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February 25, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
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Every nation including Turkey claims to be modern, but you still can be attacked in your home and dragged to prison for stating your opinion. There's nothing modern about it.
As a politician you should be ready to face criticism and even insults.

There are countries where you can speak your mind freely. And politicians are and have to assume what they are doing. People won't talk bad about politicians that are good and loved.

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February 25, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
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Its a lie!  I live in the biggest city Istanbul and always follow news and i didn't hear that news.  Only in social media as a desenformation  published by political againsts. Erdogan is a very good and democratic leader in Turkey.  He elected by turkish people with %52.
So,  do not believe everything what you heard.
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February 25, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
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Every nation including Turkey claims to be modern, but you still can be attacked in your home and dragged to prison for stating your opinion. There's nothing modern about it.
As a politician you should be ready to face criticism and even insults.

There are countries where you can speak your mind freely. And politicians are and have to assume what they are doing. People won't talk bad about politicians that are good and loved.
There are no politicians loved by all because they have to make choices and choices never result in all people getting everything they want. Sometimes they have to take from one group and give to another.

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February 25, 2016, 08:28:20 PM
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Every nation including Turkey claims to be modern, but you still can be attacked in your home and dragged to prison for stating your opinion. There's nothing modern about it.
As a politician you should be ready to face criticism and even insults.

There are countries where you can speak your mind freely. And politicians are and have to assume what they are doing. People won't talk bad about politicians that are good and loved.
There are no politicians loved by all because they have to make choices and choices never result in all people getting everything they want. Sometimes they have to take from one group and give to another.

Yes, choices about buying another house or giving it back to the people.

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February 25, 2016, 08:47:20 PM
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Its a lie!  I live in the biggest city Istanbul and always follow news and i didn't hear that news.  Only in social media as a desenformation  published by political againsts. Erdogan is a very good and democratic leader in Turkey.  He elected by turkish people with %52.
So,  do not believe everything what you heard.

If you did not hear about this news, that does not prove if it is wrong or right. sometimes I do not hear about things happen in my city.
 As far as I know, the Turkish law punish people who insult the president or the government by sueing them in the court, So I do not think that this is a fake news. and even if Erdogan is an elected leader that does not prove that this news is fake.
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February 25, 2016, 09:17:29 PM
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Is this a Dictator or a president? If some kids hate him that much to tear his picture off the wall ,then he must be a bad person.

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February 25, 2016, 09:30:40 PM
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Its a lie!  I live in the biggest city Istanbul and always follow news and i didn't hear that news.  Only in social media as a desenformation  published by political againsts. Erdogan is a very good and democratic leader in Turkey.  He elected by turkish people with %52.
So,  do not believe everything what you heard.

If you did not hear about this news, that does not prove if it is wrong or right. sometimes I do not hear about things happen in my city.
 As far as I know, the Turkish law punish people who insult the president or the government by sueing them in the court, So I do not think that this is a fake news. and even if Erdogan is an elected leader that does not prove that this news is fake.
You might not hear what happens in your city. That is your own problem but if a 13 years old boy was arrested of insulting a President, it is a big news and maybe only deaf can't hear it. Turkey is not a clan state. It has own laws and social rules have coming 1000s years and due to our laws and social rules, you can't insult Chair of Presidency. Presidency represents state's own. You may not love Erdogan personaly,  but it doesn't give you any right to insult President. But due to our laws, 13 years boy is not responsible in front of laws. I hope you got it now
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February 26, 2016, 02:46:10 AM
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You might not hear what happens in your city. That is your own problem but if a 13 years old boy was arrested of insulting a President, it is a big news and maybe only deaf can't hear it. Turkey is not a clan state. It has own laws and social rules have coming 1000s years and due to our laws and social rules, you can't insult Chair of Presidency. Presidency represents state's own. You may not love Erdogan personaly,  but it doesn't give you any right to insult President. But due to our laws, 13 years boy is not responsible in front of laws. I hope you got it now

Listen. The news was published in Today's Zaman, which is one of the most popular dailies in Turkey. It is not my problem if you didn't read about it. Perhaps you are illiterate, and could not read.

A report about the incident was also published in Hürriyet Daily News, which I believe is the most popular news paper in Istanbul.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/13-year-old-boy-testifies-for-insulting-erdogan-on-facebook.aspx?pageID=238&nID=79052&NewsCatID=341

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A 13-year-old student in western Turkey has testified on suspicion that he “insulted” President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Facebook. On Feb. 27, a prosecutor in the Ayvalık district of the Balıkesir province summoned the 7th-grader, identified by the initials U.R.E., over a message he shared on Facebook in May 2014, according to a report by Doğan News Agency. The father met the police at his son’s school, from where then they all went to Ayvalık State Hospital and received a medical report. The child then testified to the prosecutor at the courthouse in Ayvalık over his Facebook message.
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Citing Turkey’s defamation laws, Erdoğan has filed criminal complaints citing “insult” against more than 60 people in the country since he was elected to office in August 2014. Besides journalists, students have also increasingly become the target of prosecutors. Teenage schoolboy Mehmet Emin Altunses will go on trial on March 6 on charges of insulting the president in a speech in the conservative Anatolian city of Konya.

