SCAMMER - username : BITCOINMAR - Profile ID : 452003 - SCAMMED 550 EUR

[PowerSEOService]

BE AWARE OF THIS SCAMMER ! AND PLEASE BAN HIM !

SCAMMER PROFILE :   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452003

SKYPE NAME : Gold Bitcoin

HIS EMAIL : goldbitcoin99@gmail.com

I have just registered to post this scammer profile here.

Couple days ago i did an exchange with him through a friend ( dont know if he is also involved yet ) called Martin for 550 EURS SKRILL for BTC !

We did the exchange ( proof and chat logs below ) only to see 2 days later that the PAYMENTS on SKRILL were CANCELED and money REFUNDED to HIM !!! I lost my 550 EUR BTC !

FIRST 2 EXCHANGES done over the user "aMartin99"

150 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e

200 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/69d324992488a08c9632f43d7408f5f0


CHAT LOGS OF SKYPE CHAT FOR REST 200 EUR:

https://gyazo.com/d3a3c1a7a4e6d9083e700abb8ca516e6
https://gyazo.com/07b4da3a679cee1a8156238e86707f85
https://gyazo.com/73dbc343fda9201918b24806fd32312b
https://gyazo.com/d4b8595077d1ae949c5f44370a19cbb5
https://gyazo.com/b709ff6e66b969b785e224dbb5850d1c
https://gyazo.com/d0b3bb51738f87d6a6df353f8a3ea322
https://gyazo.com/c96cb5e9196a72e061027ddd3bf4e6bb
https://gyazo.com/b9f6d1ff290527bb390cdd97520ce70d
https://gyazo.com/6fdef01fe33046331671d67167bba6e1
https://gyazo.com/9c03555e4b26742fd94adb939c25169a


PAYMENT CANCELED AND HIS EMAIL ADDRESS :

https://gyazo.com/5ece22f3dac80273021682e8bb6c7ca0

BTC ADD THAT MONEY WERE SENT TO ( STILL ACTIVE I SEE ) :

https://blockchain.info/address/17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

Payments :
https://blockchain.info/tx/888773b7a41b935ce3391a5862db2198d2d66261ade844fed46bbc342598ed95
https://blockchain.info/tx/67a021c1ccd55e47fe07eaae31aeb9425700ffc8853a79af4e4ef438506980a2
https://blockchain.info/tx/87848bdd17ddf6393488b4ce58e5b3190ae2c7fd79a91b713eb8a63f2b7c1a5a
https://blockchain.info/tx/56661befd75bed0e9b645c8a95b93c70474673409d9304fd791fd86123abcec0

IF ADMINS WANT CAN JOIN OVER TEAMVIEW TO CONFIRM THIS SO THEY CAN BAN THIS SCAMMER !

GOOGLE SEARCH OF HIS EMAIL : goldbitcoin99@gmail.com -  https://gyazo.com/ac3849e5680b85a152d5fdd9b796dc19
FOUNDS THIS THREAD : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1090571
HIS POST AND EMAIL : https://gyazo.com/d0d2a6d0453f4eedfb74c74123abfff4

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THESE SCAMMERS ! THEY ARE RUINING THE TRUST IN BTC EXCHANGES AND ARE PARASITES TO THE BTC COMMUNITY !  KARMA WILL CATCH UP WITH HIM I AM SURE BUT I HOPE BITCOINTALK ADMINS WILL ALSO !

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[amartin99]

I am the martin he is referring to
no I am not involved in any scam

he came to me wanting more Skrill then I had
I asked BITCOINMAR if he could take the trade
I had traded with BITCOINMAR in the past and all went well
BITCOINMAR has been helping me a lot over the last couple weeks since I started into trading
and "PowerSEOService" has been a good friend in the past
as with everything trust is difficult when $ gets involved
I don't blame him for being angry and pointing some at me

he did show me a screan shot of the charge back
looks like it was a CC payment that later got reversed by the CC
I hope this is just a problem with the CC due to the large payment
but who trades using a CC anyway
unless they really need the money

[bitcoinmar]

I was away with some serious personal problems today Just came and now checking this all as I check my Skrill account I also lost all my payment without any reason need some time to check what happen and how happen as I have all information about this then I will reply about this

[PowerSEOService]

I was away with some serious personal problems today Just came and now checking this all as I check my Skrill account I also lost all my payment without any reason need some time to check what happen and how happen as I have all information about this then I will reply about this

DONT LIE, this WAS CANCELED SINCE 1-2 DAYS AGO ! ITS NOT FROM TODAY !

https://gyazo.com/e0bee513a002621f5507e1a7537bd118

AND I TALKED TO SKRILL ! ONLY WAY FOR PAYMENT TO BE CANCELED IS IF YOU REQUESTED IT OR DID CHARGEBACK FROM YOUR CC !

YOU TOOK MONEY ON YOUR BTC ADD AND YOU PAID ME FROM YOUR SKRILL ADDRESS AS CLEARLY SEEN ABOVE !

AND SINCE YOU ADMIT ITS YOUR PROBLEM REFUND THE BTC THAT I HAVE SENT YOU THAN !

[PowerSEOService]

And i am digging more info about you, just found some other information as well !

Will update this thread with all information i collect !

[amartin99]

from what I understand bitcoinmar had a third party that was buying the BTC with skrill and he was acting as a middle man
I sorta was to (putting them together) but I wasn't handling any money or taking any cut

im wondering if the $550 hopping from account to account then being withdrawn to a visa card may have razed a red flag at Skrill and they reversed all the transactions
has anyone had any experience with Skrill to comment on that possibility ?

[amartin99]

bitcoinmar show'd me a couple images of his Skyp
ill let him show them if he decides to (not my place to post images of someone else s skrill account)

anyway it looks to me like skrill themselves have attacked bitcoinmar
likely cause of his trading

I don't think there is any scamming going on here
just skrill reversing all of bitcoinmar's recent transactions

[PowerSEOService]

bitcoinmar show'd me a couple images of his Skyp
ill let him show them if he decides to (not my place to post images of someone else s skrill account)

anyway it looks to me like skrill themselves have attacked bitcoinmar
likely cause of his trading

I don't think there is any scamming going on here
just skrill reversing all of bitcoinmar's recent transactions

Now turns out account is attacked ?!?

I call this a bunch of BULLSHIT !

I don't think there is any scamming going on here

I dont know even what to say to this.

And bitcoinmar is talking to YOU on skype but he is not talking to ME / ignoring me

This is getting even more suspicious.

As Exchangers you need to take responsibility for your deals/actions. I dont care if his CC got limited or he had chargeback ( which is all bullshit btw ).  

And you both as excahngers since you talk to each other, make your deal and i expect a refund of my BTC or payment done on Skrill in next 24h.

BTC ADDRESS : 15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU

[amartin99]

Ok near as I can tell this would seem to be the pattern of events

Someone hacked a Skrill account then posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384251.0
One of my off forum trade partners asked me for a large trade of BTC for Skrill
I didn’t have any BTC at the time so I asked “BITCOINMAR” if he could manage it
He having seen that thread said yes and so I connected him and my guy
They did a trade and both BTC and Skrill where sent
Then the Skrill accounts real owner re-took control of it and got his Skrill returned to him
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335

Skrill themselves then considering bitcoinmar a scammer or something canceled many other recent transactions and wiped out his skrill balance

My trader “PoWERSEOService’ then came back to me screaming that he got ripped off
And in a way he has been
As has “BITCOINMAR“ though he was the one that chose to act as a middle man for a person making what was likely his very first post in this forum

The only person with morally wrong intent was the person that hacked the Skrill account in the first place
But is seems both the BTC and Skrill are gone now


I would like to re-iterate that I didn’t actually do any of this trade
I have not handled any of the money
All I did was tell 2 people about each other

[PowerSEOService]

I would like to re-iterate that I didn’t actually do any of this trade
I have not handled any of the money
All I did was tell 2 people about each other

You handled the first 2 payments ! You sent me where to send btc and i sent you my skrill ID. After that you started the skype group chat.

I can post chat proof if you want ??

I dont know if you took commission on this or not, and buddy i dont care honestly because basically YOU and your friend BITCOINMAR acted like a MIDDLEMAN in this deal ! And i only went through with this because i trusted you.

As MIDDLEMAN you both need to take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions, i dont care if you/he made deal with member with 1 post or 100000 posts, i also dont care if he got hacked/ or someone he worked with got hacked/ or if its all bullshit, that is none of my business.

I sent you/him BTC as agreed, and kept my end of the DEAL ! In the END i got scammed.

And as i can see you are still talking to him, and he still HAS NOT responded to my msgs and continue to ignore me which makes this whole deal even more suspicious. He is even online and i am guessing he is reading this thread but he has not responded here also so far  but he is talking with you on Skype and you are telling his story here instead of him ? or are you setting up the make up for his scam, so he can come here later and say hey i got hacked ??

Whatever it is expect full REFUND or Payment on Skrill on this matter.

The BTC ADDRESS is posted above or you have my Skrill account.

[amartin99]

at first I was planing to hide you 2 from each-others identity so I could be sure to trade with you myself later
you have a lot of BTC and I was planning to do a lot of trading using you as my source for BTC
then you 2 where sanding so many messages back and forth I just didn't have time so I opened a group chat and just let you deal with each other directly
that may have been after I gave you his BTC address im not sure now
but go ahead and check your logs and you will find that the BTC address didn't change
I didn't have you send me some and him some
I got nothing


I had 2 interests in this trade
A I wanted to get you what you needed so you would keep coming back (got a lot of BTC and I wanted to be your trader)
B I wanted to repay "BITCOINMAR" for all the trades he has sent me (been trying really hard to help me get established here)
I figured with one good trade I could accomplish both goals
but you 2 wanted to chat to much and I had other work to do so I stopped functioning as a middle man (even for your chatting)
and let you 2 deal directly

[amartin99]

you seem to think you can force me to cover this trade because I have deeper pockets
well yea I likely could scrape together enough $ to pay you off
but I did not guaranty this trade
all I did was put you together with someone I had traded with in that past and considered trust worthy

im sorry for what has happened but I didn't know there was 4th person involved till I saw you asking him just how many people where involved in the trade
you knew at that point that I had not vouched for the 4th person
I had no idea who it even was

[amartin99]

suchmoon
IM the one that brot up the Skrill hack and you leave me a neg accusing me of doing it ?

