EcuaMobi misusing his "TRUST" and bullying selective sellers

[Zeke2345]

Believe they neg rep and then you have to prove you get the giftcards in a legit way. If they can not do that you see a army of neg reps all stating the same thing. Its really blackmail because they force people into a defensive stance all the well acting like people do not look into neg reps for influencing deals.
But this is all for the better of the community. Sweep aside the fact they are making names for themselves, building trust.

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[TECSHARE]

Thos forum is private. Sellers can go elsewhere. Ofc administration can also tell us to stop. Easy thing. I know there a plenty of places where they are welcomed with open arms...

 Yes, plenty of places...like...like... well they exist I know it!

Tell me, what part of your reply makes this a good idea? Its easy for people who don't ever buy or sell gift cards to just say ban it all because it doesn't effect them. Why would you give a shit if other legitimate users are limited? No skin off your back. Just slowly ban everything one by one until nothing is allowed FTW. Then there will be no crime on the internet!

I say we make a new rule that anyone who has never traded here should be banned from posting on the forum. After all it is a private forum and they can do what they want! Your logic is flawless.

[whywefight]

Yes, plenty of places...like...like... well they exist I know it!

Ever heard of google? Took me 10 seconds to find places in the clear web.

Tell me, what part of your reply makes this a good idea?

The part: "Sellers can go elsewhere"

Its easy for people who don't ever buy or sell gift cards to just say ban it all because it doesn't effect them.

I buy a lot of GCs, obviously not here. And not for discounts like 80%

Why would you give a shit if other legitimate users are limited?

All two of them??

No skin off your back. Just slowly ban everything one by one until nothing is allowed FTW.

A lot of stuff still is. open your eyes.

Then there will be no crime on the internet!

I dont care about the internet, i care about BTCT. Said this before.

I say we make a new rule that anyone who has never traded here should be banned from posting on the forum. After all it is a private forum and they can do what they want! Your logic is flawless.

Your logic has flaws. I dont need to do any trades to see what is right and wrong. I could also say anyone never configged a router via telnet should not be allowed to go online. Doesnt make sense right? Exactly like your statement.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Tecshare I am not against you whether you believe it or not but you have a tendency to play the victim and I'm not victimizing you.  

No, none of those things should happen.  I'm just talking about this forum and allowing illegal things here.  I'd say most deeply discounted gc's are carded so it's no great loss to this forum if those sales get banned.  Same thing if scams were banned here.  We'll have to agree to disagree.  

And once again you can't resist making it personal. Back on topic...

Tell me please, in your perfect plan of banning only "deeply discounted" gift cards, exactly what will be the cut off discount in order to make the sale acceptable? 40%? 25%? 10%? Does this change for each retailer gift card or is this universal? Who makes these decisions? Who enforces them? What is stopping carders from selling gift cards at full price? You see how your "simple" solution is not so simple? This will just result in putting every gift card retailer at risk of harassment in order to stop people who will get robbed anyway from getting robbed temporarily and provide only a minor hassle to thieves. Sounds like a well thought out plan to me.

If you don't like having your poorly thought out ideas criticized I suggest you refrain from posting them in public.

Love how my posts get deleted.  Take it personally if you want but don't PM me with bs.

I'm not proposing a cutoff.  I'm for banning all of them.  Sorry if you're unable to accept my position on that.  My opinion here carries no weight whatsoever, so it shouldn't matter to you or anyone else.

[TECSHARE]

Yes, plenty of places...like...like... well they exist I know it!

Ever heard of google? Took me 10 seconds to find places in the clear web.

Tell me, what part of your reply makes this a good idea?

The part: "Sellers can go elsewhere"

Its easy for people who don't ever buy or sell gift cards to just say ban it all because it doesn't effect them.

I buy a lot of GCs, obviously not here. And not for discounts like 80%

Why would you give a shit if other legitimate users are limited?

All two of them??

No skin off your back. Just slowly ban everything one by one until nothing is allowed FTW.

A lot of stuff still is. open your eyes.

Then there will be no crime on the internet!

I dont care about the internet, i care about BTCT. Said this before.

I say we make a new rule that anyone who has never traded here should be banned from posting on the forum. After all it is a private forum and they can do what they want! Your logic is flawless.

Your logic has flaws. I dont need to do any trades to see what is right and wrong. I could also say anyone never configged a router via telnet should not be allowed to go online. Doesnt make sense right? Exactly like your statement.

