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January 21, 2017, 12:37:59 PM
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I do not understand why I see consecutive proof of stake with the same value, but this is making the difficulty shoot, and I'm no longer having stacks, all my stacks are failing. Angry All stacks with the same value belong to a single wallet, maybe that is what is making so many stacks of mine fail and make the difficulty increase a lot

Nevacoin is set up to stake a full block which is currently 5 Neva. Make sure you are on the correct chain. You can receive other values when mining in a pool but staking(and solo mining) should only net you 5 Neva a stake. Neva currently has a high orphan rate.

Maybe try out poswallet.com if you have trouble solo staking.

Things should also improve after the march fork

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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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January 21, 2017, 12:39:04 PM
Last edit: January 21, 2017, 01:02:46 PM by krile
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Hi NevaCoin community.

With compliments NevaCoin for MacOSX : https://mega.nz/#!QNxSzIyR!iJqYazG4lBRhMDcMIump6pqJnBiIy1FM5JSgwoGIlH4

Kris will upload it soon on Git as well.

Have a great weekend.

#WelcomeToTheBlockChain

Tnx @staysecure. I will upload to git asap.

Edit: Uploaded: https://github.com/Nevacoin/nevacoin/releases/tag/v1.4.0

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January 21, 2017, 01:00:08 PM
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Krile, didn't you have a working link for a pi wallet?

Hi, added the nevacoin raspberry pi daemon binary.

https://github.com/Nevacoin/nevacoin/releases/tag/v1.4.0

Enjoy.

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January 21, 2017, 07:58:02 PM
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I wanted to ask whats with the blocks being (pos) generated, it is seen even in the chain, for about 2 minutes (!!!!! thats the part, not few seconds, minutes!) and then in becomes conflicted... Its really strange if you ask me.
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January 21, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
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I wanted to ask whats with the blocks being (pos) generated, it is seen even in the chain, for about 2 minutes (!!!!! thats the part, not few seconds, minutes!) and then in becomes conflicted... Its really strange if you ask me.

It gets conflicted because a bunch of nodes find a block at once, so they all have the same height. When another block is found on top of the previous block (usually a rich node signs a few blocks in a row) the block that the other node finds becomes conflicted. It sometimes takes seconds and sometimes minutes. Then it all depends how the various same height blocks are propagated around the network, sometimes you might be on a chain that confirms your block for a few minutes until your node reorganizes and syncs to the highest chain (leaving your block conflicted).

The problem is, like I said a few times before (and I could be mistaken of course) because of the stalls in the chain. The difficulty drops to fast after the chain is stuck for an hour for example. Giving a small time frame to every node that holds some coins, even small amounts to sign a block. This creates chaos in the network since a bunch of same height blocks are floating around everywhere at that moment. In this fight the best connected node usually wins + the node that has plenty of coins and manages to sign another block immediately, creating the longest chain.

After the fork this should stabilize.

But people need to realize one thing. I am being bombarded with this question. People say they are "losing coins" with conflicted stakes.

The rules of the network are simple, get 25 confirmations on top of your block and the coins are yours. If you do not get 25 confirmations, you do not get the coins and you did not lose the coins, you never got them, they were never yours. Those 5 coins you "almost" staked existed only locally in your wallet and did not make it into the longest chain.

If anybody expects that you will stake more after the fork that is wrong. You will stake exactly the same, you will just see less conflicted stakes in the wallet. That is it. It will probably get even harder to get a stake since you will not even get this chance to get a low difficulty chance so often.

I could solve this right now with a simple tweak in the wallet (without a fork), to not display stakes that do not have n-confirmations already. But that would be the easy way and would not optimize the network in any way, it would just make this issue invisible and maybe stop the annoying questions (and I am not talking about you Draax, its the PMs I get) Smiley




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January 22, 2017, 06:11:07 AM
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i never said i am losing coins Cheesy dont get me wrong you are doing a great job and its all good. We all trying for the good.
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January 22, 2017, 06:23:56 AM
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Some people say this coin won't last because it's just another "alt" coin and because of the 13 year POS timeframe.. well for me at least I'm holding my 500 coins until then. See you beautiful people in 13 years. TO LOVE!

/Nemdf

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January 22, 2017, 09:25:14 AM
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Some people say this coin won't last because it's just another "alt" coin and because of the 13 year POS timeframe.. well for me at least I'm holding my 500 coins until then. See you beautiful people in 13 years. TO LOVE!

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Well I also never said it would last. Its a fun experiment and I am learning a lot from it Smiley

I do think though that it is unique and might have a bright future with the blake2s algo and the different reward structue than 99% of alts. But sadly the main "app" in cryptocurrencyes is still speculation, its all a gamble Smiley

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January 22, 2017, 09:26:43 AM
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i never said i am losing coins Cheesy dont get me wrong you are doing a great job and its all good. We all trying for the good.

