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I do trust Mexxer to some extent, but idk, if you wanna base your trust on finding spam then that's your choice.
I just find it odd, as I've said previously
I don't want to brag but have a look at my trust page first. As for me finding spam, others are way better at it than me, and I've never forced you to trust my feedbacks because of my report I do in the background, you always have the option to exclude me from your trust list Anyone can make an account and start busting scammers and spammers, and it looks like a lot more people are doing it now to be added to the default trust list. @whywefight I've always wanted to say this. Why not admit to everyone how you were fine with letting your bff Sawzall bump your thread with his alts whenever your thread got buried? (Account selling one) I have the screenshots from when I logged on to his Skype. The thing with swazall is a still ongoing thing and yes i let it happen for a reason. Most simply to get as many accounts linked together as possible. Due the information you get from the log, or not, you might have also noticed i bought an account from him. What you dont know i reported my self to grue after i got the feeling the acc was hacked, feel free to ask grue about it. besides the fact, i know he sells faked docs (i reported that thread) he is doing the acc gens (i reported those too) and i am still on him to link accounts together. well it seems that is spoiled now, doesnt matter. people might think i am wild -veing but actually i report threads in bulk, feel free to ask lauda about it. as one of my methods had some mistakes i am trying to get more solid proof to get those i report removed. If you want to go on with stuff i did that might fit into the schema, yes i also got some vouch copys. For a cracked acc, i used it to report it on the site it belongs to, some "methods" just to see what those sellers are dealing. In addition it is well known that i have several sockpuppets i use to get information from sellers they wont give me if i would use my main acc, you might like to ask hilariousandco. As you see the actions i do are not hidden, there are several people informed about what and how i do it, just for the case someone like you comes around. |
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February 25, 2016, 12:16:32 PM |
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I do trust Mexxer to some extent, but idk, if you wanna base your trust on finding spam then that's your choice.
I just find it odd, as I've said previously
I don't want to brag but have a look at my trust page first. As for me finding spam, others are way better at it than me, and I've never forced you to trust my feedbacks because of my report I do in the background, you always have the option to exclude me from your trust list Anyone can make an account and start busting scammers and spammers, and it looks like a lot more people are doing it now to be added to the default trust list. @whywefight I've always wanted to say this. Why not admit to everyone how you were fine with letting your bff Sawzall bump your thread with his alts whenever your thread got buried? (Account selling one) I have the screenshots from when I logged on to his Skype. The thing with swazall is a still ongoing thing and yes i let it happen for a reason. Most simply to get as many accounts linked together as possible. Due the information you get from the log, or not, you might have also noticed i bought an account from him. What you dont know i reported my self to grue after i got the feeling the acc was hacked, feel free to ask grue about it. besides the fact, i know he sells faked docs (i reported that thread) he is doing the acc gens (i reported those too) and i am still on him to link accounts together. well it seems that is spoiled now, doesnt matter. besides the fact that people think i am wild -veing i report threads in bulk, feel free to ask lauda about it. as one of my methods had some mistakes i am trying to get more solid proof to get those i report removed. If you want to go on with stuff i did that might fit into the schema, yes i also got some vouch copys. For a cracked acc, i used it to report it on the site it belong to, some "methods" just to see what those sellers are dealing. In addition it is well known that i have several sockpuppets i use to get information from sellers they wont give me if i would use my main acc, you might like to ask hilariousandco. As you see the actions i do are not hidden, there are several people informed about what and how i do it, just for the case someone like you comes around. okay well you should know he was the one who used luckypyrate and bigjon to attempt a scam. he's got many accounts somehow |
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whywefight
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February 25, 2016, 12:18:16 PM |
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I do trust Mexxer to some extent, but idk, if you wanna base your trust on finding spam then that's your choice.