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

[mangox]

crooks need to ban and inform the public

[PowerSEOService]

that may have been after I gave you his BTC address im not sure now
but go ahead and check your logs and you will find that the BTC address didn't change

You did the first 2 exchanges, i had no idea who was in this deal or what was your arrangement for commission with him :

150 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e

200 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/69d324992488a08c9632f43d7408f5f0

And i still find it very suspicious that you are still responding in his name here and explaining his problems  + you are talking with him on skype and he is still ignoring me.

all I did was put you together with someone I had traded with in that past and considered trust worthy

I wanted paypal, you were the one offered me the skrill deal :

https://gyazo.com/00deb1cd0972b2d551562885f834cd45

https://gyazo.com/bad1952e9178731da4784cb6913a1ce0

And me forcing you ? NO, i just want you/him as exchangers/middleman`s to take responsibility of your actions.

You can not negotiate a deal as middleman and if the deal goes sideways just say "hey sorry for your loose i wasnt the one sending the money".

I just want what is rightfully mine THAT IS my money back, since i kept my end of the deal.

So again since you are talking with him, i expect this to be sorted out and get refund on my BTC address above or my skrill account.

[suchmoon]

suchmoon
IM the one that brot up the Skrill hack and you leave me a neg accusing me of doing it ?

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

I didn't accuse you of hacking, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.

The OP got scammed and needs to be refunded. You seem to be good buddies with bitcoinmar (who is suspiciously silent) so figure out how you two will refund the OP. After that I will consider revising the feedback to neutral.

[amartin99]

(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean

[Mickeyb]

even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore

Sure, bitcointalk is better off without the scumbags like you who can't take responsibilities for their action. Why are you still even here?

[suchmoon]

(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean

Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.

[PowerSEOService]

crooks need to ban and inform the public

I love btc, have been working with BTC almost as soon as they came out so scammers like this make me sick, and are parasites of the btc community. They give bitcoins a bad reputation referencing them only to HACKS and SCAMS thus slowing the btc community growth. They need to be rooted out.

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

Trust me, i know about bitcointalk LONG before you do, and i found the scammer profile and thread form google based on his email address even before you sent it to me, leading me to this scam report.

I didn't accuse you of hacking, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.

The OP got scammed and needs to be refunded. You seem to be good buddies with bitcoinmar (who is suspiciously silent) so figure out how you two will refund the OP. After that I will consider revising the feedback to neutral.

Thank your for the assistance, i always found bitcointalk community very friendly ( have been a lurker for long time ).
Sadly to see that a "scam report" is my first thread here and was the reason to open an account.

Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.

https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e


Point is if you want to be exchanger or middleman, you need to know the consequences of making this kind of deals. I have exchanged god knows how many bitcoins, and have been scammed in the past, but i dont blame anyone for it and i take full responsibility since i was the one managing the deal directly.

And this can be resolved very quickly. Since you talk with bitcoinmar and you say that BITCOINMAR account got "hacked" and his money were lost ( before you told me his account was locked and it turned out to be working but nvm ), i will settle for 50% refund just to get this SHIT over with.

[amartin99]

(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean

Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.

probably but I don't recall
I do recall taking screen shots of there comets and posting them back and forth to each other
till it got to be to much work and I just joined them into a group chat
he knew full well that I was just making a connection
I did the same thing for him with another guy yesterday
in that trade I did offer to guarantee it because I have known the other trader over a year
and if there is a problem with the PP I will make it right
but I made no such promise to cover "BITCOINMAR"

[amartin99]

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

Trust me, i know about bitcointalk LONG before you do, and i found the scammer profile and thread form google based on his email address even before you sent it to me, leading me to this scam report.

point is I told you to post this thread before you did
maybe you knew maybe not it don't matter cause I was telling you to
I gave you the the forum address
I gave you BITCOINMAR's profile link (you know him only under a dif name in skype)

maybe you would have come in on your own but you DIDN'T

[suchmoon]

probably but I don't recall
I do recall taking screen shots of there comets and posting them back and forth to each other
till it got to be to much work and I just joined them into a group chat
he knew full well that I was just making a connection
I did the same thing for him with another guy yesterday
in that trade I did offer to guarantee it because I have known the other trader over a year
and if there is a problem with the PP I will make it right
but I made no such promise to cover "BITCOINMAR"

Then post those screenshots and/or chat logs, starting from the beginning of your conversation with the OP. All the evidence presented so far points to you being the initial contact, providing the payment address etc. Post the full conversation from your end and highlight the parts that you think absolve you from the responsibility for the deal.

[PowerSEOService]

Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.

probably but I don't recall

Let me refresh your memory : https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e

Dont try to step out of the deal, because the first 2 exchanges were done over you on skype :

You did the first 2 exchanges, i had no idea who was in this deal or what was your arrangement for commission with him :

150 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e

200 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/69d324992488a08c9632f43d7408f5f0

Rest 200 EUR were sent on the skype chat YOU created.

And where is your "friend" why is he not responding to this thread ? He was online just a while ago and i am pretty sure he read this thread since he discussed it with you on skype.

https://i.gyazo.com/e41bfbf35915ad0c3ced53b8b303113f.png

[amartin99]

One last comment before I go do something else for a while

If I were a scammer as everyone wants to think
Why would I give him the forum URL?
Why would I give him BITCOINMAR's profile link?
Why would I speak up in this thread?

The deal was fully on skype
IF I was trying to scam him why would I bother to take it past skype
He didn’t know BITCOINMAR's forum ID
He didn’t know BITCOINMAR was even a member of this forum
he had no proof of anything without my help

and the idea that I should cover his loss is just Ludacris and you all know it
there isn’t one person on this forum that in my place would pay out $550 from his own pocket


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so much for last thought
you knew full well you where trade with someone else and I was just making the connection
as for bitcomer he has gone offline again
he did read it but is all depressed cause his mother is in the hospital and this forum is his only source of income
I have likely don't him a disservice by responding to this thread at all
but im not the silent type

[amartin99]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

[PowerSEOService]

One last comment before I go do something else for a while

If I were a scammer as everyone wants to think
Why would I give him the forum URL?
Why would I give him BITCOINMAR's profile link?
Why would I speak up in this thread?

The deal was fully on skype
IF I was trying to scam him why would I bother to take it past skype
He didn’t know BITCOINMAR's forum ID
He didn’t know BITCOINMAR was even a member of this forum
he had no proof of anything without my help

Before you even sent me anything on skype i did a search for his email address on google when i saw the payment got canceled so i can try to collect as much information as possible about this as any normal person would do :

https://gyazo.com/2efed37d60ee35c5c8e5134fc7eefe6d --- his email on the skrill payment
https://gyazo.com/9c31b9ffc05fed0adb4e6a0d2436b731 --- google search, first post is bitcointalk where i found his profile.

And when i asked you to send me the other guy profile link this thread was already in making.

And i think the first reason for speaking up on this thread is first to try to make a "make up story" with the "hacked account" and the second reason is to exempt yourself from this deal in which you clearly have been involved in.

you knew full well you where trade with someone else and I was just making the connection

I did the first 2 exchanges with you as a MIDDLEMAN between ME and your "Other guy" which i didnt knew nothing about nor did i asked nothing about him since i trusted you for this deal.

[xetsr]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Don't see why full chat is needed. It's pretty simple: Did he know you were acting as a man in the middle or was he under the impression he was dealing with you direct?

Sorry if I missed a post or two above.

[suchmoon]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Code:

[2/28/2016 10:41:19 AM] Power SEO Service: I have BTC
[2/28/2016 10:41:27 AM] Power SEO Service: i need paypal
[2/28/2016 10:56:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ok I can do that trade for you
[2/28/2016 10:56:43 AM] Martin Nesbitt: got about 200EU I can convert from PP to BTC
[2/28/2016 2:04:35 PM] Power SEO Service: How about we chnage now 100-150$
[2/28/2016 2:04:37 PM] Power SEO Service: rest later
[2/28/2016 2:22:40 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you want Paypal for BTC right ?
[2/28/2016 2:53:16 PM] Power SEO Service: yes
[2/28/2016 2:54:48 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok I have $278 USD in PP rate now
[2/28/2016 2:55:55 PM] Power SEO Service: ok can we excahnge 150$ now ?
[2/28/2016 2:56:09 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yes
[2/28/2016 2:56:23 PM] Power SEO Service: ok send me your btc address
[2/28/2016 2:57:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: 1HGsjeXg9eniyRWiqtU81MgaE5j7NUautT
[2/28/2016 2:57:40 PM] Power SEO Service: sent 150$
[2/28/2016 2:58:55 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/1HGsjeXg9eniyRWiqtU81MgaE5j7NUautT
[2/28/2016 2:59:01 PM] Power SEO Service: paypal address : payment@moneyers.net
[2/28/2016 2:59:03 PM] Martin Nesbitt: checking
[2/28/2016 2:59:09 PM] Martin Nesbitt: talking to 3 people at once here hehehe
[2/28/2016 3:00:28 PM] Power SEO Service: ok check
[2/28/2016 3:00:36 PM] Martin Nesbitt: moving so fast here we forgot to descuss Fee's
[2/28/2016 3:00:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im charging 5%
[2/28/2016 3:00:43 PM] Martin Nesbitt: is that opk ?
[2/28/2016 3:00:51 PM] Martin Nesbitt: O and got your 150$
[2/28/2016 3:01:15 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[2/28/2016 3:02:39 PM] Martin Nesbitt: so $142.5
[2/28/2016 3:02:42 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[2/28/2016 3:02:44 PM] Martin Nesbitt: where do I send it ?
[2/28/2016 3:02:48 PM] Power SEO Service: payment@moneyers.net
[2/28/2016 3:05:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: now I have 4 people trying to talk to me
[2/28/2016 3:05:08 PM] Martin Nesbitt: anyway  I just sent the payment
[2/28/2016 3:05:22 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this PP account has no option to send as a gift though  http://prntscr.com/a94msh
[2/28/2016 3:05:58 PM] Power SEO Service: ok recived
[2/28/2016 3:06:01 PM] Power SEO Service: have to go
[2/28/2016 3:06:06 PM] Power SEO Service: will msg you later for 100$ more
[2/28/2016 3:06:07 PM] Power SEO Service: ok ?
[2/28/2016 3:07:21 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok but I may have to get some other funds moved first
[2/28/2016 7:10:28 PM] Martin Nesbitt: what BTC fee's do you set cause your payment was instently usable to me but when I sent it on to another it's sat for about 5 hours just saying unconfirmed
[2/28/2016 9:08:07 PM] Power SEO Service: With normal fee
[2/28/2016 9:08:23 PM] Power SEO Service: sometimes if network is overused transactions can take longer for confirmation
[3/1/2016 4:55:09 PM] Martin Nesbitt: got a 4 day old ticket waiting on you  https://www.giga-rdp.ca/ifh3456duvh/supporttickets.php?action=view&id=26792
[3/1/2016 6:45:01 PM] Power SEO Service: It was answered
[3/1/2016 6:45:03 PM] Power SEO Service: in this ticket already
[3/1/2016 6:45:04 PM] Power SEO Service: https://www.giga-rdp.ca/ifh3456duvh/supporttickets.php?action=view&id=25368
[3/1/2016 6:45:13 PM] Power SEO Service: he just double opened
[3/1/2016 8:08:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok then close it or something to make it leave the list
[3/1/2016 8:41:02 PM] Power SEO Service: i responded
[3/1/2016 8:41:05 PM] Power SEO Service: to that one also
[3/1/2016 8:41:20 PM] Power SEO Service: pointing to the old ticket
[3/1/2016 9:23:07 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok
[3/2/2016 2:54:43 PM] Power SEO Service: need btc ?
[3/2/2016 2:54:52 PM] Power SEO Service: have 4000$ in stock
[3/2/2016 5:23:52 PM] Martin Nesbitt: wow  can you take PP for it ?
[3/2/2016 5:24:20 PM] Power SEO Service: yeah but not at 1:1 excahnge rate budd, it costs me way to much fees to withdraw paypal
[3/2/2016 5:24:22 PM] Power SEO Service: and as you saw
[3/2/2016 5:24:26 PM] Power SEO Service: bitcoins are far worthy
[3/2/2016 5:24:29 PM] Power SEO Service: and demanded
[3/2/2016 5:24:53 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yea
[3/2/2016 5:25:07 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure what % I should be charging for BTC
[3/2/2016 5:25:15 PM] Power SEO Service: normal rate is 10-15%
[3/2/2016 5:26:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: hmmm
[3/2/2016 5:26:27 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you interested in skrill ?
[3/2/2016 5:26:57 PM] Power SEO Service: How much skrill do you have ?
[3/2/2016 5:27:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: not me some trader im being told about
[3/2/2016 5:27:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I dono any details yet
[3/2/2016 5:33:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok he wants 1.33 BTC that is worth €521 EUR and offering 535EUR in skrill
[3/2/2016 5:35:43 PM] Martin Nesbitt: hello ?
[3/2/2016 5:35:51 PM] Power SEO Service: yes i am here
[3/2/2016 5:36:14 PM] Power SEO Service: the % is low
[3/2/2016 5:36:15 PM] Martin Nesbitt: got a response or counter offer ?
[3/2/2016 5:36:18 PM] Power SEO Service: yes wait
[3/2/2016 5:37:39 PM] Power SEO Service: 1.33 btc = 550EUR in skrill
[3/2/2016 5:37:45 PM] Power SEO Service: 5%
[3/2/2016 5:37:48 PM] Power SEO Service: commision
[3/2/2016 5:38:02 PM] Power SEO Service: because i spend 2% on withdrawal fee also
[3/2/2016 5:38:22 PM] Martin Nesbitt: so you want 550EU skrill
[3/2/2016 5:38:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ?
[3/2/2016 5:39:19 PM] Power SEO Service: yes
[3/2/2016 5:39:21 PM] Power SEO Service: for 1.33 btc
[3/2/2016 5:39:32 PM] Power SEO Service: the market price at this moment
[3/2/2016 5:39:36 PM] Power SEO Service: every hour the price is changing
[3/2/2016 5:39:41 PM] Power SEO Service: so next hour price can be different
[3/2/2016 5:40:10 PM] Martin Nesbitt: where are you getting the value from ?
[3/2/2016 5:40:17 PM] Power SEO Service: btc-e
[3/2/2016 5:40:34 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he has agree'd  wants your skrill address
[3/2/2016 5:41:16 PM] Power SEO Service: martinco_pp@hotmail.com
[3/2/2016 5:42:43 PM] Martin Nesbitt: the BTC address is 17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq
[3/2/2016 5:43:09 PM] Power SEO Service: ok waiting for confirmation on my skrill account
[3/2/2016 5:43:35 PM] Power SEO Service: when i see funds will send btc
[3/2/2016 5:44:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: and he says he is waiting for BTC
[3/2/2016 5:44:23 PM] Martin Nesbitt: someone gona have to go first
[3/2/2016 5:44:32 PM] Power SEO Service: BTC = IREVERSABLE
[3/2/2016 5:44:38 PM] Power SEO Service: first Skrill than BTC
[3/2/2016 5:44:42 PM] Power SEO Service: make that perfectly clear
[3/2/2016 5:46:09 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have traded with him server times now without problems but as I am not taking a cut in this it's not for me to say
[3/2/2016 5:46:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: is true in both your cases
[3/2/2016 5:47:05 PM] Power SEO Service: Buddy when i send BTC there is no chance in the world i can do a chargeback or refund
[3/2/2016 5:47:10 PM] Power SEO Service: that is why when excahnging BTC
[3/2/2016 5:47:12 PM] Power SEO Service: never go first
[3/2/2016 5:47:17 PM] Power SEO Service: just a tip for you
[3/2/2016 5:47:34 PM] Martin Nesbitt: same is true with skrill actually
[3/2/2016 5:47:43 PM] Power SEO Service: Not completly
[3/2/2016 5:47:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: according to there site anyway
[3/2/2016 5:47:52 PM] Power SEO Service: Skrill can be opened with fake Credit Cards
[3/2/2016 5:47:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: they want to be informed but wont take any actions
[3/2/2016 5:47:57 PM] Power SEO Service: and if he pay with it
[3/2/2016 5:48:05 PM] Power SEO Service: than the owner can do a chargeback
[3/2/2016 5:48:11 PM] Power SEO Service: resulting in skrill banning both accounts
[3/2/2016 5:48:14 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yea I guess
[3/2/2016 5:48:22 PM] Power SEO Service: so its not that simple like btc
[3/2/2016 5:48:28 PM] Power SEO Service: there is no currency on the market that is like btc
[3/2/2016 5:51:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he is rebooting his computer
[3/2/2016 5:57:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok he is going first with 150EU
[3/2/2016 5:58:28 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/2/2016 5:58:35 PM] Martin Nesbitt: sent
[3/2/2016 5:58:56 PM] Power SEO Service: Balance
USD 0.00 available
[3/2/2016 5:59:01 PM] Power SEO Service: lets wait
[3/2/2016 5:59:27 PM] Martin Nesbitt: saying it was sent
[3/2/2016 5:59:48 PM] Power SEO Service: recived
[3/2/2016 5:59:54 PM] Power SEO Service: sending 143$ in bitcoins now
[3/2/2016 6:04:22 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he is complaining you sent USD when he sent EUR
[3/2/2016 6:05:41 PM] Power SEO Service: my bad , needed to send 7$ more
[3/2/2016 6:05:59 PM] Power SEO Service: will send on next excahnge
[3/2/2016 6:06:01 PM] Power SEO Service: forgot sorry
[3/2/2016 6:08:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he is sending another 200EU
[3/2/2016 6:09:16 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/2/2016 6:12:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: did you install chrome cause it's not in english
[3/2/2016 6:12:48 PM] Martin Nesbitt: and cursed thing is auto loading to my skrill and freelancer acocunts
[3/2/2016 6:12:56 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ah wrong person
[3/2/2016 6:12:59 PM] Power SEO Service: :)
[3/2/2016 6:15:44 PM] Martin Nesbitt: the 200 is sent
[3/2/2016 6:15:54 PM] Power SEO Service: sending
[3/2/2016 6:15:58 PM] Power SEO Service: 207 usd
[3/2/2016 6:16:11 PM] Power SEO Service: 200 for now and 7 from before
[3/2/2016 6:16:26 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/tx/67a021c1ccd55e47fe07eaae31aeb9425700ffc8853a79af4e4ef438506980a2
[3/2/2016 6:16:28 PM] Power SEO Service: sent
[3/2/2016 6:16:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he sent EUR again
[3/2/2016 6:16:44 PM] Power SEO Service: yes 200 eur is 210 USD
[3/2/2016 6:16:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you send 207USD you will be behind again
[3/2/2016 6:16:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok
[3/2/2016 6:16:59 PM] Power SEO Service: 210USD = 200 BTC  ( 5% )
[3/2/2016 6:17:12 PM] Power SEO Service: + 7$ from transaction before
[3/2/2016 6:18:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: i send total 354 with fees
but received just 321
[3/2/2016 6:18:14 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq
[3/2/2016 6:18:20 PM] Power SEO Service: recived 350$ in btc man
[3/2/2016 6:18:32 PM] Power SEO Service: check the address
[3/2/2016 6:18:33 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq
[3/2/2016 6:18:48 PM] *** Martin Nesbitt created a group conversation with Gold Bitcoin.
Show group conversation ***
[3/2/2016 6:50:43 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he feels your still low by 0.036
[3/2/2016 6:50:50 PM] Power SEO Service: 1.33479028 BTC
[3/2/2016 6:50:52 PM] Power SEO Service: on his account
[3/2/2016 6:50:56 PM] Power SEO Service: what the fuck
[3/2/2016 6:51:00 PM] Power SEO Service: i still owe him ?
[3/2/2016 6:51:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I dono
[3/2/2016 6:51:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: was to much chatting I stoped watching cause had work to do
[3/2/2016 6:51:28 PM] Power SEO Service: no hard feelings but please dont ask me for excahnge again
[3/2/2016 6:51:58 PM] Power SEO Service: He got 1.33479028 BTC on his account
[3/2/2016 6:52:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: up to you I was just sending mass emails
[3/2/2016 6:52:05 PM] Power SEO Service: i am in loss
[3/2/2016 6:52:08 PM] Power SEO Service: not him
[3/2/2016 6:52:14 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq
[3/2/2016 6:52:30 PM] Power SEO Service: up to you I was just sending mass emailsok thanks
[3/2/2016 6:53:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I didn't even take any cut in this  I just made the connection
[3/2/2016 6:53:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you have both always dealt honestly with me
[3/2/2016 6:53:41 PM] Power SEO Service: Usual rate to charge for btc excahnge is 10% , i did this for 5% only because of you
[3/2/2016 6:53:50 PM] Power SEO Service: and i got in loos and in the end i owe him money ?
[3/2/2016 6:53:51 PM] Power SEO Service: its a joke
[3/2/2016 6:54:16 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he is not saying that now
[3/2/2016 6:54:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: said you just sent more
[3/2/2016 7:15:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he says he made 2.5EUR on this deal (550EU being moved  bade deal for both of you it seems)
[3/2/2016 7:15:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: sorry if there are any hard feelings between us
[3/2/2016 7:16:05 PM] Martin Nesbitt: frustrating thing is I wasn't even trying to make any profit here
[3/2/2016 7:16:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just connecting 2 firends
[3/2/2016 7:16:21 PM] Power SEO Service: its ok dont worry about it
[3/7/2016 10:13:33 PM] Power SEO Service: have around 200$ in pp ? i need asap
[3/7/2016 10:14:08 PM] Martin Nesbitt: not at the moment but I have someone wanting to buy BTC with PP
[3/7/2016 10:14:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if he comes back maybe have some tomorow
[3/7/2016 10:14:18 PM] Power SEO Service: he has 210 paypal ?
[3/7/2016 10:14:27 PM] Power SEO Service: oh ok needed for something urgent
[3/7/2016 10:14:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: 240
