it personal. Back on topic...

Tell me please, in your perfect plan of banning only "deeply discounted" gift cards, exactly what will be the cut off discount in order to make the sale acceptable? 40%? 25%? 10%? Does this change for each retailer gift card or is this universal? Who makes these decisions? Who enforces them? What is stopping carders from selling gift cards at full price? You see how your "simple" solution is not so simple? This will just result in putting every gift card retailer at risk of harassment in order to stop people who will get robbed anyway from getting robbed temporarily and provide only a minor hassle to thieves. Sounds like a well thought out plan to me.

If you don't like having your poorly thought out ideas criticized I suggest you refrain from posting them in public.

Thos forum is private. Sellers can go elsewhere. Ofc administration can also tell us to stop. Easy thing. I know there a plenty of places where they are welcomed with open arms...