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February 26, 2016, 04:17:39 AM
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I get all my news from bitcointalk, is that bad?  I don't know who this guy is but my guess is that I can go about my daily business whilst he does his.  That sounds pretty selfish but I don't buy into this sort of thing.  My lineage ends with me and the world can bend over backwards and blow itself once I'm dead.  And I'm leaving my money to my two cats when I go, or it's going to be in my death shroud when I get cremated.

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February 26, 2016, 04:22:48 AM
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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin
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February 26, 2016, 04:33:51 AM
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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.

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February 26, 2016, 04:39:37 AM
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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.
hahaha! this is so ridiculous! a person who is in power is treated like a god.. good thing i'm in a democratic country Smiley
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February 26, 2016, 12:27:12 PM
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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.
hahaha! this is so ridiculous! a person who is in power is treated like a god.. good thing i'm in a democratic country Smiley

Ridiculous?

We did it for thousands of years.
I don't think you should just laugh at it saying it's ridiculous.
It's a bit like someone who smoke for 40 years and managed to stop, laughing at someone who can't stop saying he's "ridiculous"...

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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.
hahaha! this is so ridiculous! a person who is in power is treated like a god.. good thing i'm in a democratic country Smiley

Ridiculous?

We did it for thousands of years.
I don't think you should just laugh at it saying it's ridiculous.
It's a bit like someone who smoke for 40 years and managed to stop, laughing at someone who can't stop saying he's "ridiculous"...
i know that we were serving and hail them as god for thousands of years... but we were in mordern world... we could say anything we want.. although we are all equal
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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.
hahaha! this is so ridiculous! a person who is in power is treated like a god.. good thing i'm in a democratic country Smiley

Often Turkey is cited as the most successful example of Muslim Democracy. Before, Erdoğan, they were actually a Democratic nation. Erdoğan transformed Turkey from a secular Democratic nation to an Islamic dictatorship. Ahmet Necdet Sezer tried in vain to stop the Islamization of Turkey, by vetoing several of the laws passed by the Islamists. But he stepped down in 2007.

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February 27, 2016, 02:17:52 PM
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I'm not surprised with such news.
Turkey has serious democratic shortcomings and in many respects is closer to a dictatorship than a modern democracy.
Erdogan made a major shift towards Islamism and he also limited human rights in his country.
Turkey is necessary and important because of the crisis in Syria and Iraq and therefore America and other countries don't want to interfere in Turkey's internal crisis.
Because of this, nothing will change and we will read more such news.
It's called political reality.

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WTH!! Erdogan is soo treated like a monarch or something. if insulted him you will go to jail this is ridiculous!!  Grin

At least going to jail is far better than getting your head chopped off. Go to Saudi Arabia, and dare to criticize the ruling monarch. You will be beheaded in a few days time, in full public view. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Qatar, Bahrain... the list is quite long. If you have a penchant for criticizing the heads of state, then avoid these nations.
hahaha! this is so ridiculous! a person who is in power is treated like a god.. good thing i'm in a democratic country Smiley

Often Turkey is cited as the most successful example of Muslim Democracy. Before, Erdoğan, they were actually a Democratic nation. Erdoğan transformed Turkey from a secular Democratic nation to an Islamic dictatorship. Ahmet Necdet Sezer tried in vain to stop the Islamization of Turkey, by vetoing several of the laws passed by the Islamists. But he stepped down in 2007.
that's too bad.. why ahmet necdet stepped down?? he is good to a leader.
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February 27, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
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that's too bad.. why ahmet necdet stepped down?? he is good to a leader.

He knew he was fighting a losing battle. He was involved in far too many controversies. For example, once he threw out Erdoğan's wife from the presidential palace for wearing an Islamic headscarf. His views were too radical and extreme. The AKP supporters (especially those in Anatolia) held protest rallies against him almost every day. He got more and more isolated, after Erdoğan replaced the secualar generals in the Turkish armed forces with those known for pro-Islamist sympathies.

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February 27, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
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Every nation including Turkey claims to be modern, but you still can be attacked in your home and dragged to prison for stating your opinion. There's nothing modern about it.
As a politician you should be ready to face criticism and even insults.

perfectly agreed... i think all politicians must be tolerant to any opposite ideas to them which is essential for democracy and freedom of speech..

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February 28, 2016, 02:44:14 AM
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If he doesn't like people's opinions he should try and be a better person and politician. Like a spoiled child running off to mommy because the other children said something he didn't like.

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