I know, I just used the reply your post for this extended rant. It was not directed at you Smiley

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January 23, 2017, 01:53:24 AM
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January 23, 2017, 06:11:05 AM
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i never said i am losing coins Cheesy dont get me wrong you are doing a great job and its all good. We all trying for the good.

I know, I just used the reply your post for this extended rant. It was not directed at you Smiley

Hey not a problem and congrats on the coin, personally I think 13 years is a really cool thing to look forward to, sure in reality alt coins are a huge gamble and many do die, but like you said if the Blake Alg and crypto/btc continue to rise, and if the coin has something to offer, there's a very good chance we will still see many of the alt coins today, and hopefully at a much higher price. Hell if anyone can replicate to a small degree what bitcoin miners did at the beginning with some alts in a way, would be so awesome.

It would be cool to see some sort of POS Reward every year or two though, maybe as an incentive to stick with the coin for the 13 year run, again not sure if that's even possible to do something like once a year, but well done none the less. Smiley

Best,
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January 23, 2017, 09:07:39 AM
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i never said i am losing coins Cheesy dont get me wrong you are doing a great job and its all good. We all trying for the good.

I know, I just used the reply your post for this extended rant. It was not directed at you Smiley

Hey not a problem and congrats on the coin, personally I think 13 years is a really cool thing to look forward to, sure in reality alt coins are a huge gamble and many do die, but like you said if the Blake Alg and crypto/btc continue to rise, and if the coin has something to offer, there's a very good chance we will still see many of the alt coins today, and hopefully at a much higher price. Hell if anyone can replicate to a small degree what bitcoin miners did at the beginning with some alts in a way, would be so awesome.

It would be cool to see some sort of POS Reward every year or two though, maybe as an incentive to stick with the coin for the 13 year run, again not sure if that's even possible to do something like once a year, but well done none the less. Smiley

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My attempt was a slow growth coin that can be mined even with a cpu for a considerable time to ensure a good distribution to as many people.

A quick pump and the difficulty going through the roof was never the plan.

So almost a year later as far as I am concerned the goal was achieved.

The plan to attract the female population failed so far, will have to do some different kind of marketing on that part Cheesy

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January 24, 2017, 12:40:59 AM
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Wonderful!
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January 24, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
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Jaspion!
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January 26, 2017, 07:22:00 AM
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krile, not to be a downer on your paid for version of ccminer but you should probably list this version on the opening page: https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases/tag/1.8.4-tpruvot It has a good increase in hash rate.
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January 26, 2017, 09:31:06 PM
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krile, not to be a downer on your paid for version of ccminer but you should probably list this version on the opening page: https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases/tag/1.8.4-tpruvot It has a good increase in hash rate.

What paid version? I never payed for ccminer Smiley

You must have confused that with the attempt to fund a purchase of an AMD miner, but exactly 0 people contributed so nothing happened there Cheesy

Anyway, I will update the link, this time to just this: https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases/

...without the version tag, so the newest version will always be on top.


Edit: I see why you got that idea, that post was quoted from the "dev" of oxencoin (that forked nevacoin) and this guy payed for it I guess..

Blake2s GPU miner is now available, I've paid for:
 Source: https://github.com/oxencoin/ccminer-blake2s
Happy Mining!

So yes to everyone, this version quoted above is obsolete. Use the one in the OP

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January 26, 2017, 09:56:24 PM
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it was a scammer who asked me a binary early while i was coding it... dont remember the coin name, but the windows wallet was a trojan if i remember right

paid = 0.05 btc if i remember right (before BTC rise)

edit: ah right i see the coin name in the link Wink

BTC: 1FhDPLPpw18X4srecguG3MxJYe4a1JsZnd - My Projects: ccminer - cpuminer-multi - yiimp - Forum threads : ccminer - cpuminer-multi - yiimp
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January 26, 2017, 11:24:55 PM
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Edit: I see why you got that idea, that post was quoted from the "dev" of oxencoin (that forked nevacoin) and this guy payed for it I guess..

Blake2s GPU miner is now available, I've paid for:
 Source: https://github.com/oxencoin/ccminer-blake2s
Happy Mining!

So yes to everyone, this version quoted above is obsolete. Use the one in the OP
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Yeah, that was my confusion. I thought the whole mention of oxencoin in there seemed weird... I see you also cleaned up the OP a little, looks good.
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January 27, 2017, 07:02:51 AM
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Yeah, that was my confusion. I thought the whole mention of oxencoin in there seemed weird... I see you also cleaned up the OP a little, looks good.

Yes, it was about time.  I have to clean it up further, move some of the specs to the website and leave only the crucial here on btctalk.

Thank you for the notice on the obsolete miner link btw Smiley

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January 27, 2017, 09:27:50 AM
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Say hello to NevaCoin Beta for android  Wink


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