Allowing ISIS Flags on accounts kinda fucking sucks

[bitcoin-esperanto]

So this random fucking dude with an ISIS flag in his profile posts all over the place, but has chosen to make himself at home in our project; we end up losing a project member who can't stand to have him post (even on ignore) when nothing can be done to stop the use of the ISIS flag; and using self-moderated threads for a project is kinda out of the question.

So, this really fucking sucks.

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I can no longer be part of spreadcoin
rests on  "Abou Talha", i cannot for moral reasons be associated with a project where someone is for cruelty toward people of other
religions, against women, and stoneage punishments towards other people.

Normally i dont care about other people´s religion, but he is just too much, his tagline, and support of a flag, that now stands for
something that im totally against

im sad to say, but i am out, even though i believe in the vision of spreadcoin....

some one has already suggest to send the ip of this user to local police in "brussels"?
maybe it's a good action!

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[Abou Talha]

Look at how minerpage is beautiful. Alexa from California.

https://www.google.be/search?q=minerpage+alexa+twitter&biw=1600&bih=888&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDiPGb0arLAhVDfhoKHVJ_BUAQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.05#imgrc=ZRQNflC8To13WM%3A

[The Sceptical Chymist]

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If this ISIS avatar is illegal in several countries around the world, then either block those countries IP addresses from accessing this site so this guy can keep his avatar, or ban his avatar.

Alright, while we are at it, lets ban bitcoin. Its illegal in several countries as well.

The argument is not legal vs illegal, the argument is about us (as a group) working on public perception about something we believe in (crypto). Self regulation will go a long way to improve global adoption and to get there we need to win public opinion. Allowing criminals and terrorists in our midst will not advance that perception in any way. Why even consider allowing it?

I'd say one out of two bitcoin users is a criminal.  And so what.  I don't like ISIS but I don't care much if some random internet user has their flag as their avatar. 

[shorena]

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If this ISIS avatar is illegal in several countries around the world, then either block those countries IP addresses from accessing this site so this guy can keep his avatar, or ban his avatar.

Alright, while we are at it, lets ban bitcoin. Its illegal in several countries as well.

The argument is not legal vs illegal, the argument is about us (as a group) working on public perception about something we believe in (crypto). Self regulation will go a long way to improve global adoption and to get there we need to win public opinion. Allowing criminals and terrorists in our midst will not advance that perception in any way. Why even consider allowing it?

If you start to give up freedom for security the terrorists have already won. Baning the symbol will change nothing, but sweep it under the rug.

[minerpage]

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If this ISIS avatar is illegal in several countries around the world, then either block those countries IP addresses from accessing this site so this guy can keep his avatar, or ban his avatar.

Alright, while we are at it, lets ban bitcoin. Its illegal in several countries as well.

The argument is not legal vs illegal, the argument is about us (as a group) working on public perception about something we believe in (crypto). Self regulation will go a long way to improve global adoption and to get there we need to win public opinion. Allowing criminals and terrorists in our midst will not advance that perception in any way. Why even consider allowing it?

If you start to give up freedom for security the terrorists have already won. Baning the symbol will change nothing, but sweep it under the rug.

We'll see how you feel when one shows up in your thread every day and using your coin and scaring your clients and supporters away!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I understand and I'm trying to appeal to common sense from everyone on this board. This affects all of us and the crypto we're trying to promote. My argument is not legal vs illegal, I'm talking about how we are being perceived when we allow these kind of statements (terror support). No matter how you slice it, someone who displays that symbol is a supporter and whoever allows that display is a sympathizer. No way around it. All I'm asking is that we consider what we allow ourselves to be associated with. That's all.

I agree with the fact that it probably isn't beneficial when trying to appeal to newcomers to the site. However, Bitcointalk (seems to) really push for freedom of speech, and I suppose this avatar would fall under that.

Very sad to hear. I guess I'm in the wrong place with the wrong people. There is no way anybody can rationalize allowing display of this symbol without being considered terror sympathizers.

Does anyone have a swastika as their avatar here?

I'm for freedom of speech and Im not a "terror sympathizer".  Maybe you are on the wrong forum. 

[grue]

We'll see how you feel when one shows up in your thread every day and using your coin and scaring your clients and supporters away!

Just wondering, how many clients/supporters do you think he's "scaring' away?

[Abou Talha]

We'll see how you feel when one shows up in your thread every day and using your coin and scaring your clients and supporters away!

Just wondering, how many clients/supporters do you think he's "scaring' away?

Impossible to count them.

[shorena]

I understand and I'm trying to appeal to common sense from everyone on this board. This affects all of us and the crypto we're trying to promote. My argument is not legal vs illegal, I'm talking about how we are being perceived when we allow these kind of statements (terror support). No matter how you slice it, someone who displays that symbol is a supporter and whoever allows that display is a sympathizer. No way around it. All I'm asking is that we consider what we allow ourselves to be associated with. That's all.

I agree with the fact that it probably isn't beneficial when trying to appeal to newcomers to the site. However, Bitcointalk (seems to) really push for freedom of speech, and I suppose this avatar would fall under that.

Very sad to hear. I guess I'm in the wrong place with the wrong people. There is no way anybody can rationalize allowing display of this symbol without being considered terror sympathizers.