[3/7/2016 10:14:38 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well he hasn't responded back
[3/7/2016 10:14:42 PM] Power SEO Service: but ok tell me if he wants tomorow also
[3/7/2016 10:14:47 PM] Power SEO Service: Ok thank you
[3/7/2016 10:15:05 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok
[3/7/2016 10:15:31 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have another guy with payza
[3/7/2016 10:15:39 PM] Power SEO Service: nah just need pp
[3/7/2016 10:15:46 PM] Power SEO Service: atm
[3/7/2016 10:15:47 PM] Martin Nesbitt: what do you want to trade for PP ?
[3/7/2016 10:15:51 PM] Power SEO Service: btc
[3/7/2016 10:15:56 PM] Power SEO Service: as usual
[3/7/2016 10:16:23 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok I think I can make a trade threw my trader  he was telling me he had 600 PP to move
[3/7/2016 10:17:03 PM] Power SEO Service: ok ask for 210$ paypal for 200$ btc ( and trader covers fee`s ) so its a clear deal
[3/7/2016 10:18:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: said  ((I will send the paypal as friend and family))
[3/7/2016 10:18:46 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/7/2016 10:19:05 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this is not the same trader you dealt with last time
[3/7/2016 10:19:15 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this guy I have been dealing with for over a yewar
[3/7/2016 10:19:19 PM] Power SEO Service: ok thats good, he is ready ?
[3/7/2016 10:19:28 PM | Removed 10:32:12 PM] Power SEO Service: This message has been removed.
[3/7/2016 10:19:34 PM] Power SEO Service: after payment send me his btc address
[3/7/2016 10:21:55 PM] Martin Nesbitt: his BTC is 1NTz35yKDzmfnyG8W3apA3cpBAjczijc8h
[3/7/2016 10:22:15 PM] Power SEO Service: he sent paypal ?
[3/7/2016 10:22:44 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he saying exchangers go first
[3/7/2016 10:22:58 PM] Power SEO Service: buddy , we have talked about this , BTC is irreversable
[3/7/2016 10:23:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: think he means you go first  (( but I would call him the exchanger hehehe)
[3/7/2016 10:23:02 PM] Power SEO Service: and i have btc can assure you
[3/7/2016 10:23:05 PM] Power SEO Service: TONS of it
[3/7/2016 10:23:16 PM] Power SEO Service: so he must go first
[3/7/2016 10:23:25 PM] Power SEO Service: paypal can be chargebacked anytime , btc can not
[3/7/2016 10:23:45 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ill tell
[3/7/2016 10:24:03 PM] Martin Nesbitt: trust in these things is difacult  no one wants to go first hehehe
[3/7/2016 10:24:29 PM] Power SEO Service: yes excahnges are like that. but here remains the fact that i can not take back my btc , but he can take back his pp anytime.
[3/7/2016 10:25:05 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well I can tell you I trust him
[3/7/2016 10:25:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I often send him $ to be converted without even talking to him first
[3/7/2016 10:25:30 PM] Power SEO Service: You can gurantiee for him ?
[3/7/2016 10:25:31 PM] Power SEO Service: 100% ?
[3/7/2016 10:25:44 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have many times just sent him all my WM and skrill to get it converted to PP
[3/7/2016 10:26:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if I where the one wanting to trade BTC tof PP I would and have just sent it dropped himk a message so hew knows it was sent and then gotten the PP within 2-3 days
[3/7/2016 10:26:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he told me about an hour ago he has $600 PP
[3/7/2016 10:26:50 PM] Power SEO Service: So you can 100% gurantie for him correct ?
[3/7/2016 10:27:07 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I do not gurantie someone elses actions
[3/7/2016 10:27:27 PM] Martin Nesbitt: all I can say is I have trusted him many times in the past and never regreted it
[3/7/2016 10:27:53 PM] Power SEO Service: if you can gurantiee for him , than i can send the btc right away its no problem. if you cant than he needs to send pp first.
[3/7/2016 10:29:31 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if I am to use my own $ to backup this trade ill need a % of the trade
[3/7/2016 10:30:14 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I can make the connection for free or handle the money for $10  up to you
[3/7/2016 10:30:21 PM] Power SEO Service: ok i`ll send 210 btc
[3/7/2016 10:30:32 PM] Power SEO Service: in a momnet
[3/7/2016 10:30:33 PM] Power SEO Service: ok ?
[3/7/2016 10:30:37 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok
[3/7/2016 10:30:48 PM] Power SEO Service: his BTC is 1NTz35yKDzmfnyG8W3apA3cpBAjczijc8h
[3/7/2016 10:30:51 PM] Power SEO Service: this is correct ?
[3/7/2016 10:31:06 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yes
[3/7/2016 10:31:37 PM] Power SEO Service: sent 210$
[3/7/2016 10:31:45 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/1NTz35yKDzmfnyG8W3apA3cpBAjczijc8h
[3/7/2016 10:31:53 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/tx/03f75d497f5d80cad1dc1d864b939b1cabd92bfa6c8376472691ef14447c9e14
[3/7/2016 10:32:06 PM | Removed 11:06:58 PM] Power SEO Service: This message has been removed.
[3/7/2016 10:37:07 PM] Power SEO Service: here ?
[3/7/2016 10:37:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yes
[3/7/2016 10:37:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: waiting on confermations
[3/7/2016 10:37:28 PM] Power SEO Service: i havent recived any funds yet
[3/7/2016 10:37:32 PM] Power SEO Service: confirmations will come
[3/7/2016 10:37:44 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you can cancel it till they have come
[3/7/2016 10:37:48 PM] Power SEO Service: haaha
[3/7/2016 10:37:50 PM] Power SEO Service: where you hear that ?
[3/7/2016 10:37:54 PM] Martin Nesbitt: takes all of 1-2 min to cancel a trade
[3/7/2016 10:37:59 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have done it
[3/7/2016 10:38:00 PM] Power SEO Service: loool
[3/7/2016 10:38:02 PM] Power SEO Service: with btc ?
[3/7/2016 10:38:05 PM] Power SEO Service: impossible
[3/7/2016 10:38:09 PM] Power SEO Service: once you HIT SEND there is no back
[3/7/2016 10:38:10 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yes if it isn't yet confirmed
[3/7/2016 10:38:18 PM] Power SEO Service: lol man where you hear that ?
[3/7/2016 10:38:28 PM] Power SEO Service: its impossible
[3/7/2016 10:38:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you shut down the BTC core and put in a code then reboot it
[3/7/2016 10:38:37 PM] Martin Nesbitt: unconfirmed trades will be removed
[3/7/2016 10:38:41 PM] Power SEO Service: Shut Down the BTC core ???
[3/7/2016 10:38:46 PM] Power SEO Service: put in a code ??/
[3/7/2016 10:38:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I just learned that 405 days ago but it worked for me
[3/7/2016 10:38:51 PM] Power SEO Service: 100000 hackers can not do it
[3/7/2016 10:38:58 PM] Power SEO Service: hwo did you shutdown the btc core ?
[3/7/2016 10:39:06 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just close it
[3/7/2016 10:39:06 PM] Power SEO Service: lol
[3/7/2016 10:39:48 PM] Power SEO Service: never heard about this
[3/7/2016 10:39:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ack8by   give it some time
[3/7/2016 10:40:05 PM] Power SEO Service: i know what a confirmation is and no prob we will wait
[3/7/2016 10:41:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you close down the core and re run like this  http://prntscr.com/ack8jo it will clear out all unconfirmed transactions and return the $ to your acocunt
[3/7/2016 10:41:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I did it a few days ago and it worked
[3/7/2016 10:41:40 PM] Power SEO Service: hmmm
[3/7/2016 10:41:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: mind you the transactions where 4 days old not just a few min there may be a timing isu in there
[3/7/2016 10:41:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: may not work on active bnlocks
[3/7/2016 10:42:03 PM] Power SEO Service: i will try this in some time
[3/7/2016 10:42:11 PM] Power SEO Service: but i doubt it works
[3/7/2016 10:42:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ack8xy
[3/7/2016 10:42:36 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well it worked for me
[3/7/2016 10:45:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1381454.msg14071098#msg14071098
[3/7/2016 10:47:07 PM] Power SEO Service: will test this tomorow between 2 of my accounts
[3/7/2016 10:47:10 PM] Power SEO Service: and will let you know
[3/7/2016 10:47:28 PM] Martin Nesbitt: may be a timing isu there but it dose work
[3/7/2016 10:56:07 PM] Power SEO Service: this is taking ages
[3/7/2016 10:56:31 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you should have set a higher BTC fee
[3/7/2016 10:57:16 PM] Martin Nesbitt: id of set to 0.001
[3/7/2016 10:57:21 PM] Power SEO Service: should have
[3/7/2016 10:57:26 PM] Power SEO Service: but didnt
[3/7/2016 10:59:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: here is one I sent for 142$  https://blockchain.info/tx/5f085648578180c21c1ac7b4507c75a57111478e85cdee75d02372d4d237fd32
[3/7/2016 10:59:22 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I set the fee to $0.50
[3/7/2016 10:59:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: went fast
[3/7/2016 10:59:44 PM] Power SEO Service: Estimated Confirmation Time Very Soon (High Priority)
[3/7/2016 11:00:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yea true  yet still unconfirmed
[3/7/2016 11:03:48 PM] Power SEO Service: 1 confirmation
[3/7/2016 11:03:50 PM] Power SEO Service: can he send now ?.
[3/7/2016 11:04:06 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just getting back  just a sec
[3/7/2016 11:04:11 PM] Power SEO Service: ?
[3/7/2016 11:04:13 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/7/2016 11:04:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: wa sin the washroom
[3/7/2016 11:04:42 PM] Power SEO Service: washing the washroom :)
[3/7/2016 11:04:45 PM] Power SEO Service: or was in the washroom
[3/7/2016 11:04:58 PM] Martin Nesbitt: taking a leek
[3/7/2016 11:05:13 PM] Power SEO Service: kk
[3/7/2016 11:05:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: says he will send now
[3/7/2016 11:05:21 PM] Power SEO Service: its confirmed now
[3/7/2016 11:05:22 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/7/2016 11:09:09 PM] Power SEO Service: he sent me 198$
[3/7/2016 11:09:20 PM] Power SEO Service: instead of 210$
[3/7/2016 11:09:38 PM] Martin Nesbitt: was to send you $200 and me $10
[3/7/2016 11:09:48 PM] Power SEO Service: why ?
[3/7/2016 11:10:12 PM] Power SEO Service: ok ask for 210$ paypal for 200$ btc ( and trader covers fee`s ) so its a clear dealI thought we had a deal , 210$ paypal for 200$ btc
[3/7/2016 11:10:15 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I told you if I was goging to cover the trade I would take a fee
[3/7/2016 11:10:26 PM] Power SEO Service: And that is why i sent 210 btc instead of 200
[3/7/2016 11:10:27 PM] Power SEO Service: man
[3/7/2016 11:10:31 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you refused to go first unless I backed the trade
[3/7/2016 11:10:37 PM] Power SEO Service: And that is why i sent 210 btc instead of 200
[3/7/2016 11:10:48 PM] Power SEO Service: ok ask for 210$ paypal for 200$ btc ( and trader covers fee`s ) so its a clear deal
[3/7/2016 11:10:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just a sec
[3/7/2016 11:11:21 PM] Power SEO Service: I should have sent 200 btc for 210$ paypal ... But i sent 210$ btc so you can take your 10$ in btc and send me 210$ paypal
[3/7/2016 11:12:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: talking to him
[3/7/2016 11:18:48 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ackgr4
[3/7/2016 11:18:58 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this may be my last deal as a middle man
[3/7/2016 11:19:14 PM] Martin Nesbitt: bad enough to struggle for my own % but to do it for someone else
[3/7/2016 11:19:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it's really anoying
[3/7/2016 11:19:20 PM] Power SEO Service: lol
[3/7/2016 11:19:23 PM] Power SEO Service: i understand
[3/7/2016 11:19:26 PM] Power SEO Service: and its ok
[3/7/2016 11:19:30 PM] Power SEO Service: no need to send me anything
[3/7/2016 11:19:38 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I think he will
[3/7/2016 11:19:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but im about fedup with being a middle man
[3/7/2016 11:22:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I should have taken the time to clarify the final deal before anything was sent
[3/7/2016 11:23:22 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he/I always trade 1|1 and he is having a hard time grasping why he needs to pay 220 for 210
[3/7/2016 11:23:43 PM] Power SEO Service: yes i understand
[3/7/2016 11:23:49 PM] Power SEO Service: with people i deal with
[3/7/2016 11:23:53 PM] Power SEO Service: its normal to have %
[3/7/2016 11:23:56 PM] Power SEO Service: so they are all used to it
[3/7/2016 11:26:35 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ackib0
[3/7/2016 11:26:39 PM] Martin Nesbitt: whats your PP again
[3/7/2016 11:26:59 PM] Power SEO Service: send to payment@moneyers.net
[3/7/2016 11:30:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he hasn't sent it to me yet
[3/7/2016 11:30:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: sending it to you
[3/7/2016 11:30:56 PM] Martin Nesbitt: from now on ill be charging a flat connecting fee of $10
[3/7/2016 11:31:08 PM] Martin Nesbitt: or 5% if I have the $ to do the trade myself
[3/7/2016 11:33:56 PM] Martin Nesbitt: says he sent another 10
[8:44:18 AM] Power SEO Service: SCAMMED ME 
FOR 500$
[8:44:42 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ?
[8:44:51 AM] Power SEO Service: YOUR SKRILL GUY
[8:44:56 AM] Power SEO Service: CANCELED ALL PAYMENTS !!!
[8:45:00 AM] Power SEO Service: SCAMMED ME 550$
[8:45:21 AM] Martin Nesbitt: really  been  vary honist with me
[8:45:32 AM] Power SEO Service: You knew about this