I am not sure you could get any further from anything that constitutes a valid argument. When you have no argument, just make shit up! Most people are too stupid to notice how full of shit you are anyway right?

There sure must be lots of places to trade freely elsewhere, because clearly you have no problems listing them. I am also willing to bet most of them require all kinds of personal information, restrictions, and other bullshit that would not constitute p2p trading.

The part: "Sellers can go elsewhere"

That is not a reasoning for your argument, that is just you repeating your previous statement. Saying they can go elsewhere does not demonstrate how this is a good thing for Bitcointalk.

I buy a lot of GCs, obviously not here. And not for discounts like 80%

Yes, because you are content trading elsewhere fuck everyone else who does right? BTW not all the gift cards sold here are at a 80% discount. Some are legitimate and reasonably discounted and come from things like mturk, contests, or affiliate ad programs, but fuck those people too right?

All two of them??

If you have no argument, oversimplify and just make shit up. Works wonders.

A lot of stuff still is. open your eyes.

Yeah... until it isn't. The list is shrinking daily. Not because the staff of the forum say so, but because self proclaimed dictators of the rules such as yourself decide so. There is always going to be some dumbshit vigilante that objects to everything, resulting in nothing being allowed eventually.

I dont care about the internet, i care about BTCT. Said this before.

If you think banning certain types of trading from Bitcointalk will even make a tiny dent in the fraud here you are even more retarded than I thought.

Your logic has flaws. I dont need to do any trades to see what is right and wrong. I could also say anyone never configged a router via telnet should not be allowed to go online. Doesnt make sense right? Exactly like your statement.

Actually I was being facetious in order to demonstrate how idiotic your reasoning for a blanket ban was. Thank you for confirming that you believe your own logic to have flaws.

Love how my posts get deleted.  Take it personally if you want but don't PM me with bs.

I'm not proposing a cutoff.  I'm for banning all of them.  Sorry if you're unable to accept my position on that.  My opinion here carries no weight whatsoever, so it shouldn't matter to you or anyone else.

I PMed you because your comments were off topic personal attacks and I thought it would be best to not shit up the thread by replying to it here. This is the reason coincidentally your comment was removed, because it was focused at me and not on the topic.

I am sorry you are unable to accept my position that your position is idiotic, which has nothing to do with your level of influence around here. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree right?

[whywefight]

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first i thought of replying:

"i wont reply to you anymore because i think you are a fucktard. if you cant google, not my problem."

but then i noticed it is too much fun to anoy you.

buy giftcards

If you intressted in selling some why you dont start at HF? Let me guess because you dont manage to sign up? Just because you dont find those sites doesnt mean they dont exists. if you need help, go and ask the nanny. google exists, go and use it.

Most people are too stupid to notice how full of shit you are anyway right?

techshare, techshare, techashre... how dare you are, didnt you also wrote in the same post

I PMed you because your comments were off topic personal attacks and I thought it would be best to not shit up the thread by replying to it here

If you have no argument, oversimplify and just make shit up. Works wonders.

i could ask you to list the legit ones but i guess you wont do so as i pissed you off before, right eh?

Not because the staff of the forum say so, but because self proclaimed dictators of the rules such as yourself decide so.

i like it how you bow before me, but there is no need for. did i mention i am a german? I just thought it would be usefull so you can play the nazi card again.

If you think banning certain types of trading from Bitcointalk will even make a tiny dent in the fraud here you are even more retarded than I thought.

how about thinking before posting? i just quick checked the DS, still looks better than 4 weeks ago. Nice how you own your self.

Stop screaming at you screen and maybe try to write like a normal human being would do. I know you will go on and put in some hard words, cause thats the only thing you can do when you are mad. bad boy...

i wont reply again to you as i think its not worth it, if you have something to say please fill out the report. we can work on your butthurt that angers you so much.

[TECSHARE]

^ These are the type of people deciding who gets to trade here and who doesn't. Think about that for a second people.
I think it is time I exclude Blazed from my trust list for adding these people. Sorry buddy, you are making some very poor choices.

BTW, you give yourself far too much credit. You are simply a fly feeding of the annoying shit in the middle of the room everyone refuses to clean up, but don't let me stop you from masturbating your ego even more while you judge everyone from your position of minuscule amounts of authority that you clearly can't handle.