I just find it odd, as I've said previously
I don't want to brag but have a look at my trust page first. As for me finding spam, others are way better at it than me, and I've never forced you to trust my feedbacks because of my report I do in the background, you always have the option to exclude me from your trust list Anyone can make an account and start busting scammers and spammers, and it looks like a lot more people are doing it now to be added to the default trust list. @whywefight I've always wanted to say this. Why not admit to everyone how you were fine with letting your bff Sawzall bump your thread with his alts whenever your thread got buried? (Account selling one) I have the screenshots from when I logged on to his Skype. The thing with swazall is a still ongoing thing and yes i let it happen for a reason. Most simply to get as many accounts linked together as possible. Due the information you get from the log, or not, you might have also noticed i bought an account from him. What you dont know i reported my self to grue after i got the feeling the acc was hacked, feel free to ask grue about it. besides the fact, i know he sells faked docs (i reported that thread) he is doing the acc gens (i reported those too) and i am still on him to link accounts together. well it seems that is spoiled now, doesnt matter. besides the fact that people think i am wild -veing i report threads in bulk, feel free to ask lauda about it. as one of my methods had some mistakes i am trying to get more solid proof to get those i report removed. If you want to go on with stuff i did that might fit into the schema, yes i also got some vouch copys. For a cracked acc, i used it to report it on the site it belong to, some "methods" just to see what those sellers are dealing. In addition it is well known that i have several sockpuppets i use to get information from sellers they wont give me if i would use my main acc, you might like to ask hilariousandco. As you see the actions i do are not hidden, there are several people informed about what and how i do it, just for the case someone like you comes around. okay well you should know he was the one who used luckypyrate and bigjon to attempt a scam. he's got many accounts somehow i am aware of that fact. sometimes you need to lay down with your enemies to get what you want. this might not be the best way but i promised people who i talked to about it to get solid proofs for future reports |
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February 25, 2016, 04:39:53 PM |
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a couple of random foreigner's...random foreigners...another random foreigner
Hey Miyagi, fuck you, you xenophobic 'foreign' cunt. Who Am I? I don't give a flying fuck who you think you are, but the rest of us know what you are. Wanker. |
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mexxer-2
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February 25, 2016, 05:19:18 PM |
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a couple of random foreigner's...random foreigners...another random foreigner
Hey Miyagi, fuck you, you xenophobic 'foreign' cunt. Who Am I? I don't give a flying fuck who you think you are, but the rest of us know what you are. Wanker. Well... thanks. Preetty QS of me to say this I guess, but I think I know this individual from the "patronizing shorena" and the weird English part |
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February 25, 2016, 07:49:42 PM |
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I am fairly certain that I know who the OP is and I don't think it is productive to make ad hominem attacks against the OP, as I would argue that he is probably one of the most trusted people around.
I would say that I agree that Mexxer-2 and Lutpin are strange choices for being in the Default Trust network. I would also say there is a high chance they are the same person.
I somewhat get the feeling that some people are trying to make a name for themselves as being a scam buster. They are doing this by stretching the definition of a scammer and leaving negative trust for people who probably do not have the drive nor motivation to defend their name/reputation, even though what they are accused of doing, even if true, is really not scamming.
I would note that a good number of the "Mexxer-2 and Lutpin" threads have resulted in no additional negative ratings being added to the accounts of those complaining, and in a decent number of instances the ratings have been removed. On the other hand, it was fairly rare that a rating that I left was inappropriate, and as a result very few ratings needed to be removed that I left and many of the "QS" threads resulted in additional people looking at the evidence and leaving additional ratings on those complaining.
Seconded.If your rating needs to be removed every alternate day then it only shows the low accuracy and how readily you leave a rating. Regardless of the alt's, it looks like Blazed is getting pampered a lot. |
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February 25, 2016, 07:55:17 PM |
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Seconded.If your rating needs to be removed every alternate day then it only shows the low accuracy and how readily you leave a rating.
Regardless of the alt's, it looks like Blazed is getting pampered a lot.
Well if you're talking about me, link me to 5 feedbacks(I expect at least one rating to be a mistake, I'm human after all) that I wrongfully appeared to have given , that I later removed under community pressure. Again, if you're talking about me, I've sent Blazed 3 PMs so far. 1st, to remove his rating for "Busting spam" as many were questioning that I did it solely for gaining feedbacks. 2nd, a recommendation of devthedev and Cyrus to the DT. 3rd, recently when he asked me to reply in this thread. |
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February 25, 2016, 08:12:51 PM |
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I am fairly certain that I know who the OP is and I don't think it is productive to make ad hominem attacks against the OP, as I would argue that he is probably one of the most trusted people around.
