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February 24, 2016, 10:38:18 PM
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By an original idea from Mirco Romanato @painlord2k

How to give the people, the common users, a vote and the power to make it count.

Here the result
https://redd.it/47embj

I hope Mycelium could do the same.
Not to support a specific fork, but to support a way to give people the tools to act, make the difference and make their will hard to ignore.


https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/47embj/electrum_254_forked_with_classic_minning_tip/

https://plus.google.com/101511286444314779057/posts/6Znzgtte34q
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February 24, 2016, 10:47:41 PM
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Mirco Romanato NOT Mirco Rovanato.

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February 25, 2016, 01:44:57 PM
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I wonder how this feels for the electrum server operators...

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February 25, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
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Where are tips going, exactly? To the address that received the last block reward mined by a Classic client?
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February 25, 2016, 06:12:43 PM
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Great Idea Mirko, Kudos to You.

Let's the user vote.


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February 25, 2016, 10:02:22 PM
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Where are tips going, exactly? To the address that received the last block reward mined by a Classic client?

It should go to the coinbase address of the last block mined with Version 805306368  BIP109.
I don't know how it will manage some borderline cases like multiple payment addresses in the coinbase transaction;


I just had the basic idea. The developer of the Electrum fork working on it stated it will be converted in a plug in the the near future to increase the chances to be included in the main release.

My idea is a way to manage a political process allowing the users, the people affected by the decisions made by others, to make their voices heard thru their wallets and their transactions.

It is just a decentralised, market driven and market based, way to buy larger blocks for the users benefitting from larger blocks.

In my opinion, it is a better solution than donating to mining operators to mine blocks with the desired version in it:

we reward the last block mined with BIP109 of the last 1000

This have a few advantages:
1) The miner is rewarded only after he has mined the block
2) If he is the only miner mining, he get all the tips (this incentive the first miners to risk and get out with the first block ASAP, even if someone will try to DDoS him)
3) More miners divide the tips and the burden of the DDoS and other niceties of opponents.
4) The tips form a  continue stream of coins entering in the pocket of the supporting miners
5) The stream is semi-automatic and people should increase the tips as the fees they pay increase because of lack of space in the blocks; the miners supporting the increase of the blocks would receive double fees compared to the miners not supporting it.
6) The people paying the fees could be counted and the support to the fork gauged by the miners and everyone else (E.G. If half of the transactions actively support larger blocks, miners would have a difficult time to dismiss them)
7) It is a decentralized action, so opponents would be in a difficult position to stop it, censor it and so on.



This idea could be, in the near future, generalized as a way to gauge the support of users to future forks of the blockchain and manage political processes in general.

E.G. Think about a community of individuals using bitcoin to pay and be paid: they live on an island and there is a ferry connecting it to the mainland. Some individuals propose to build a bridge, someone else oppose the idea (mainly the ferry boat owners, his employees and his shareholders) and stall the decision. The community, in a very decentralized way, could finance the building of the bridge paying a tip proportional to the fee they pay for the service of the ferry. No one is forced to pay what he oppose to, no one can prevent every individual to pay for what he want.

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