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March 29, 2013, 04:19:42 AM
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North Korea says it has put missile units on stand-by to attack US targets in response to US stealth bomber flights over the Korean peninsula.
So is this all just aggressive posturing?

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North Korea says it has put missile units on stand-by to attack US targets in response to US stealth bomber flights over the Korean peninsula.
So is this all just aggressive posturing?

Yes, it's posturing.

NK needs the US as an enemy for political control. They need a threat so their people look to them for protection. Without a military threat, the leadership loses authority in the eyes of the people. Contrary to popular belief, NK relies much more on the consent of the population than ruling through brute force. They need a reason for legitimacy.

Ironically, the US uses NK for the exact same reasons. The US needs terrorists and nuclear threats to keep people scared/reliant on big brother for protection.
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March 29, 2013, 04:37:37 AM
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Yes, it's posturing.

NK needs the US as an enemy for political control. They need a threat so their people look to them for protection. Without a military threat, the leadership loses authority in the eyes of the people. Contrary to popular belief, NK relies much more on the consent of the population than ruling through brute force. They need a reason for legitimacy.

Ironically, the US uses NK for the exact same reasons. The US needs terrorists and nuclear threats to keep people scared/reliant on big brother for protection.

I hope you're right, but the tension in the region does seem to be ratcheting up.

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March 29, 2013, 04:59:56 AM
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I hope you're right, but the tension in the region does seem to be ratcheting up.

I am more concerned about the situation between China and Japan (that hasn't been mentioned much in Western headlines) as talk of war between them (over the disputed territory) is now a constant topic in Beijing.

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March 29, 2013, 05:05:16 AM
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I hope you're right, but the tension in the region does seem to be ratcheting up.

I am more concerned about the situation between China and Japan (that hasn't been mentioned much in Western headlines) as talk of war between them (over the disputed territory) is now a constant topic in Beijing.

One of these days, China's going to nuke Tokyo, or something similarly drastic, and it will be a complete surprise to everyone except the Chinese and Japanese.

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March 29, 2013, 04:07:05 PM
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You're right, the Japan - China situation doesn't get the coverage it deserves in the west. I was unaware the situation was so serious there until doing some googling.

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'Stay away from North Korea - war is HOURS AWAY': Kim Jong Un's chilling message to British tour boss as it is revealed ten tourists including one Brit are on holiday in Pyongyang right now
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301127/Stay-away-North-Korea--war-HOURS-AWAY-Kim-Jong-Uns-chilling-message-British-tour-boss.html

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March 29, 2013, 04:09:40 PM
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I hope you're right, but the tension in the region does seem to be ratcheting up.

I am more concerned about the situation between China and Japan (that hasn't been mentioned much in Western headlines) as talk of war between them (over the disputed territory) is now a constant topic in Beijing.

One of these days, China's going to nuke Tokyo, or something similarly drastic, and it will be a complete surprise to everyone except the Chinese and Japanese.
Yeah, apparently the feud runs deep between them since the world war last time.

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March 29, 2013, 04:17:16 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156207.msg1668376#msg1668376


On a different note, I'm sitting on my balcony waiting for the fireworks to start. North Korea apparently doesn't remember US vs Japan.

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March 29, 2013, 04:18:43 PM
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There is a need for Kim Jung Un to show power in his new position. This too, will pass.

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March 29, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936
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North Korea says it has put missile units on stand-by to attack US targets in response to US stealth bomber flights over the Korean peninsula.
So is this all just aggressive posturing?

Yes, it's posturing.

NK needs the US as an enemy for political control. They need a threat so their people look to them for protection. Without a military threat, the leadership loses authority in the eyes of the people. Contrary to popular belief, NK relies much more on the consent of the population than ruling through brute force. They need a reason for legitimacy.

Ironically, the US uses NK for the exact same reasons. The US needs terrorists and nuclear threats to keep people scared/reliant on big brother for protection.
I applaud you. Hit the nail on the head right here.

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March 30, 2013, 12:18:27 AM
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North Korea announced Saturday that it had entered a “state of war” with South Korea and would deal with every inter-Korean issue accordingly.

“As of now, inter-Korea relations enter a state of war and all matters between the two Koreas will be handled according to wartime protocol,” the North said in a joint statement attributed to all government bodies and institutions.
http://bhcourier.com/north-korea-puts-rockets-standby-strike/2013/03/29

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March 30, 2013, 12:19:25 AM
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North Korea announced Saturday that it had entered a “state of war” with South Korea and would deal with every inter-Korean issue accordingly.