[8:45:36 AM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/101e87f02e3585eaaf2d8320e1945fc3
[8:45:41 AM] Power SEO Service: CANCELED
[8:46:17 AM] Martin Nesbitt: man I got notyhing for the trade  all I did was mad ethe connection
[8:46:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I traided him about $150 and he paid me in BTC without any problems
[8:46:51 AM] Power SEO Service: CONNECTION WITH A SCAMMER
[8:47:01 AM] Martin Nesbitt: he has been sending me trades for a couple weeks
[8:47:37 AM] Martin Nesbitt: would you like to look in my Skype and confirm the talks I have had with him ?
[8:47:58 AM] Power SEO Service: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MY SKRILL AND SEE THAT I GOT FUCKING SCAMMED ?
[8:48:09 AM] Power SEO Service: FROM YOUR "FRIEND" ????
[8:48:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have no reason to call you a lyer
[8:48:29 AM] Power SEO Service: HE BETTER GET MY MONEY BACK TODAY
[8:48:35 AM] Power SEO Service: OR WILL BE SORRY
[8:48:39 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I only met him about 2 weeks ago but he has been acting vary much like a friend
[8:48:46 AM] Power SEO Service: HE BETTER GET MY MONEY BACK TODAY
OR WILL BE SORRY
[8:48:47 AM] Martin Nesbitt: been sending me trades and giving advice
[8:49:06 AM] Power SEO Service: I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT, YOU RECOMMENDED HIM
[8:49:19 AM] Power SEO Service: I WAS DOING TRADE OVER YOU
[8:49:36 AM] Martin Nesbitt: all indications I had was that he is trust worthy  but in the end all you can do is try and see
[8:49:42 AM] Power SEO Service: ASK HIM TO GET MY MONEY BACK in 24h
[8:49:50 AM] Power SEO Service: OR IT WILL BE BAD
[8:50:13 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ill ask him about it but I can no more force his hand then yours
[8:51:58 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ive sent him a message but he is not currently online
[8:52:38 AM] Martin Nesbitt: also iv been told that skrill can't be reversed
[8:52:43 AM] Martin Nesbitt: how did he manage this
[8:52:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I see in your image he paid it from viza
[8:53:20 AM] Martin Nesbitt: was it a CC charge back superceeding skrill managmeant ?
[8:53:41 AM] Power SEO Service: I DONT CARE HOW HE DID IT , BY TONIGHT HE NEEDS TO SEND ME BACK MY MONEY TELL HIM
[8:54:07 AM] Martin Nesbitt: you will have to make your own threats
[8:54:09 AM] Power SEO Service: its 550 EURS SCAM
[8:54:23 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I can tell you where to report this to hurt his account in the forum though
[8:54:37 AM] Power SEO Service: SEND ME ALL INFO AOBUT HIM
[8:55:05 AM] Martin Nesbitt: this is the forum I met him on  https://bitcointalk.org
[8:55:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: this is his members page  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452003
[8:56:04 AM] Power SEO Service: already found that
[8:56:05 AM] Power SEO Service: bitcoinmar
[8:56:07 AM] Power SEO Service: is his username
[8:56:11 AM] Power SEO Service: BUT ITS SHITTY WORTHLESS
[8:56:14 AM] Power SEO Service: ITS NEW ACCOUNT
[8:56:16 AM] Power SEO Service: REGISTERED
[8:56:24 AM] Power SEO Service: FOR SCAMM , WHAT WILL HURT HIM ??
[8:56:27 AM] Power SEO Service: DONT JOKE WITH ME
[8:56:50 AM] Power SEO Service: I TOLD YOU, HE IS YOUR FRIEND ! BY TONIGHT LET HIM KNOW TO TAKE MONEY BACK OR ALL BUSINESSES WILL SUFFER
[8:57:00 AM] Martin Nesbitt: that is him but as I recall he had around 1200 posts
[8:58:04 AM] Martin Nesbitt: his account is not new it has   2811 posts
[8:58:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and more then a year old
[8:58:43 AM] Martin Nesbitt: all his feedback is positive not a single red
[9:07:20 AM] Martin Nesbitt: well I have to get ready for work
[9:07:45 AM] Martin Nesbitt: if you want to open a complaint thread reporting him ill chime in and confirm what I can of your storry
[9:07:55 AM] Power SEO Service: DO YOUR THING , AND I TOLD YOU ! I NEED THOSE MONEY in MY ACCOUNT BY TONIGHT !!!
[9:08:11 AM] Power SEO Service: NO I WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ALSO ! HE IS YOUR REOCMMENDATION !
[9:08:36 AM] Martin Nesbitt: im a third party  I can't argu for you in the forum
[9:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I will tell what I know in support of you but I see nothing to be gained by me opening the thread
[9:09:16 AM] Martin Nesbitt: this is your argumeant not mine
[9:09:29 AM] Power SEO Service: its your as much as its mine
[9:09:34 AM] Power SEO Service: how do i know you did not set me up
[9:09:39 AM] Power SEO Service: for this scam ???
[9:09:43 AM] Power SEO Service: that you are not involved in this
[9:09:46 AM] Power SEO Service: as much as he is
[9:09:50 AM] Power SEO Service: ?????????????????
[9:09:55 AM] Power SEO Service: YOU SENT HIM TO ME
[9:10:02 AM] Power SEO Service: maybe you were framing me from the start
[9:10:03 AM] Power SEO Service: !!!!
[9:10:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: man  I did not ask you to do that trade
[9:10:30 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I even stoped chatting and put you 2 together so I could back off from it
[9:11:04 AM] Power SEO Service: its your recommendation ! You need to deal with it also as i said !!
[9:11:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: we can go around this loop all we want but you have known me for 4 months  have I ever shown any sign of dishonisty
[9:12:18 AM] Power SEO Service: YES now + the FACT that you JUST REMOVED my support ACC also
[9:12:20 AM] Power SEO Service: shows
[9:12:27 AM] Power SEO Service: big DOUBT
[9:12:30 AM] Martin Nesbitt: as I recall I also traded some $ for you a week or 2 back
[9:12:39 AM] Martin Nesbitt: you are threating me
[9:12:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: do you expect me to leave you with back end access to my site
[9:12:55 AM] Power SEO Service: man if i want, i can take down your business in seconds
[9:13:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe so but im not going to provide you with the door to do so
[9:13:25 AM] Power SEO Service: YOu think i need a DOOR ?
[9:13:29 AM] Power SEO Service: OK
[9:13:39 AM] Power SEO Service: By tonight
[9:13:45 AM] Power SEO Service: if i dont have the money in my account
[9:13:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: man when someone is threatning to punch you do you have him a set of brass knokels ?
[9:13:50 AM] Power SEO Service: than we`ll see
[9:14:03 AM] Power SEO Service: if i need a door or not
[9:14:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: do what you feel you must  I will weather the storm as I have in the past
[9:14:56 AM] Power SEO Service: OK
[9:15:15 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I am not your enemy I did not scam you but if you choose to beleave that then there is nothing I can do about it
[9:15:46 AM] Power SEO Service: It was your recommendation ! You said HE IS TRUSTED ! WORKED MANY TIMES
[9:15:53 AM] Power SEO Service: how can i belive a shit after this from you ?
[9:16:02 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have had 5-6 trades with him
[9:16:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and been given 3-4 more by him
[9:16:17 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I had no reason to distrust him
[9:16:30 AM] Martin Nesbitt: same as I had no reason to distrust you
[9:16:56 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I made the same judgmeant call for you as I made for him
[9:17:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: all indicates I have on him are that he is fully trust worthy
[9:18:01 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but I have not traded 1/2 as much as you did
[9:18:03 AM] Martin Nesbitt: totall
[9:18:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe you where just to tempting an opertunity for him to pass up I don't know
[9:18:40 AM] Power SEO Service: Dont try to back off of this ! You have responsobility in this also !!! TALK WIHT HIM
[9:18:45 AM] Power SEO Service: want my money by tonight
[9:18:48 AM] Power SEO Service: in my account !
[9:19:04 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have left him a message  but I can do nothing to force his hand
[9:19:20 AM] Martin Nesbitt: if he truly is trying to rip you off my words will gain nothing
[9:19:51 AM] Martin Nesbitt: on the other hand this could just be a problem with his CC
[9:20:02 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but who makes a trade from the CC ?
[9:20:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: you shouldn't have excepted a CC payment
[9:20:35 AM] Martin Nesbitt: the CC fee's will kill any profit an honist trader is planning to make
[9:20:41 AM] Martin Nesbitt: it's a massive red flag
[9:20:48 AM] Martin Nesbitt: well I got to go
[9:39:12 AM] Martin Nesbitt: im waiting on someone to get dressed but been thinking on this
[9:39:31 AM] Martin Nesbitt: didn't my guy also have a forth party that was really trading with you
[9:39:45 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I seem to recall seeing you asking how many people where in that trade
[9:40:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure but I thought I read something about him having to talk to someone else during the trade
[9:40:26 AM] Martin Nesbitt: maybey you where infact scammed by a 4th person
[9:40:46 AM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure as I wasn't paying much attention by that time I was just letting you 2 chat
[9:40:58 AM] Power SEO Service: Look i dont care about that
[9:41:02 AM] Power SEO Service: just want my money back
[9:41:08 AM] Martin Nesbitt: something worth looking up
[9:41:17 AM] Power SEO Service: what can you look up ??
[9:41:21 AM] Power SEO Service: chasing ghosts ???
[9:41:27 AM] Power SEO Service: are you kidding me
[9:41:31 AM] Martin Nesbitt: yea that is about the size of it
[9:41:44 AM] Martin Nesbitt: just thinking about it is all
[9:41:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: as you well know I am new to trading curency's
[9:42:06 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I just started a couple weeks ago
[9:42:22 AM] Martin Nesbitt: still learning all the risks invalved
[9:43:05 AM] Power SEO Service: And you learn on me ???
[9:43:08 AM] Power SEO Service: man i trusted you
[9:43:17 AM] Martin Nesbitt: anyway point is if ir was another party then the guy I provided is not the problem but it is the guy he provided
[9:43:30 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I did not vouch for that 4 person
[9:43:41 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have no idea who it was
[9:43:43 AM] Power SEO Service: YOU VOUCHED for your guy
[9:43:50 AM] Power SEO Service: and YOUR GUY Scammed me !
[9:44:05 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and if I recall correctly he brot in another guy that actually did the trade
[9:44:32 AM] Martin Nesbitt: then again he may have simply said that to lay the ground work for now
[9:44:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I still think you should make a post in that forum
[9:45:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: if you can convince them your telling the truth they can hurt him a lot
[9:45:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: he has no red in his feedback
[9:45:42 AM] Martin Nesbitt: may well help you just to avoied getting some
[9:46:14 AM] Martin Nesbitt: ill post in it backing you up but I wont make the thread
[9:46:48 AM] Power SEO Service: THAT ACCOUNT MEANS NOTHING TO HIm
[9:46:54 AM] Power SEO Service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392734.0
[9:46:56 AM] Power SEO Service: !!!!
[9:47:08 AM] Power SEO Service: BY TONIGHT NEED THE MONEY BACK.
[9:47:16 AM] Martin Nesbitt: it is over a year old with 2800 posts and no negative reports in his trust
[9:53:53 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I have responded  got to go now
[10:52:48 AM] Martin Nesbitt: and im back  got to work and promptly got rained out
[10:52:57 AM] Martin Nesbitt: should have never gone in the first place
[11:07:09 AM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad491o   and I have no idea who this is hehehe
[12:00:13 PM] Power SEO Service: Not interested in those things ATM. I only want my money on acc ! THose money were urgent for need to pay for URGENT matter to a GUY that noone wants to get in trouble with.
[12:00:32 PM] Power SEO Service: So no hard feelings, but since this excahnge went through you i expect you take some responsibility also.
[12:02:21 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not looking to make a new trade and im done making connections then being held responcable for others actions
[12:02:47 PM] Martin Nesbitt: more responsibility yes $ly though no
[12:03:17 PM] Martin Nesbitt: when trading $ there is always a risk
[12:03:33 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I myself have lost about 4310 in the last 10 days
[12:03:42 PM] Power SEO Service: You want to tell me , when i start trading with you there was a risk of me beeing scammed ?!?!
[12:03:58 PM] Power SEO Service: stop saying there is a risk and i should have known that. I have been excahnging for long time now
[12:04:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: there is always a risk
[12:04:01 PM] Power SEO Service: The deal i only took
[12:04:04 PM] Power SEO Service: because you recommened it
[12:04:09 PM] Power SEO Service: and i trusted you !
[12:04:13 PM] Power SEO Service: i can pull back the chat logs
[12:04:15 PM] Power SEO Service: if you want
[12:04:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: yea and I also recamended you to him
[12:04:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this had the same risk of going the other way
[12:04:40 PM] Martin Nesbitt: there is no 100% sure thing on the internet
[12:04:43 PM] Power SEO Service: To who , what or how you recommened me its not my busienss. You vouched for him , i asked you for exchange.
[12:04:59 PM] Power SEO Service: Deal went trhough you
[12:05:10 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I vouched for both of you cause you had both traded honestly with me
