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April 03, 2016, 09:41:22 PM
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Looking for cars that run on CO2, producing oxygen as result. Wink
That's not how physics works. Breaking up CO2 into carbon and oxygen requires energy, it is impossible to produce energy this way.

But CO2/Methane reaction releases water, and only about half as efficient as gasoline/oxygen Cheesy Given the relatively cheap production and renewability of methane, might be a good idea.
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April 03, 2016, 11:44:06 PM
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I feel like electric cars are like Bitcoin, like big revolution starter, but not the one that will last, more interlevel in car progress. Looking for cars that run on CO2, producing oxygen as result. Wink
Lmao. Can't wait to see that happen.  Roll Eyes

I'd totally get a Tesla if I had the monies for it. Even the "cheaper" model seems to be a bit above my price-range though.
$35k is not alot for an innovative ground breaking entry into the electric automotive world.
If you think so it is not the right car for you.

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April 05, 2016, 05:29:18 AM
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Tesla Model 3 - 276,000 orders in 3 days and counting

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April 05, 2016, 07:37:08 AM
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Tesla Model 3 - 276,000 orders in 3 days and counting

theese guys at tesla know what they are doing, 276.000 orders in 72h it's something very big, but i heard that the model 3 have a very good price.
Good work tesla, we are tired of petrol
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April 05, 2016, 08:36:32 AM
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cant wait for the new tesla man i will put the money down cash just to drive one
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April 06, 2016, 06:31:01 AM
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Preordered a Tesla Model 3 with Bitcoin - https://medium.com/@masonic_tweets/i-just-preordered-a-tesla-model-3-with-bitcoin-f570bafcb882#.b76xoz5kt

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April 07, 2016, 05:53:09 PM
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I feel like electric cars are like Bitcoin, like big revolution starter, but not the one that will last, more interlevel in car progress. Looking for cars that run on CO2, producing oxygen as result. Wink
Lmao. Can't wait to see that happen.  Roll Eyes

I'd totally get a Tesla if I had the monies for it. Even the "cheaper" model seems to be a bit above my price-range though.
$35k is not alot for an innovative ground breaking entry into the electric automotive world.
If you think so it is not the right car for you.
I think it's a lot for _me_. That's what I'm saying. Cars tend to cost considerably here too. Didn't intend the "s like that, sorry lol.

I hadn't checked the price for 3, I just read a local article some time back stating the X would cost around 100K in euro.
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April 07, 2016, 06:16:31 PM
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I would like to buy one, but the question is can it handle the wear you put on your gas car?  you think the electrical circuits go bad after a while, so they will not outlast the gas engine vehicles out there.  I would love to have to one to tear apart to learn from.

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April 07, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
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Looking for cars that run on CO2, producing oxygen as result. Wink
That's not how physics works. Breaking up CO2 into carbon and oxygen requires energy, it is impossible to produce energy this way.

But CO2/Methane reaction releases water, and only about half as efficient as gasoline/oxygen Cheesy Given the relatively cheap production and renewability of methane, might be a good idea.
Why would you want CO2 to react with Methane, instead of burning the methane? That seems like a terrible way to get carbonmonoxide.
CO2 + CH4 → 2 H2 + 2 CO
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June 16, 2016, 08:28:21 PM
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NIKOLA MOTOR GETS $2.3B WORTH OF PREORDERS FOR 2,000HP, ELECTRIC SEMI-TRAILER TRUCK


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June 16, 2016, 11:57:25 PM
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Looking for cars that run on CO2, producing oxygen as result. Wink
That's not how physics works. Breaking up CO2 into carbon and oxygen requires energy, it is impossible to produce energy this way.

But CO2/Methane reaction releases water, and only about half as efficient as gasoline/oxygen Cheesy Given the relatively cheap production and renewability of methane, might be a good idea.
Why would you want CO2 to react with Methane, instead of burning the methane? That seems like a terrible way to get carbonmonoxide.
CO2 + CH4 → 2 H2 + 2 CO
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June 17, 2016, 12:25:01 AM
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i think it will be a good idea if i buy an electric vehicles , but i have one problem with it ! the duration of battery . and how much it cost ?  Undecided
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June 17, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
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I was out walking with my dog on the campus, it was the weekend, peace and quiet, suddenly a securitycar rolled past me, it was a absolutely silent electric car. sneaky bastards.
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June 17, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
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Tesla Model 3 - 276,000 orders in 3 days and counting
I like it too when they made a solar powered vehicle.
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June 17, 2016, 09:02:57 PM
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I don't really like electric vehicles, i am using default engine.