Does anyone have a swastika as their avatar here?

I'm for freedom of speech and Im not a "terror sympathizer".  Maybe you are on the wrong forum. 

I havent seen an avatar, but there are at least a couple of fascists.

[whywefight]

We'll see how you feel when one shows up in your thread every day and using your coin and scaring your clients and supporters away!

Just wondering, how many clients/supporters do you think he's "scaring' away?

Impossible to count them.

I'm glad that you enjoy the freedoms to mock.  Despite your fucked up ideology, there are people that go out of there way to allow you to do what you do. Even if it fucks other people up, they defend your rights to be a cunt in public and support killing innocent people so you can get your way.

Dont know if it was suggested before: close your topic start a new one self moderated and delete all his posts in there. Redirect all people to the new one.

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Dont know if it was suggested before: close your topic start a new one self moderated and delete all his posts in there. Redirect all people to the new one.

or just make a local rule on the current thread. some altcoin thread starters have done this before.

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Dont know if it was suggested before: close your topic start a new one self moderated and delete all his posts in there. Redirect all people to the new one.

or just make a local rule on the current thread. some altcoin thread starters have done this before.

A local rule?

local thread rule.

26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.

Those were mostly replaced by self-moderated topics, but local rules can be enforced at the moderator's discretion.

I've seen someone making a thread rule midway here though. but the OP of that thread ended up making a self-moderated thread anyway.

this will sound stupid because I brought it up. but go with self-moderated thread if you don't want to rely on the mods.

[grue]

Dont know if it was suggested before: close your topic start a new one self moderated and delete all his posts in there. Redirect all people to the new one.

or just make a local rule on the current thread. some altcoin thread starters have done this before.

A local rule?

local thread rule.

26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.

Those were mostly replaced by self-moderated topics, but local rules can be enforced at the moderator's discretion.

I've seen someone making a thread rule midway here though. but the OP of that thread ended up making a self-moderated thread anyway.

this will sound stupid because I brought it up. but go with self-moderated thread if you don't want to rely on the mods.

You would still need to create a new topic as local rules cant be applied retroactively.

Also, OP stated earlier in the topic that self-moderated topics are not an option for him, so the best choice is probably local rule. As long as the rule isn't vague and is easily decidable, moderators will enforce it.

[Beans]

The moderators are seriously concerned about protecting pedophiles and murders? They should be strung up with the rest of the ISIS loving garbage.

[entropycoin]

It should be basic common sense that an image objectively promoting hate and cruelty should be banned from a forum dedicated to anything other than hate and cruelty. 

Really deplorable inaction here mods.  Through this inaction you are aligning yourself with this criminality and undoing the work countless individuals have undertaken to eliminate the negative stereotypes of cryptocurrency. 

[grue]

The moderators are seriously concerned about protecting pedophiles and murders? They should be strung up with the rest of the ISIS loving garbage.

It should be basic common sense that an image objectively promoting hate and cruelty should be banned from a forum dedicated to anything other than hate and cruelty. 

Really deplorable inaction here mods.  Through this inaction you are aligning yourself with this criminality and undoing the work countless individuals have undertaken to eliminate the negative stereotypes of cryptocurrency. 

not doing anything about ISIS =/= promoting ISIS

[Beans]

The moderators are seriously concerned about protecting pedophiles and murders? They should be strung up with the rest of the ISIS loving garbage.

It should be basic common sense that an image objectively promoting hate and cruelty should be banned from a forum dedicated to anything other than hate and cruelty. 

Really deplorable inaction here mods.  Through this inaction you are aligning yourself with this criminality and undoing the work countless individuals have undertaken to eliminate the negative stereotypes of cryptocurrency. 

not doing anything about ISIS =/= promoting ISIS

This is a private website that's allowing ISIS propaganda. What the hell else do you call it?

[Quickseller]

The moderators are seriously concerned about protecting pedophiles and murders? They should be strung up with the rest of the ISIS loving garbage.

It should be basic common sense that an image objectively promoting hate and cruelty should be banned from a forum dedicated to anything other than hate and cruelty. 

Really deplorable inaction here mods.  Through this inaction you are aligning yourself with this criminality and undoing the work countless individuals have undertaken to eliminate the negative stereotypes of cryptocurrency. 

not doing anything about ISIS =/= promoting ISIS

This is a private website that's allowing ISIS propaganda. What the hell else do you call it?

A private website that allows the spread of information to spread freely, regardless of the accuracy and/or content of such information.
A good thing about allowing ISIS propaganda is that when an idiot tries to spread ISIS propaganda publicly, there will be a large number of sig spammers more then willing to tell such person what an idiot they are and will debunk the claims that such idiot tries to make

[entropycoin]

   by not removing the isis flag you are essentially supporting isis propaganda and in a broader sense find the promotion of hate speech, human right abuses, and ethnic cleansing perfectly acceptable on a forum dedicated to crypocurrency. 

[Arrakeen]

I can't believe you guys, obsessing over some 16 year old's shitty attempt at 'rebellion'. Just ignore him, and let him feel the embarrassment ten years from now looking back.

Or we can support him, maybe that'll get him to fly over to Turkistan and see just how great his welcoming party will be