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February 26, 2016, 05:52:15 AM |
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UNO
Why?
1. UNO is Bitcoin code, so you are doing code work that improves both at the same time. 2. ASIC tech is the most certain and advanced, so the task now is to improve the merge mining side, that could usher 1000s of side projects to join in. Creating a very decentralized and secure network that acts very much like the "Crypto 2.0 or 3.0" projects.
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February 26, 2016, 01:25:59 PM |
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I vote for first Other to SIA real name, real company, dedicated development and real delivery product. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060294.new#newtheir "airbnb" style decentralized cloud storage client is working on smart contract base.
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February 26, 2016, 03:39:45 PM |
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There could be some many options,
I would add Ethereum,Lisk at least in the poll.
They have a great following and are very promising.
And good business people behind it, that are actually working hard for the coin.
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February 26, 2016, 05:41:13 PM |
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I would say Bitcoin or Blackcoin.
Blackcoin because it's one of the most efficient POS altcoin.
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Sia had a 30 million coin premine. There are currently 10 billion coins in circulation, definitely just a drop in the bucket. I regret doing that premine, should have just dropped $600 during the first 5 days of trading, would have had the same effect.
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February 27, 2016, 03:41:37 AM |
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Monero.
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February 27, 2016, 03:45:52 AM |
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BitShares is quite interesting to work for as you can be paid by the blockchain directly. Two ways currently: -Worker Proposal. Submit a scope of work proposal with required compensation which shareholders can vote on. If approved, you are automatically paid the blockchain for your work. This provides a checks and balance system. If you are showing progress shareholders will continue to vote for you, if no progress, deadbeat workers are voted out. -Fee Backed Asset. Stealth was the first fee backed asset. An end user paid 45k FiAT to Cryptonomex (Bytemaster and team) to implement both the code and GUI. In return when a stealth transfer is used part of the transfer fee goes to holders of the Stealth FBA. The end user who funded stealth can hold the complete asset themselves or sell them on BitShares internal exchange. General Overview http://docs.bitshares.eu/bitshares/user/index.html#for-blockchain-employeesWorkers http://docs.bitshares.eu/bitshares/user/worker.htmlFBA https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0007.mdThe BitShares chain can almost be viewed as an autonomous corporation.
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February 27, 2016, 04:11:08 AM |
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Monero.
Because? ... Lisk ...
Why does Lisk not have a CoinMarketCap page? Monero because it is the best privacy oriented coin with the fairest launch that still has a lot of features in the works, such as i2p integration, pruning, confidential ring signature txs, and more. Lisk is a fork of Crypti that is about to launch an ICO. It's pretty scammy IMO, Crypti had an ICO, now same devs are forking it and running another ICO, wtf?
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February 27, 2016, 04:15:01 AM |
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Monero because it is the best privacy oriented coin with the fairest launch that still has a lot of features in the works, such as i2p integration, pruning, confidential ring signature txs, and more.
Lisk is a fork of Crypti that is about to launch an ICO. It's pretty scammy IMO, Crypti had an ICO, now same devs are forking it and running another ICO, wtf?
these LISK guys can't even be called devs. more like promoters and graphic desigers than serious coders.
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February 27, 2016, 04:27:31 AM |
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For more information on Monero. Here are some starting points https://getmonero.org/homehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0https://www.reddit.com/r/moneroFor starters: 1) Coin development is funded entirely by donations of time and / or funds. There is no premine etc. Coins are only obtained via Proof of Work mining. This avoids many regulatory issues with agencies such as FinCEN in the United States. 2) Privacy and fungibility via ring signatures, (Cryptonote code base). Current. Ring Signatures with Confidential Transactions (Ring CT) in the future. 3) Adaptive blocksize limits combined with a tail emission address the blocksize scaling issue in Bitcoin. This is by far the highest capitalization Proof of Work coin that does not have the blocksize scaling issue, that is currently tearing the Bitcoin community apart. 4) A strong and very active development team that has over close two years made very significant advances over the original Cryptonote code base. Monero is currently listed 5th over all for developer in https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score5) A strong and active research arm that is actively addressing security and technical issues. https://lab.getmonero.org/6) A clear set of design and development goals showing clear and measurable progress https://getmonero.org/design-goals/7) A forum funding system (totally voluntary) with a proven track record of funding projects. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progressI can continue but the above should provide a prospective developer with the tools to start her research. When getting involved with a project such as Monero the one thing I would recommend is to do your own research first.