I would say that I agree that Mexxer-2 and Lutpin are strange choices for being in the Default Trust network. I would also say there is a high chance they are the same person.
I somewhat get the feeling that some people are trying to make a name for themselves as being a scam buster. They are doing this by stretching the definition of a scammer and leaving negative trust for people who probably do not have the drive nor motivation to defend their name/reputation, even though what they are accused of doing, even if true, is really not scamming.
I would note that a good number of the "Mexxer-2 and Lutpin" threads have resulted in no additional negative ratings being added to the accounts of those complaining, and in a decent number of instances the ratings have been removed. On the other hand, it was fairly rare that a rating that I left was inappropriate, and as a result very few ratings needed to be removed that I left and many of the "QS" threads resulted in additional people looking at the evidence and leaving additional ratings on those complaining.
I agree 100%, if you make your ratings without anything solid behind them, you will find yourself removing them ever so often, In a few days we will see him and luptin removing another one of their feedback from anonymous22's page, he already sent his method to someone trusted for review I don't know why Blazed added them though, they were good as Spam busters and just that, but now they are focusing their efforts at scam busting which is clearly not their field, I don't know why Blazed considers Spam busters to be good scam busters I also agree on the point that they (the hateleague) are just trying to make a name for themselves, I also agree that since lately some of their ratings need review, blazed probably needs to manually review these ratings |
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February 25, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
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Seconded.If your rating needs to be removed every alternate day then it only shows the low accuracy and how readily you leave a rating.
Regardless of the alt's, it looks like Blazed is getting pampered a lot.
Well if you're talking about me, link me to 5 feedbacks(I expect at least one rating to be a mistake, I'm human after all) that I wrongfully appeared to have given , that I later removed under community pressure. Again, if you're talking about me, I've sent Blazed 3 PMs so far. 1st, to remove his rating for "Busting spam" as many were questioning that I did it solely for gaining feedbacks. 2nd, a recommendation of devthedev and Cyrus to the DT. 3rd, recently when he asked me to reply in this thread. Mexxer, i trust you and all that ,will also go first with you for some amount of money regardless of DT.But i don't think this is going in a good direction. It's no joke & i cant agree to the (newbie)harassing,I cant bud, sorry. EDIT: I also think Blazed is simply risking his reputation or losing his respect in this drama. |
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shorena
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February 25, 2016, 08:57:20 PM |
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Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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Your Point Is Invalid
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February 25, 2016, 09:01:56 PM |
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Below are all users that have gotten a negative or positive ratings from mexxer-2. I skipped some neutral ratings. They are sorted by reason why the negative positive was left. - I am not sure about the ratings regarding gift cards. To be fair there is an open discussion about these. - I disagree with the positive ratings for "HateLeague" members at least with the current wording. I think the wording should be more clear and the name of the group removed. I wouldnt lose my mind over it though. - I agree with all other ratings. Will post something similar for lutpin later, last minute changes will be ignored (I already have the site cached): mexxer-2: Positive ratings for "HateLeague" members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396480https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289686I have a problem with those |
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February 25, 2016, 09:10:31 PM |
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anybody could do that,give me one day's time and i will dig 5 year old ponzi thread and tag the OP.The question the abuse. I agree they might be good,helping etc etc... but their opinions ,judgments should not be forced upon anyone and hence they should be UNTRUSTED. |
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February 25, 2016, 09:17:10 PM |
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anybody could do that,give me one day's time and i will dig 5 year old ponzi thread and tag the OP.The question the abuse. I agree they might be good,helping etc etc... but their opinions ,judgments should not be forced upon anyone and hence they should be UNTRUSTED. I agree with this and I would add that what you said is even more true in this bct culture that apparently breeds long term scammers. Ones that cultivate trust before scamming. If you can earn trust just by tagging scammers, that's the absolute easiest way of doing it. Should I trust someone just because he accurately does this? People still trust QS so I suppose it's to be expected around these parts but it's dumb practice. |
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shorena
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February 25, 2016, 09:26:48 PM |
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anybody could do that,give me one day's time and i will dig 5 year old ponzi thread and tag the OP. I see, so you didnt even bother to check the ratings. The question the abuse.