[12:05:13 PM] Power SEO Service: YOU as excahnger , need to take repsonsobility for your actions also.
[12:05:28 PM] Power SEO Service: Thats the excahnge business all about.
[12:05:45 PM] Martin Nesbitt: all anyone can do is judge bases on there expearences  and he had always traded honestly with me
[12:06:34 PM | Edited 12:06:43 PM] Power SEO Service: Well thats the thing, you trusted him, and started the excahnge with me. You can not simply pull off from it.
[12:07:00 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just what is it you think I should be doing here anyway ?
[12:07:39 PM] Power SEO Service: If you started excahnging , than you ALSO should know all the RISKS and RESPONSIBILITYS involved here.
[12:08:03 PM] Power SEO Service: Anyway have my DOX guys gathering info about all parties involved in this transaction. If money are not sent back in 24h, i will take action.
[12:08:14 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I didn't tell you to except a CC payment  that was your mistake not mine
[12:08:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't have your money and I never did  gather all the info you like nothing will lead to me other then our chats
[12:09:15 PM] Power SEO Service: Where do you see CC Payment ??
[12:09:21 PM] Martin Nesbitt: your own image
[12:09:27 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/0e3dab0bd07f1e3ecc6068e594cbb83c
[12:09:29 PM] Power SEO Service: WHERE ?
[12:10:01 PM] Power SEO Service: I didn't tell you to except a CC payment  that was your mistake not mineWhere you SEE CC PAYMENT ?
[12:10:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad548k
[12:10:11 PM] Power SEO Service: THATS MY VISA
[12:10:15 PM] Power SEO Service: WITHDRAWAL REQWUEST !
[12:10:16 PM] Martin Nesbitt: Visa is a CC company
[12:10:28 PM] Power SEO Service: THATS MY VISA , NOT PAYMENT FROM YOUR GUY
[12:10:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok now im confused
[12:10:44 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/0e3dab0bd07f1e3ecc6068e594cbb83c
[12:10:48 PM] Power SEO Service: STATUS - CANCELED !!!
[12:10:52 PM] Power SEO Service: ON payments
[12:10:55 PM] Power SEO Service: and WITHDRAWAL ALSOO
[12:11:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: O so it is your own withdra that is canceled
[12:11:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure what that means
[12:11:40 PM] Power SEO Service: First HIS PAYMENTS were CANCELED ! Than MY WITHDRAWAL did not WENT TRHOUGH
[12:11:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it dose not mean that his payment was canceled
[12:11:45 PM] Power SEO Service: ebcause he cancleed the payments !
[12:12:08 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/ef17d8d46ddb463f8ba662eea32c928f
[12:12:09 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well your not showing me that your only showing me that your withdraw was canceled
[12:12:12 PM] Power SEO Service: SEE STATUS CANCLED !!
[12:12:16 PM] Power SEO Service: ON ALL PAYMENTS
[12:12:24 PM] Power SEO Service: STATUS - CANECELED
[12:12:47 PM] Martin Nesbitt: right he sent in peaces forgot about that
[12:13:11 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he was saying a bunch of stuff in his account got canceled to
[12:13:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe they are shutting down people connected to currency trading
[12:13:49 PM] Power SEO Service: HE STILL HAVE MY MONEY
[12:14:09 PM] Power SEO Service: he can REFUND me the BTC THAN
[12:14:10 PM] Power SEO Service: i dont care
[12:14:12 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he said he also lost all $ in his acoucnt
[12:14:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: asumming he still has it
[12:14:28 PM] Power SEO Service: THAN WHY HE DONT ACCEPT ME AND TALK TO ME
[12:14:32 PM] Power SEO Service: ??/
[12:14:36 PM] Power SEO Service: AND TLAK THORUGH YOU
[12:14:44 PM] Power SEO Service: this is onyl getting more suspicious
[12:14:45 PM] Power SEO Service: by minute
[12:14:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he is currently offline
[12:15:06 PM] Power SEO Service: nvm i am tired as shit
[12:15:09 PM] Power SEO Service: as i said
[12:15:24 PM] Power SEO Service: i expect you to take 50% reponsibility also bud sorry about that
[12:15:42 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not paying anything I didn't get any of the $
[12:16:33 PM] Power SEO Service: ok he has 24h to respond or refund. than i take actions.
[12:16:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: up to you
[12:16:46 PM] Power SEO Service: 6:16 pm today 9th march.
[12:16:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure what is even going on here
[12:16:56 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it may well be all Skrill's doing
[12:17:03 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but this much I know it isn't my doing
[12:17:19 PM] Power SEO Service: No its not ! And let me explain you whats going on.
[12:18:03 PM] Martin Nesbitt: a few years back I lost about $18,000 when storm pay decided to put an end to whate they considered bad trading
[12:18:26 PM] Power SEO Service: I asked for exchange with YOU. You vouched and linked me with your GUY. First excahnge went thoruh YOU. You told me where to send and i sent you my email. Other excahnges went through YOU makeing Skype chat. As an EXCHANGER you also need to know the consequences of making Exchanges. If you start something need to take responsobility for it.
[12:18:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: be 7-8 years now actually
[12:18:59 PM] Power SEO Service: That is why i am saying in 24 will take actions on all parties involved. Sorry but i have to protect my self also.
[12:19:52 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you asked for a trade with me I didn't have enough to handle it and ased him if he could he said yes so I put you to gether  there was way to much chatting I couldn't work as a good middle man so I joined you 2 in a group chat in skype
[12:20:04 PM] Martin Nesbitt: from there you where dealing with eachother not me
[12:20:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: nothing to do with me I was no longer a part of the deal and I took no profit from it
[12:20:40 PM] Power SEO Service: I dont know if you took profit or not, and honestly i dont care.
[12:20:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well I didn't
[12:21:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I tried to take $10 from the second deal with the second trader but again you ended up in conflict and I decided to forgo my cut just to end the arguing
[12:22:53 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it kinda saddens me actiually I could have made some nice easy profit off you if id had the $ to do the deals myself  but I didn't and all I have gotten fro trying to help you is a lot of arguing
[12:23:12 PM] Power SEO Service: Not sure i trust anything atm. You blocked my support account also, you seem to know Gold Bitcoin lost his money wtih Skrill which means you are talking with him, and he is not with me. Yesterday you told me how to do BTC chargeback on unconfirmed transaction, which means you might know how to do that with skrill also.  As far as i know you 2 might be in this together.
[12:23:49 PM] Power SEO Service: That is why as i said, someone needs to take repsonsibility for this.
[12:23:54 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad5b6n
[12:23:54 PM] Power SEO Service: and i am giving 24h for it.
[12:24:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad5bie
[12:24:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: notes the time stamp  I havn't heard from him in over an hour
[12:25:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but he did say he had lost $50 Skrill when they canceled his transactions
[12:27:08 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you care to do a bunch of reading here is where I learned that BTC trick  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1381333.msg14048336#msg14048336
[12:29:06 PM] Martin Nesbitt: in this one I am reporting a scammer that took me for $170 in a reather complicated way  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386622.msg14093707#msg14093707
[12:30:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: just before that second one I had been told that it is imposible to do a charge back in Skrill and I think I read on there own site that they will not do anything is someone trie's to dispute a payment
[12:30:42 PM] Martin Nesbitt: the Escrow guy did say either in that ticket or in a PM im not sure that the buyer could do a charge back with the CC either way
[12:30:56 PM] Martin Nesbitt: im not sure if theis was said before or after your trade
[12:31:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but it's on my mind now
[12:31:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: though not relavent as the visa was yours not the incoming payment
[12:33:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad5fpf
[12:33:36 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I suspect $550 gotin from account to account to account then being witdrawn from Skrill razed a red flag at skrill
[12:35:01 PM] Martin Nesbitt: there may not be any scamming going on here at all
[12:35:50 PM] Power SEO Service: So i lost my 550$ and there is no scamming going on ? Ok
[12:36:04 PM] Power SEO Service: You/HE took btc to his/yours BTC account
[12:36:07 PM] Power SEO Service: which means
[12:36:24 PM] Power SEO Service: money still went off my account
[12:36:29 PM] Power SEO Service: and like i said dont want to argue anymore
[12:36:38 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it's just a guess but if im right the $ has been returned to the origanule Skype account and the BTC should be returned to you
[12:36:38 PM] Power SEO Service: its 6 pm 9 March
[12:37:09 PM] Power SEO Service: Tomorow 6 PM 10 March i expect some respond.
[12:40:41 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well all I can do is talk
[12:40:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have responded to the thread again
[12:40:59 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but I have no controle over the outcome
[12:42:07 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I can tell you if this isn't resolved one of the higher level guy's in the forum will most likely give him a neg feed back which will instently put in in the red and no one will deal with him
[12:42:34 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he will not want to loose an account with 2800 posts over one transaction
[12:42:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: then again for some of the world $550 would be a hole years wages
[12:50:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: that guy I was reporting last week  his trust rating was 0 0 0 same as min and looked the same as min in the forum afer my report and some arguing a few of them top guy's gave him a negative frrdback and now he is -250 here we are http://prntscr.com/ad5nut im the lower one  you can see how this has just wrecked his ability to trade in the forum, no one would deal with him now
[12:50:53 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you convince the forum that GB or I for that maner did scam oyu we would face the same
[12:51:12 PM] Martin Nesbitt: and he with 2800 posts and a yet of trust building  has a lot to loose
[1:07:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he just sent me an image of his Skrill  http://prntscr.com/ad5wza
[1:07:15 PM] Martin Nesbitt: notes the bottom one  would mean he lost the funds to
[1:08:01 PM] Power SEO Service: no body lost nothing here except me !
[1:08:21 PM] Power SEO Service: make a deal wtih him refund me at least 50% of my payment and i will consider this as closed.
[1:08:52 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I mean the skrill is not in his acoucnt
[1:09:00 PM] Martin Nesbitt: his actuall loss is $10
[1:09:08 PM] Martin Nesbitt: was the fee he took there
[1:09:26 PM] Power SEO Service: Thats not my problem
[1:09:54 PM] Martin Nesbitt: my point was he is not holding on to your Skrill
[1:10:10 PM] Martin Nesbitt: it's not that he did a charge back to recovber your Skrill
[1:10:27 PM] Martin Nesbitt: this fact dose not put any $ in your pocet but it dose prove he is not a scammer
[1:12:31 PM] Power SEO Service: Like i said before, i do not care about this ! All people want to act as EXCHANGERS than they NEED to take reposnsibility for THIS !
[1:12:33 PM] Power SEO Service: Thats all i have to say
[1:12:37 PM] Power SEO Service: make a deal wtih him refund me at least 50% of my payment and i will consider this as closed.
[1:12:42 PM] Power SEO Service: and my 24h still holds
[1:13:35 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ad60ul
[1:14:02 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well it takes what it takes  I can't force things to move faster just cause your upset
[1:15:09 PM] Power SEO Service: Because i am UPSET ? I just lost 550$ from the exchange ! You did not loose anything , your guy also did not loose anything ! First you tell me he lost all his $$ on skrill ... Now i see his skrill is ACTIVE but onyl his payment is cancled !
[1:15:25 PM] Power SEO Service: and again he is talking to YOU but not ME ! Ignoring me on CHAT.
[1:15:48 PM] Power SEO Service: Like i said before, i do not care about this ! All people want to act as EXCHANGERS than they NEED to take reposnsibility for THIS !
Thats all i have to say
make a deal wtih him refund me at least 50% of my payment and i will consider this as closed.
and my 24h still holds
[1:16:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: he said he also lost $50 of his own in scrill but the only image I have seen shows only the 4 transactions relating to your 550
[1:17:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: ok now he is showing me a larger image  http://prntscr.com/ad62t1
[1:17:25 PM] Power SEO Service: he was saying a bunch of stuff in his account got canceled to
maybe they are shutting down people connected to currency trading[12:14 PM] Martin Nesbitt: 