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February 28, 2016, 06:56:35 PM |
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Sia had a 30 million coin premine. There are currently 10 billion coins in circulation, definitely just a drop in the bucket. I regret doing that premine, should have just dropped $600 during the first 5 days of trading, would have had the same effect.
They found an elegant way to avoid premine & ICO : this is a two coin mecanism : siacoin and siafunds. The siafunds has been sold to initial investors : they give right to have a percentage of the payment in siacoin of the storage contracts. The siacoin are being produced by POW and are the money for the storage renting mecanism.
The one offering storage propose renting at some price on the network, the one searching for storage choose the best offer for his needs and pay in siacoin for a certain time. A small fee of the renting payment goes to the siafunds holders.
The storage mecanism is in ealy beta stage.
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For more information on Monero. Here are some starting points https://getmonero.org/homehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0https://www.reddit.com/r/moneroFor starters: 1) Coin development is funded entirely by donations of time and / or funds. There is no premine etc. Coins are only obtained via Proof of Work mining. This avoids many regulatory issues with agencies such as FinCEN in the United States. 2) Privacy and fungibility via ring signatures, (Cryptonote code base). Current. Ring Signatures with Confidential Transactions (Ring CT) in the future. 3) Adaptive blocksize limits combined with a tail emission address the blocksize scaling issue in Bitcoin. This is by far the highest capitalization Proof of Work coin that does not have the blocksize scaling issue, that is currently tearing the Bitcoin community apart. 4) A strong and very active development team that has over close two years made very significant advances over the original Cryptonote code base. Monero is currently listed 5th over all for developer in https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score5) A strong and active research arm that is actively addressing security and technical issues. https://lab.getmonero.org/6) A clear set of design and development goals showing clear and measurable progress https://getmonero.org/design-goals/7) A forum funding system (totally voluntary) with a proven track record of funding projects. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progressI can continue but the above should provide a prospective developer with the tools to start her research. When getting involved with a project such as Monero the one thing I would recommend is to do your own research first. In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.
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February 28, 2016, 10:28:13 PM |
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In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.
Are there more or less questions about Bitcoin's origin? What a load of shit. Also, putting Blackcoin on there, a clone coin that had a 1 week PoW phase so dev could instamine the shit out of it then switch over to PoS - sounds really "ethical".
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February 28, 2016, 10:45:30 PM |
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In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.
You disqualify Monero on the grounds that it was forked from Bytecoin / Cryptonote, yet you do not disqualify Litecoin on the grounds it was forked from Tenebrix? Disqualifying premined / ninjamined coins is admirable, selectively disqualifying coins that are forked from premined / ninjamined coins to remove the premine / ninjamine is not. Like I said: Please do your research.
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February 28, 2016, 11:11:15 PM |
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I don't want this to sound too much like a Monero circle jerk, but I think devs such as your self would appreciate what monero is trying to do. Here's a very recent video that Bitcoin Uncensored did and has Fluffypony (one of the core devs of Monero) as a guest, which starts at 6:00 and ends at 32:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=6mHopefully this will give you a better insight of how people who work with Monero think... and hopefully you can see that it's a pretty humble group of people who primarily are in it for the research in cryptonote technology. Also, on the getmonero forum page, there is a section there that people post ideas that they think would possibly help Monero... whether it's in the actual code of Monero itself, or other projects that need to be done to help the Monero economy. These ideas will be talked about on there and if people deem it a good idea, the community and dev will work out some sort of price (in XMR) which the community will pay the dev to do. So if you have some knowledge in building cool apps or other things that will enhance the economy of Monero, then there is a little bit of extra incentive for you. But seriously, if you don't want to work on it because maybe you just don't like the way cryptonotes are, or whatever the reason maybe... don't feel like you have to include us in your decision making.
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Although I voted for huc this is easily my 2nd choice.
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February 29, 2016, 02:55:00 AM |
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... Some people believe there is compelling evidence that cryptonote was developed by some alphabet soup agency. The evidence convinces me that it is likely.
I drop the discussion unless it's supporters want to push.
What evidence? That Keccak was sponsored by NSA? So was SHA256. That the original devs are unknown? So is Bitcoin's dev(s). Do you have any actual evidence, or just tinfoil hat speculation?