"Arguments" like these are the precise reason I did the above and will do more similar work later for lutpins ratings. What abuse? Dont use empty words, make a reference to something you consider abusive. I agree they might be good,helping etc etc... but their opinions ,judgments should not be forced upon anyone and hence they should be UNTRUSTED.
If good and helpful are no reason to trust their ratings I dont know what else you want. -snip-
I agree with this and I would add that what you said is even more true in this bct culture that apparently breeds long term scammers. Ones that cultivate trust before scamming. If you can earn trust just by tagging scammers, that's the absolute easiest way of doing it. Should I trust someone just because he accurately does this? People still trust QS so I suppose it's to be expected around these parts but it's dumb practice.
No one is asking you to trust them. I dont know whether I would trust either of them with 1 BTC, the question never occured and probably never will, their ratings a useful though. The long con argument is a killer argument, this is always possible. What makes you think that I dont just build my reputation? This is a risk we always have to take or never trust anyone. |
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February 25, 2016, 09:31:42 PM |
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@shorena the abuse is using their DT2 power to force people to do things to get the ratings removed
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February 25, 2016, 09:35:01 PM |
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I dont know what else you want.
Logic not judgment. something you consider abusive.
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February 25, 2016, 09:35:19 PM |
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I agree 100%, if you make your ratings without anything solid behind them, you will find yourself removing them ever so often, In a few days we will see him and luptin removing another one of their feedback from anonymous22's page, he already sent his method to someone trusted for review
Alright , you've got me in a loop. So while you're saying, I may be trust abusing by negging someone clearly suspicious, I also can't remove that rating if my suspicion was proved false by a solid proof and a confirmation from a DT 1 member, and if the latter happens I should be removed from DT. Also remember how many times the existing(been in DT for at least) DT "scam busters" have gulped down their suspicion and removed the neg, only after a community-wide request? Most of which generally gets ignored? I am offering the individual a chance to prove my and three other individuals' suspicion wrong, which I believe is a fair chance. - I disagree with the positive ratings for "HateLeague" members at least with the current wording. I think the wording should be more clear and the name of the group removed. I wouldnt lose my mind over it though.
Yeah, I'm thinking of putting whywefight's rating on neutral for the moment, from what I know he doesn't care either way. Seems no one is getting the joke at all, and are just going head over heels thinking of it as a team which negs anyone remotely suspicious. Which sounds cool and all, but not worth going over the trouble of replying to every stupid comment taking the joke seriously. anybody could do that,give me one day's time and i will dig 5 year old ponzi thread and tag the OP.The question the abuse.
Cool, tell you what, go and do so for around 5 months with no possibility of being added to DT, face 10s of pages of offensive message even when your ratings have no effect. I highly doubt you're going to do this just to prove a point and given your "Everything, scams, fraud , illegal stuff is cool. Government and the law is just nothing but someone trying to control you" attitude, I hardly believe you're going to tag even 10(of course you might now, just because this sounds like a challenge). I agree with this and I would add that what you said is even more true in this bct culture that apparently breeds long term scammers. Ones that cultivate trust before scamming. If you can earn trust just by tagging scammers, that's the absolute easiest way of doing it. Should I trust someone just because he accurately does this? People still trust QS so I suppose it's to be expected around these parts but it's dumb practice.