<<< he said he also lost all $ in his acoucnt
[1:17:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: notes there is a small transaction there nothing to do with your $550 that is also canceleed
[1:17:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: and his balance is 0
[1:18:10 PM] Martin Nesbitt: id say his skrill account is under attack for some reason
[1:18:24 PM] Martin Nesbitt: likely to much trading and they decided to put a stop to it
[1:18:42 PM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe his buyer was given the $
[1:18:50 PM] Power SEO Service: id say its bullshit
[1:18:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe when he comes on line GB can have him send it directly to you
[1:19:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well your seeing what im seeing
[1:19:19 PM] Martin Nesbitt: looks real to me
[2:04:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I have responded again to the ticket
[2:04:38 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I think I know what has happened here
[2:04:52 PM] Martin Nesbitt: but I am not sure what will happen next
[2:05:30 PM] Martin Nesbitt: bitcoinmar made a big blunder and may well have to eat the loss

[amartin99]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Don't see why full chat is needed. It's pretty simple: Did he know you were acting as a man in the middle or was he under the impression he was dealing with you direct?

Sorry if I missed a post or two above.

maybe you should re read his last post
in it you can clearly tell he knew there was another person

[suchmoon]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Don't see why full chat is needed. It's pretty simple: Did he know you were acting as a man in the middle or was he under the impression he was dealing with you direct?