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February 29, 2016, 02:58:25 AM |
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Synereo, because it frees people from the grasp of the big social media / big data complex.
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February 29, 2016, 03:18:07 AM |
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I don't want this to sound too much like a Monero circle jerk, but I think devs such as your self would appreciate what monero is trying to do. Here's a very recent video that Bitcoin Uncensored did and has Fluffypony (one of the core devs of Monero) as a guest, which starts at 6:00 and ends at 32:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=6mHopefully this will give you a better insight of how people who work with Monero think... and hopefully you can see that it's a pretty humble group of people who primarily are in it for the research in cryptonote technology. Also, on the getmonero forum page, there is a section there that people post ideas that they think would possibly help Monero... whether it's in the actual code of Monero itself, or other projects that need to be done to help the Monero economy. These ideas will be talked about on there and if people deem it a good idea, the community and dev will work out some sort of price (in XMR) which the community will pay the dev to do. So if you have some knowledge in building cool apps or other things that will enhance the economy of Monero, then there is a little bit of extra incentive for you. But seriously, if you don't want to work on it because maybe you just don't like the way cryptonotes are, or whatever the reason maybe... don't feel like you have to include us in your decision making. With regard to Monero, please don't turn this into a Cryptonote thread. Some people believe there is compelling evidence that cryptonote was developed by some alphabet soup agency. The evidence convinces me that it is likely. I drop the discussion unless it's supporters want to push. It's ok, I won't turn this into a cryptonote thread... If you don't feel comfortable with cryptonote and want to work with a clone of Bitcoin or another platform that's cool. But understand that what you said is contradictory in that you don't want this to turn into a thread about cryptonote, but yet your waiting to hear other "supporters" of Monero tell you that it's the best out their by "pushing" monero. You shouldn't have to be "pushed" into something you feel is ethical, I feel you are waiting to be inspired by a project. So with that, I suggest other Monero supporters on here to stop trying to "push", Monero's project should speak for itself... And if OP doesn't want to do it, then let him do his own thing. I don't think he's really wanting to debate over something that fits what we like to see in a coin, and that's ok because he is entitled to his own opinions.
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February 29, 2016, 05:00:45 AM |
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It's ok, I won't turn this into a cryptonote thread... If you don't feel comfortable with cryptonote and want to work with a clone of Bitcoin or another platform that's cool. But understand that what you said is contradictory in that you don't want this to turn into a thread about cryptonote, but yet your waiting to hear other "supporters" of Monero tell you that it's the best out their by "pushing" monero. You shouldn't have to be "pushed" into something you feel is ethical, I feel you are waiting to be inspired by a project.
So with that, I suggest other Monero supporters on here to stop trying to "push", Monero's project should speak for itself... And if OP doesn't want to do it, then let him do his own thing. I don't think he's really wanting to debate over something that fits what we like to see in a coin, and that's ok because he is entitled to his own opinions.
Good point. Sorry. You can read the last few days posts on the huntercoin thread and the op on this thread to see what I was looking for. What evidence? That Keccak was sponsored by NSA? So was SHA256. That the original devs are unknown? So is Bitcoin's dev(s). Do you have any actual evidence, or just tinfoil hat speculation?
There was a very scholarly site by some Russians, Cryptobang I think it was called, that laid out a compelling case. The site is gone but you can find copies of it I think. I understand that there are two sides to surveillance issues, and I understand both sides are sincere. I am in coins to make money, at this point, and with my very limited, i.e., near zero, knowledge of cryptography, and the takeaway from the cryptobang article, defending cryptonote is a high bar.
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Synereo, because it frees people from the grasp of the big social media / big data complex. Am looking at it and will probably add new coins tomorrow. Seems to have a huge premine. That's good I guess if you like premines.
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... What evidence? That Keccak was sponsored by NSA? So was SHA256. That the original devs are unknown? So is Bitcoin's dev(s). Do you have any actual evidence, or just tinfoil hat speculation?