DT ain't = trustworthy, its an individual whose ratings you trust. I've probably repeated this many times, but you have the option to kick DT out of your trust list. (Not intended towards The Pharmacist)Also it fits my definition of ironical, don't know about you guys: --crap-- forgot what I was gonna even say Edit: judgments should not be forced upon anyone and hence they should be UNTRUSTED You should be going for the removal of DT system as a whole instead of targeting a specific individual |
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February 25, 2016, 09:38:31 PM |
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I agree 100%, if you make your ratings without anything solid behind them, you will find yourself removing them ever so often, In a few days we will see him and luptin removing another one of their feedback from anonymous22's page, he already sent his method to someone trusted for review
Alright , you've got me in a loop. So while you're saying, I may be trust abusing by negging someone clearly suspicious, I also can't remove that rating if my suspicion was proved false by a solid proof and a confirmation from a DT 1 member, and if the latter happens I should be removed from DT. Also remember how many times the existing(been in DT for at least) DT "scam busters" have gulped down their suspicion and removed the neg, only after a community-wide request? Most of which generally gets ignored? I am offering the individual a chance to prove my and three other individuals' suspicion wrong, which I believe is a fair chance. - I disagree with the positive ratings for "HateLeague" members at least with the current wording. I think the wording should be more clear and the name of the group removed. I wouldnt lose my mind over it though.
Yeah, I'm thinking of putting whywefight's rating on neutral for the moment, from what I know he doesn't care either way. Seems no one is getting the joke at all, and are just going head over heels thinking of it as a team which negs anyone remotely suspicious. Which sounds cool and all, but not worth going over the trouble of replying to every stupid comment taking the joke seriously. anybody could do that,give me one day's time and i will dig 5 year old ponzi thread and tag the OP.The question the abuse.
Cool, tell you what, go and do so for around 5 months with no possibility of being added to DT, face 10s of pages of offensive message even when your ratings have no effect. I highly doubt you're going to do this just to prove a point and given your "Everything, scams, fraud , illegal stuff is cool. Government and the law is just nothing but someone trying to control you" attitude, I hardly believe you're going to tag even 10(of course you might now, just because this sounds like a challenge). I agree with this and I would add that what you said is even more true in this bct culture that apparently breeds long term scammers. Ones that cultivate trust before scamming. If you can earn trust just by tagging scammers, that's the absolute easiest way of doing it. Should I trust someone just because he accurately does this? People still trust QS so I suppose it's to be expected around these parts but it's dumb practice.
DT ain't = trustworthy, its an individual whose ratings you trust. I've probably repeated this many times, but you have the option to kick DT out of your trust list. (Not intended towards The Pharmacist)Also it fits my definition of ironical, don't know about you guys: --crap-- forgot what I was gonna even say You can say all you want about how DT isnt trustworthy, the fact of the matter is that it is forced upon the forum's users and therefore should be regulated Also, you are not offering people choices, when their reputations are on the line you are forcing them |
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February 25, 2016, 09:43:48 PM |
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- I disagree with the positive ratings for "HateLeague" members at least with the current wording. I think the wording should be more clear and the name of the group removed. I wouldnt lose my mind over it though.
Yeah, I'm thinking of putting whywefight's rating on neutral for the moment, from what I know he doesn't care either way. Seems no one is getting the joke at all, and are just going head over heels thinking of it as a team which negs anyone remotely suspicious. Which sounds cool and all, but not worth going over the trouble of replying to every stupid comment taking the joke seriously. It makes me smile, nothing more and nothing less. I dont care about my position in the DT system, i posted that several times. But i am putting up more -ve's the last days while collecting urls for my reports. I review sections when i have some time and do ratings regardless of who already left one. i have excluded DT from my list and just added some people, my current depth is 0. I still review all the ratings before interacting with people.
You can say all you want about how DT isnt trustworthy, the fact of the matter is that it is forced upon the forum's users and therefore should be regulated
Also, you are not offering people choices, when their reputations are on the line you are forcing them
LOL! First you asking to leave people alone and let them do what they want, now you want the trust system moderated. MADE MY DAY! |
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February 25, 2016, 09:49:41 PM |
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You can say all you want about how DT isnt trustworthy, the fact of the matter is that it is forced upon the forum's users and therefore should be regulated
Are you saying anyone isn't free to create their own list of people who they trust, and use DT not because they're lazy but because theymos is forcing it down their throat? You're kidding right? Also, you are not offering people choices, when their reputations are on the line you are forcing them
While you're forcing Blazed to remove me from his trust list, while making it seem as if his reputation is getting affected by me. Anyway, so, you guys are allowed to question my activities/loans/ratings while I can't question something that is suspicious and can(and according to anonymous has been proved to a trusted member) be proved otherwise if provided the proof? |
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