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August 09, 2017, 03:38:48 PM
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Nice story! If 200 WAVES can guarantee him a prosperous future, I am quitting my job tomorrow as I have to plan on what to do with my 1000 WAVES.

200 btc can))) though it depends, it is not that Super big amount of money))
Maybe in 2027 1 Waves would be like 1 btc now, after some big legal companies launch their ico)))
wet dreams lol)))
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August 09, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
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Any way to dump all those worthless coins without paying 0.003 waves fee??  Selling fee is higher than the coin value? 
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August 09, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)

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August 09, 2017, 04:12:25 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)

decimals are ok, people get used to everything. You won't say "bitcoin" in 10 years (if bitcoin is ok then). You will say "satoshi" because 1 bitcoin will be too high for everyday expenditures. Same with other currencies
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August 09, 2017, 04:14:23 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

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August 09, 2017, 04:30:17 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

I dont want more junk assets that cost more money in fees to sell them than to keep them filling up my wallet.
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August 09, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

I dont want more junk assets that cost more money in fees to sell them than to keep them filling up my wallet.

I think soon you can hide them in the Lite Client.
For now, ignore unwanted tokens.

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August 09, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)
Yes, the crypto community seems to be in agreement. But less we forget, our community is still really small. Not that size implies wisdom.

Yes, that is what I was saying. If I'm completely honest, I'm having a hard time even imagining all the possibilities of token platforms like ethereum and waves. But surely, we are in the early 90's discussing the possibilities of the internet, giving examples of sending mail in minutes instead of weeks, not realizing what beast the internet will become in 25 years.

That is why I think there should be a lot of thought put in on a scale in 20-30 years time. Just look at bitcoin. It wasn't really built for this scale. And this scale is small in comparison to the number of users it's going to have in 5 years time.
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August 09, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
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Could someone help me to find Wave attachment to transfer ZRcoin to my Waves client?
Where should I look for it?

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August 09, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

I dont want more junk assets that cost more money in fees to sell them than to keep them filling up my wallet.

I think soon you can hide them in the Lite Client.
For now, ignore unwanted tokens.
How to hide them?  I can find any references in any menu..
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August 09, 2017, 06:32:36 PM
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Hi waves,
I have a question,
What did happen to btc holders of waves platform,  when hardfork ?
How did they commit bcc?

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August 09, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
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Every time developers of any project implement and add something to the platform or just the wallet, I see price going up very fast, maybe with

The speed of lightning, honestly if I believe in a project and their developers, I buy a few bags and hold them no matter what, not to sell later when

The price increases, but to have a saying in the future of that project. currently Waves is not yet near complete, and I'm sure when it will be completed

Price will skyrocket up to $50 or even more? if a few minor fixes and a small update for the lite client could push the price from $3 up to $5.9 then

Imagine what happens when we have access to the full features of Waves platform? I can predict a price rise from $5 to $20 in the first 24 hours.
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August 09, 2017, 06:44:01 PM
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Yes, the crypto community seems to be in agreement. But less we forget, our community is still really small. Not that size implies wisdom.

Yes, that is what I was saying. If I'm completely honest, I'm having a hard time even imagining all the possibilities of token platforms like ethereum and waves. But surely, we are in the early 90's discussing the possibilities of the internet, giving examples of sending mail in minutes instead of weeks, not realizing what beast the internet will become in 25 years.

That is why I think there should be a lot of thought put in on a scale in 20-30 years time. Just look at bitcoin. It wasn't really built for this scale. And this scale is small in comparison to the number of users it's going to have in 5 years time.

Yes true.  I suppose in some respects this comes down to the interests of the individual vs the community as a whole and also the dichotomy between short term and long term interests.  The bitcoin scaling debate is a good illustration of this.  This is one of the reasons why I find economics and particularly the psychology behind it fascinating!  Hopefully we will find a solution rather than ending up with future stalemates.

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August 09, 2017, 06:52:36 PM
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Hi waves,
I have a question,
What did happen to btc holders of waves platform,  when hardfork ?
How did they commit bcc?

I received an equel amount of BCC (BCH).
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August 09, 2017, 07:10:00 PM
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moon days incomıng. get ready for ıt.

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August 09, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
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Do you recieve bcc using only waves wallet? I ask because i cant see any support for bcc inside waves lite.
Or Is it possibe to get btc private key for btcw inside waves wallet?

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August 09, 2017, 07:22:46 PM
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Do you recieve bcc using only waves wallet? I ask because i cant see any support for bcc inside waves lite.
Or Is it possibe to get btc private key for btcw inside waves wallet?
Is it possible to create btc wallet using the seed from waves lite but a btc wallet e.g. bitcoin hd wallet? Same question for ether .

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August 09, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
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Not now , please let me buy more.😉

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August 09, 2017, 07:49:57 PM
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Any way to dump all those worthless coins without paying 0.003 waves fee??  Selling fee is higher than the coin value? 
find some address you can dump your worthless coins and try use 0.00000001 fee
I've seen asset transfer & simple send with fee as low as 1 wavetoshi (should we call this? Grin)
but maybe waves dev can give more explanations on tx fee official rules/consensus

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Is it possible to create btc wallet using the seed from waves lite but a btc wallet e.g. bitcoin hd wallet? Same question for ether .

No the WAVES wallet can only store WAVES or WAVES tokens.   The BTC or ETHER in the wallet is a token that represents those coins - the actual BTC/ETHER is held in a gateway.  Honestly if you are that clueless you should spend a day or two reading about how these things work.

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