[Lutpin]

I think it is time I exclude Blazed from my trust list for adding these people. Sorry buddy, you are making some very poor choices.

Blazed didn't even add whywefight. Sure, mexxer and I are on Blazeds trust list, and we both have whywefight on our downlist (which only makes him DT3 btw).
Go ahead, exclude me, if you think it's that bad. I want to see his feedbacks, he'll stay in my list.

[whywefight]

^ These are the type of people deciding who gets to trade here and who doesn't. Think about that for a second people.
I think it is time I exclude Blazed from my trust list for adding these people. Sorry buddy, you are making some very poor choices.

BTW, you give yourself far too much credit. You are simply a fly feeding of the annoying shit in the middle of the room everyone refuses to clean up, but don't let me stop you from masturbating your ego even more while you judge everyone from your position of minuscule amounts of authority that you clearly can't handle.

u mad bro? sure let scammers trade, sounds like a plan! JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, you might be a good trader but a lot of people just scamming others. maybe have a look in the scam accusations?

I dont give me any credit, you do. I would mastrubate while watching porn with one of those cracked brazzers accounts... oh wait... we took em down... too bad. I dont have any "authority" or "power". You just gave me some by taking a bow. Please stop that.

minuscule amounts of authority that you clearly can't handle.

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

[TECSHARE]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

[whywefight]

OH THE SHAME! The same of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion.

You are still butthurt but this time you dont write a 6000 words novel about it. good thing.

I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives

All propper researched and with a ref, you should have taken a closer look, also a way to resolve issues connected with them. oh you dont know how to resolve issues. my bad.

and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings.

my young padawan, i dont see a thread about me.

BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

it was okay around that time, it still is. like i said, it was cool when it worked the way you liked it, as soon as it changed you didnt like it. tz, tz, tz...

You think you are going to even slow down scammers?

proven, it does.

That is the real joke.

i hope you had a good laugh.

They return seconds later with a bought account

no worries, we catch those too.

while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily.

are we talking about you now or scammers? Wasnt it you who -ved because of his feelings got hurt?

You are driving out the good users

I dont see the "good" guys complaining.

while not even slowing down the scammers.

That is what you think, but actually not what is happening.

That is not what I call helpful.

You whining isnt helpfull. Why dont you come up with better ideas if you are so superior?

Ill read your next posts but wont reply until you have a better idea. Shouldnt be a problem for someone like you, eh?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you. 

[Zeke2345]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you. 

The part about things being handled out in the forum does not ring true for me. Had a account leave neutral trust about me being a yobit spammer.
If you want a rabbithole look into riseDARK, suddenly leaving comments about spammers after what looks like a defaulted loan with Whywefight.
No history of red comments till me and antirage who still wears the warning.
When dealing with people that transact in accounts you really can not tell where the damage is coming from. Thats your open forum!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you. 

The part about things being handled out in the forum does not ring true for me. Had a account leave neutral trust about me being a yobit spammer.
If you want a rabbithole look into riseDARK, suddenly leaving comments about spammers after what looks like a defaulted loan with Whywefight.
No history of red comments till me and antirage who still wears the warning.
When dealing with people that transact in accounts you really can not tell where the damage is coming from. Thats your open forum!

Ok I guess I speak for myself only.  I don't debate via PM anymore.  Reminds me of arguing on Youtube circa 2010. 

[whywefight]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you. 

The part about things being handled out in the forum does not ring true for me. Had a account leave neutral trust about me being a yobit spammer.
If you want a rabbithole look into riseDARK, suddenly leaving comments about spammers after what looks like a defaulted loan with Whywefight.
No history of red comments till me and antirage who still wears the warning.
When dealing with people that transact in accounts you really can not tell where the damage is coming from. Thats your open forum!

Maybe riseDARK couldnt post because i was holding his account, till i decided to release it so he can work his debt off. His account wasnt worth what he owes me and due you people wanted me to stop selling accounts from defaulted loans i did so to get my money back. As soon is i saw him asking for a loan i left a feedback for him.

You asked for it, you got it

[Zeke2345]

When discussions get troll like I have no issue settling a issue that got out of hand in pm. But I do understand where you are coming from.
Think Techshare is being discredited based on past experience and I think thats a weak way for people to gloss over his views. Thats just a comment in relation to the whole thread, not directed any which way.

[Zeke2345]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you. 