There was a very scholarly site by some Russians, Cryptobang I think it was called, that laid out a compelling case. The site is gone but you can find copies of it I think. I understand that there are two sides to surveillance issues, and I understand both sides are sincere. I am in coins to make money, at this point, and with my very limited, i.e., near zero, knowledge of cryptography, and the takeaway from the cryptobang article, defending cryptonote is a high bar. Those were basically the only two points from the cryptobang article. It's mirrored here: https://criticl.me/post/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-2292It's not scholarly at all. There's no references, and they make no legitimate arguments (unless I'm missing them and you would like to point them out). Monero is one of the only alt coins to be praised and/or used by Bitcoin core developers: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/46gfgv/list_of_prominent_bitcoin_people_that_spoke/Are you saying that Greg Maxwell, Wladimir J. van der Laan, Peter Todd, Andrew Poelstra, Nicolas Courtois, and Theymos are all under the influence of alphabet soup organizations?
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February 29, 2016, 03:32:17 PM |
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Monero because it is the best privacy oriented coin with the fairest launch that still has a lot of features in the works, such as i2p integration, pruning, confidential ring signature txs, and more.
Lisk is a fork of Crypti that is about to launch an ICO. It's pretty scammy IMO, Crypti had an ICO, now same devs are forking it and running another ICO, wtf?
these LISK guys can't even be called devs. more like promoters and graphic desigers than serious coders. Yeh maybe if you read about it, they where not the dev's of crypty just early member's And in 2016 they left it because their ideology's drifted apart, They just release a video about why this coin is going to be great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_0TjP1gjYAnd they already collected over 1300 Bitcoin so tell me how this is going to be a scam?
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Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
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Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
I'm guessing because OP is only interested in shilling Blackcoin and/or Unobtainium. This thread is a joke, and if you want to dictate the conversation, OP, you need to start a self-moderated thread.
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Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
I'm guessing because OP is only interested in shilling Blackcoin and/or Unobtainium. This thread is a joke, and if you want to dictate the conversation, OP, you need to start a self-moderated thread. The only coin on the poll which I buy is Huntercoin. It has one vote. Mine. Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
added This poll is trying to get opinions and measure genuine sentiment towards coins. It's not a competition. If you link the poll in a thread and try to inflate the votes for "your" coin I'll remove your coin until the next reset. Sia removed Horizon "" temporarily. Gridcoin "" temporarily.
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Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
I'm guessing because OP is only interested in shilling Blackcoin and/or Unobtainium. This thread is a joke, and if you want to dictate the conversation, OP, you need to start a self-moderated thread. The only coin on the poll which I buy is Huntercoin. It has one vote. Mine. Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
added This poll is trying to get opinions and measure genuine sentiment towards coins. It's not a competition. If you link the poll in a thread and try to inflate the votes for "your" coin I'll remove your coin until the next reset. Sia removed Horizon "" temporarily. Gridcoin "" temporarily.
Sooo... Why don't you just try to work for Huntercoin? Sounds like you already have made your mind up IMO, and not really looking for suggestions.
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February 29, 2016, 07:32:25 PM |
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Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
I'm guessing because OP is only interested in shilling Blackcoin and/or Unobtainium. This thread is a joke, and if you want to dictate the conversation, OP, you need to start a self-moderated thread. The only coin on the poll which I buy is Huntercoin. It has one vote. Mine. Was Horizon removed? If so, why? Thanks.
added This poll is trying to get opinions and measure genuine sentiment towards coins. It's not a competition. If you link the poll in a thread and try to inflate the votes for "your" coin I'll remove your coin until the next reset. Sia removed Horizon "" temporarily. Gridcoin "" temporarily.
Okay....thanks for the clarification.
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Sooo... Why don't you just try to work for Huntercoin? Sounds like you already have made your mind up IMO, and not really looking for suggestions.
What is wrong with looking for other ethical coins? Do you own only one coin? The poll format may have been a mistake, since it has become a spamfest, but I am able to look at other coins and gauge them.
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I 3rd Gridcoin, easily one of the best coins for altrusm, I have contributed to some amazing projects over 10 years on the BOINC platform and its great for Gridcoin to help me in that continued effort! I also add a vote for Solarcoin, which is incentivising people to install Solar PV, also very worthy. Im not sure why Sia is added to a list like this, its a good coin Im using and invested in. Im also not clear why some other coins made it on this list, perhaps Im mis-interpreting the word 'ethical'.
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SolarCoin Address: 8cESoZyjFvx2Deq6VjQLqPfAwu8UXjcBkK Gridcoin Address: SAuPu8zarzQykWLGwxc6JRvW3imM8YU9wc
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