“As of now, inter-Korea relations enter a state of war and all matters between the two Koreas will be handled according to wartime protocol,” the North said in a joint statement attributed to all government bodies and institutions.
http://bhcourier.com/north-korea-puts-rockets-standby-strike/2013/03/29
Shit just got real.

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March 30, 2013, 12:29:57 AM
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North Korea announced Saturday that it had entered a “state of war” with South Korea and would deal with every inter-Korean issue accordingly.

“As of now, inter-Korea relations enter a state of war and all matters between the two Koreas will be handled according to wartime protocol,” the North said in a joint statement attributed to all government bodies and institutions.
http://bhcourier.com/north-korea-puts-rockets-standby-strike/2013/03/29
Shit just got real.

Cmon who da fuzz TALKS about being in a state of war.  When you go to war you start shooting.  NK has several thousand long range artillery pieces pointed south, they have a million or more troops who can overrun the DMZ.  They may even have some missiles.  What with just this "war talk."  Lob a few south and attack this enemy you are at war with...what?  what?  ur scared shit of what the west will do to your bullshit dictatorship if you fire a single shot?  Move along folks, nothing to see here.

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March 30, 2013, 12:41:03 AM
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North Korea announced Saturday that it had entered a “state of war” with South Korea and would deal with every inter-Korean issue accordingly.

“As of now, inter-Korea relations enter a state of war and all matters between the two Koreas will be handled according to wartime protocol,” the North said in a joint statement attributed to all government bodies and institutions.
http://bhcourier.com/north-korea-puts-rockets-standby-strike/2013/03/29
Shit just got real.

Cmon who da fuzz TALKS about being in a state of war.  When you go to war you start shooting.  NK has several thousand long range artillery pieces pointed south, they have a million or more troops who can overrun the DMZ.  They may even have some missiles.  What with just this "war talk."  Lob a few south and attack this enemy you are at war with...what?  what?  ur scared shit of what the west will do to your bullshit dictatorship if you fire a single shot?  Move along folks, nothing to see here.

No, these things take time. They have to call in all their alliances, make sure it's cool with all of them, etc. WWIII will be over pretty fast once it gets started, but the build-up takes some time.

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March 30, 2013, 12:49:11 AM
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It might very well just be a whole lot of saber rattling. But, in situations like these things can escalate beyond anyones control very rapidly. The recent announcement by the north that they are going to launch a nucular first strike has got to have put a lot of military facility's on a state of very high alert.

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It might very well just be a whole lot of saber rattling. But, in situations like these things can escalate beyond anyones control very rapidly. The recent announcement by the north that they are going to launch a nucular first strike has got to have put a lot of military facility's on a state of very high alert.

Just my point WTF announces that they will do a nuclear first strike.  Even Truman said that the Japanese would face "obliteration" if they didn't surrender.  Even he who had a specific thing he wanted didn't tip his hand and tell them he had the bomb. 

NK put every one on notice to warm up their missile interceptor systems.  We have our laser spitting 747s patrolling the Sea of Japan, ABM bases in Alaska are now all spun up.  The iron dome is ready.   Best chance of them scoring a hit is to pretend to be doing a surprise missile test and then WHAM!  Sorry Kim, you tipped your hand.  All units are now ready to shoot down your missiles and the boomer boats are just waiting to level all your bases with trident MIRV warheads with a 15 minute response time.

Even b4 pearl harbor, the Japanese announced their declaration of war just a mere 2 hours before the attack.  Bad atmospheric conditions prevented an alert message getting through to pearl.  The knew they'd still catch the Navy with its pants down.

No no, this is just a attempt to scare the US public into not cutting defense spending.  Kim will get his foreign aid payoff via china soon.

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March 30, 2013, 03:09:21 AM
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No no, this is just a attempt to scare the US public into not cutting defense spending.  Kim will get his foreign aid payoff via china soon.

Now, this is plausible. especially considering:

NK needs the US as an enemy for political control. They need a threat so their people look to them for protection. Without a military threat, the leadership loses authority in the eyes of the people. Contrary to popular belief, NK relies much more on the consent of the population than ruling through brute force. They need a reason for legitimacy.

Ironically, the US uses NK for the exact same reasons. The US needs terrorists and nuclear threats to keep people scared/reliant on big brother for protection.

More friggin' brinksmanship. Chest-beating and saber-rattling... mostly to make sure the other guy doesn't back down.

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March 30, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
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I hope you're right, but the tension in the region does seem to be ratcheting up.

I am more concerned about the situation between China and Japan (that hasn't been mentioned much in Western headlines) as talk of war between them (over the disputed territory) is now a constant topic in Beijing.


ya i've been wondering why western media sources seem to refuse to cover this
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