The part about things being handled out in the forum does not ring true for me. Had a account leave neutral trust about me being a yobit spammer.
If you want a rabbithole look into riseDARK, suddenly leaving comments about spammers after what looks like a defaulted loan with Whywefight.
No history of red comments till me and antirage who still wears the warning.
When dealing with people that transact in accounts you really can not tell where the damage is coming from. Thats your open forum!

Maybe riseDARK couldnt post because i was holding his account, till i decided to release it so he can work his debt off. His account wasnt worth what he owes me and due you people wanted me to stop selling accounts from defaulted loans i did so to get my money back. As soon is i saw him asking for a loan i left a feedback for him.

You asked for it, you got it

No. Unless you had the account in the last 72 hours, the neutral trust was yesterday. His reponse was last night and his loan request was today. Could not find any thread where you released him from his debt.
So he was doing you a favor or was it you?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

When discussions get troll like I have no issue settling a issue that got out of hand in pm. But I do understand where you are coming from.
Think Techshare is being discredited based on past experience and I think thats a weak way for people to gloss over his views. Thats just a comment in relation to the whole thread, not directed any which way.

I have an opinion which he doesn't like and there's no reason to take it to pm's.  There's no reason to troll my trust page, and that's close to what got him removed from DT in the first place.  It's current actions I'm basing my judgement on,  but the past can't be ignored totally.

You also make him out to be a victim and he's not.   He got booted out of the good old boys' club and he's still mad about that.

[whywefight]

Like you couldnt handle once upon a time?

OH THE SHAME! The shame of being removed from a broken system of nepotism over a single negative rating blown completely out of proportion. I am sure this is much worse than your pages of rapid fire negatives and dozens of complaint threads against you for your ratings. BTW, thanks for bringing that up. Now everyone can see how right I was in predicting the current state of affairs of the forum way back then.

You think you are going to even slow down scammers? That is the real joke. They return seconds later with a bought account while legitimate users get months or years of effort wasted when you neg the wrong person hastily. You are driving out the good users while not even slowing down the scammers. That is not what I call helpful.

And when I don't want to listen to your trolling you troll my trust page.  So go ahead and report this post like a whiny bitch but in case you haven't noticed we do things out in the open on bitcointalk.  I don't like pm's and thus I blocked you.  

The part about things being handled out in the forum does not ring true for me. Had a account leave neutral trust about me being a yobit spammer.
If you want a rabbithole look into riseDARK, suddenly leaving comments about spammers after what looks like a defaulted loan with Whywefight.
No history of red comments till me and antirage who still wears the warning.
When dealing with people that transact in accounts you really can not tell where the damage is coming from. Thats your open forum!

Maybe riseDARK couldnt post because i was holding his account, till i decided to release it so he can work his debt off. His account wasnt worth what he owes me and due you people wanted me to stop selling accounts from defaulted loans i did so to get my money back. As soon is i saw him asking for a loan i left a feedback for him.

You asked for it, you got it

No. Unless you had the account in the last 72 hours, the neutral trust was yesterday. His reponse was last night and his loan request was today. Could not find any thread where you released him from his debt.
So he was doing you a favor or was it you?

I had the account for months. Maybe you do some propper research and you will find a post from altcoinhosting that states so. riseDARK did some work for me in 2015. His debt is around this time. There is a thread with an overview about my loans... easy to spot. I added the feedback as soon as someone pinged me. If YOU want to pay his debt or have some work for him, let me know.

[Zeke2345]

When discussions get troll like I have no issue settling a issue that got out of hand in pm. But I do understand where you are coming from.
Think Techshare is being discredited based on past experience and I think thats a weak way for people to gloss over his views. Thats just a comment in relation to the whole thread, not directed any which way.

I have an opinion which he doesn't like and there's no reason to take it to pm's.  There's no reason to troll my trust page, and that's close to what got him removed from DT in the first place.  It's current actions I'm basing my judgement on,  but the past can't be ignored totally.

You also make him out to be a victim and he's not.   He got booted out of the good old boys' club and he's still mad about that.

What is going on between you two and your trust is bad, not endorsing that. Was just reading this thread looking at the attempts to discredit him in the same manner used on myself till they backed that aspect. I sold two giftcards which made what I had to say about giftcard sales a wash.
Its a smear campaign if you are not in line.

Hopefully the trust issue you two have can be sorted.