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June 18, 2016, 11:20:21 AM
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I was out walking with my dog on the campus, it was the weekend, peace and quiet, suddenly a securitycar rolled past me, it was a absolutely silent electric car. sneaky bastards.
When first electric cars came out, some people were conserned about blind people being unable to know these cars were comming. Some people proposed that these cars should emit a sound similar to convensional cars.

But now that cars have automatic pilots and stuff, it became kind of irrelevant...



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June 18, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
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It's said that these vehicules are environment friends but I think if all people will use them so electricity demand will increase as well as the energy needed to provide it (with all its emissions and problems)...
So, it's better to optimize the primary energy sources.
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It's said that these vehicules are environment friends but I think if all people will use them so electricity demand will increase as well as the energy needed to provide it (with all its emissions and problems)...
So, it's better to optimize the primary energy sources.
We could utilize more renewable sources of energy so we aren't using primary sources of energy like fossil fuels.
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July 23, 2016, 10:38:55 AM
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Electric vehicles are future and one of the ways to save the planet. They would be in much more massive use by now if there wasn't so much money involved regarding oil and strong influence of rich Arab countries whose existance depends on oil.
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Electric vehicles are future and one of the ways to save the planet. They would be in much more massive use by now if there wasn't so much money involved regarding oil and strong influence of rich Arab countries whose existance depends on oil.

I have a bit of a quibble here. I'm in favor of electric vehicles, and not too opposed to fuel burners. But the planet is just fine. It was here before us, and it will be here after we're part of the fossil record.

The problem is saving ourselves, and current lifeforms on this planet. And of course, getting off of it.

The Arab nations do not have near as much influence on this as the 'western' nations, to be honest. They have a lot of petroleum, and they use it to enrich themselves. But, given the necessity and continuing growth of polymer use, oil used as fuel is wasteful, not just because of the environmental concerns. To my mind, it's far more valuable for everything it's used for EXCEPT fuel.

The large energy conglomerates resist change because they (wrongly) think it will hurt them, and (rightly) that it will reduce their ability to control things and people. For something as high tech as oil refinement and it's associated disciplines, they're an incredibly luddite group.

If they were to switch to renewable fuels, such as ethanol (just one possibility) and various blends of vegetable oils and such for general fueling, the cost would actually be on par with that of refining crude oil. The changeover would be very expensive, but not prohibitively so, and they would in a decade be able to produce more fuel at lower cost than with the current paradigm. They'd come off as heros. However, this is not easy, simple, or without risk, and those are the things they look at.

Further, they fear (rightly) that people will figure out that they can make these fuels themselves, for their own needs, at relatively low expense. They fear decentralization even more than the banks do.

Electric vehicles do almost nothing to address that. They are perceived as environmentally freindly (a debateable proposition), but they still require the consumption of fuels elsewhere to charge the batteries. This is not, as noted above, and unsolvable problem, but it's one that the energy conglomerates can kick down the road as long as the PERCEPTION of lower emissions is in place.

To my mind, electric vehicles are a step in the right direction, but only part of a comprehensive solution. Electric motors are vastly more efficient at transmission of force than gasoline motors, but their energy consumption is actually somewhat higher. As electric vehicles continue to be develooped, that inefficiency is coming closer to parity, and likely will eventually exceed the efficiency of gasoline engines. It has already exceeded the efficiencies of ethanol/methanol conversions (though that too, is underdeveloped).

In any event, breaking the stranglehold that the energy conglomerates currently have is not going to happen because of the rising popularity of electric vehicles. It affects them not at all, or positively because of the requirement for more electrical power.

Decentralization of the power grids is a much more useful approach to fixing the massive environmental problems of the current paradigm, and it's doable. But it requires people at large to get educated, get smart, and start building shit. Slogans and bandaids are NOT going to fix the problems.
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