Sorry if I missed a post or two above.

Looking at the chat log it seems that the OP knew there was a third party but was in direct contact only with amartin99 through most of the deal, including exchanging Skrill/BTC addresses, TX IDs, etc. I find it hard to imagine a plausible excuse for amartin99 to punt this onto someone else now. What if the "third party" refuses to accept responsibility too (because hack?). Where does it stop?

[amartin99]

im not sure how much point there is in continuing arguing this

beleave me or not the fact is I have dealt honestly and openly with everyone
iv lost far more $ here then I have gained
now I have also lost a friend and a business partner
wish I have never started trading
just a big black hole of distrust and scammers justifying the distrust
yea you all think im one of the scammers it's not true but it's also not changeable

O well
getting forced to stop trading is likely the best thing that could happen to me
at least this way I wont loose any more money

[amartin99]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Don't see why full chat is needed. It's pretty simple: Did he know you were acting as a man in the middle or was he under the impression he was dealing with you direct?

Sorry if I missed a post or two above.

Looking at the chat log it seems that the OP knew there was a third party but was in direct contact only with amartin99 through most of the deal, including exchanging Skrill/BTC addresses, TX IDs, etc. I find it hard to imagine a plausible excuse for amartin99 to punt this onto someone else now. What if the "third party" refuses to accept responsibility too (because hack?). Where does it stop?

I received no money and you know it
to suggest I should cover this is just ridicules
NO ONE WOULD and you know that to

[amartin99]

finly figured out how to dig up that  group chat

Code:

[3/2/2016 6:19:11 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I can't keep up with all the chatting
[3/2/2016 6:19:20 PM] Martin Nesbitt: maybe best if you 2 talk to eachother
[3/2/2016 6:19:21 PM] Power SEO Service: Hello
[3/2/2016 6:20:00 PM] Power SEO Service: Total USD Recived  : USD 367.82  - 5% fee = 350$ in BTC
[3/2/2016 6:20:01 PM] Gold Bitcoin: hello
[3/2/2016 6:20:04 PM] Power SEO Service: all is clear so far
[3/2/2016 6:20:08 PM] Power SEO Service: Hi Gold
[3/2/2016 6:20:13 PM] Gold Bitcoin: no
[3/2/2016 6:20:26 PM] Gold Bitcoin: 350 in euro
[3/2/2016 6:20:31 PM] Gold Bitcoin: no in $
[3/2/2016 6:20:34 PM] Gold Bitcoin: please check
[3/2/2016 6:20:37 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/6d980328002dbe00381b19a435298be5
[3/2/2016 6:20:41 PM] Power SEO Service: I recive in $
[3/2/2016 6:20:49 PM] Power SEO Service: total recived in $ = 367.82
[3/2/2016 6:20:59 PM] Power SEO Service: i have sent you 350$ USD in btc
[3/2/2016 6:21:08 PM] Power SEO Service: so all is clear for now. What is problem ?
[3/2/2016 6:21:25 PM] Gold Bitcoin: now can u send 0.41
[3/2/2016 6:21:30 PM] Gold Bitcoin: and how much i send
[3/2/2016 6:21:37 PM] Gold Bitcoin: ?
[3/2/2016 6:23:24 PM] Power SEO Service: 0.41 = 170 eur
[3/2/2016 6:24:00 PM] Gold Bitcoin: sorry 0.51
[3/2/2016 6:24:56 PM] Power SEO Service: 0.51 = 212 eur
[3/2/2016 6:25:51 PM] Gold Bitcoin: now waiting for your funds
[3/2/2016 6:27:46 PM] Power SEO Service: you sent ?
[3/2/2016 6:27:57 PM] Gold Bitcoin: asking client
[3/2/2016 6:28:05 PM] Power SEO Service: what client ?
[3/2/2016 6:28:15 PM] Gold Bitcoin: i send message to client
[3/2/2016 6:28:18 PM] Gold Bitcoin: he is sending
[3/2/2016 6:28:35 PM] Power SEO Service: lol how many people are involved in this excahnge
[3/2/2016 6:28:41 PM] Gold Bitcoin: 4
[3/2/2016 6:28:50 PM] Power SEO Service: (facepalm)
[3/2/2016 6:28:53 PM] Gold Bitcoin: now you can send without any fear
[3/2/2016 6:28:58 PM] Power SEO Service: You also
[3/2/2016 6:29:05 PM] Gold Bitcoin: yea
[3/2/2016 6:29:53 PM] Gold Bitcoin: he saying done
[3/2/2016 6:31:07 PM] Power SEO Service: he sent 200 eur
[3/2/2016 6:31:16 PM] Gold Bitcoin: wait
[3/2/2016 6:31:19 PM] Gold Bitcoin: asking
[3/2/2016 6:31:22 PM] Power SEO Service: ok
[3/2/2016 6:31:30 PM] Power SEO Service: 12 euro less
[3/2/2016 6:33:58 PM] Gold Bitcoin: you taking 5% fees right
[3/2/2016 6:34:03 PM] Power SEO Service: yes
[3/2/2016 6:34:08 PM] Power SEO Service: only because of Martin
[3/2/2016 6:34:11 PM] Power SEO Service: usual fee is 10%
[3/2/2016 6:34:50 PM] Gold Bitcoin: so we have to send 545 for 1.33
[3/2/2016 6:34:53 PM] Gold Bitcoin: right
[3/2/2016 6:35:58 PM] Gold Bitcoin: so we he send 555.5 euro with fees already
[3/2/2016 6:37:02 PM] Gold Bitcoin: and have only 0.8236
[3/2/2016 6:37:09 PM] Power SEO Service: Fee always covered by your side
[3/2/2016 6:37:13 PM] Power SEO Service: and so far i have recived
[3/2/2016 6:37:26 PM] Power SEO Service: 577 USD = 531 EUR
[3/2/2016 6:38:01 PM] Power SEO Service: just send 10 eur more and i will send you 0.51 btc
[3/2/2016 6:42:52 PM] Martin Nesbitt: hello
[3/2/2016 6:43:00 PM] Martin Nesbitt: so what's going on ?
Gold Bitcoin
[3/2/2016 6:43:27 PM] Gold Bitcoin: as i talk you I will send 550 in euro
[3/2/2016 6:43:33 PM] Gold Bitcoin: I send for 1.33
[3/2/2016 6:43:42 PM] Gold Bitcoin: now whats going wrong with this
[3/2/2016 6:43:58 PM] Martin Nesbitt: and how much BTC has been sent ?
[3/2/2016 6:44:34 PM] Power SEO Service: the problem is he dosent understand that he needs to cover the fees
[3/2/2016 6:44:38 PM] Gold Bitcoin: 0.8236 i have
[3/2/2016 6:44:40 PM] Power SEO Service: he is calculating with fees
[3/2/2016 6:44:41 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/d1330253c11b8bbb7d5ab719d2304e4d
[3/2/2016 6:44:44 PM] Power SEO Service: i have recived 577
[3/2/2016 6:44:46 PM] Power SEO Service: usd
[3/2/2016 6:44:55 PM] Power SEO Service: That is 531 EUR
[3/2/2016 6:44:55 PM] Power SEO Service: https://gyazo.com/3ab3219f63e23e345ef24da20e83a85f
[3/2/2016 6:44:58 PM] Gold Bitcoin: but first i talk I will send 550 in euro
[3/2/2016 6:45:02 PM] Power SEO Service: Yes
[3/2/2016 6:45:03 PM] Gold Bitcoin: and i send this all
[3/2/2016 6:45:12 PM] Power SEO Service: i have 531 EUR in account not 550 EUR
[3/2/2016 6:46:35 PM] Gold Bitcoin: I clearly said I will pay 550 in euro
[3/2/2016 6:46:39 PM] Gold Bitcoin: and you can check
[3/2/2016 6:46:56 PM] Power SEO Service: Yes but you need to calculate fees
Gold Bitcoin
[3/2/2016 6:47:20 PM] Gold Bitcoin: with fees alreay 555.5 in euro
[3/2/2016 6:47:28 PM] Martin Nesbitt: fee's should have been brot up after the first send when you had the option to just refund and forget it
[3/2/2016 6:48:01 PM] Power SEO Service: You talking to me Martin ?
[3/2/2016 6:48:21 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well your the one worried about it so yea
[3/2/2016 6:48:31 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you had brot it up when he sent the first 150
[3/2/2016 6:48:45 PM] Gold Bitcoin: I am in big lost right now
[3/2/2016 6:48:50 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you had said I didn't get 150 then it could have been descused before you sent any BTC
[3/2/2016 6:48:53 PM] Gold Bitcoin: I clearly done all before this
[3/2/2016 6:48:58 PM] Power SEO Service: I sent now all btc
[3/2/2016 6:48:59 PM] Power SEO Service: https://blockchain.info/address/17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq
[3/2/2016 6:49:05 PM] Power SEO Service: please never buzz me again for excahnge
[3/2/2016 6:49:06 PM] Power SEO Service: thanks
[3/2/2016 6:49:13 PM] *** Power SEO Service has left ***
[3/2/2016 6:49:24 PM] Gold Bitcoin: but its still less 0.35
[3/2/2016 6:49:27 PM] Gold Bitcoin: 0.035
[3/2/2016 6:49:37 PM] Gold Bitcoin: 0.036
[3/2/2016 6:49:44 PM] Gold Bitcoin: its very poor thing
[3/2/2016 6:49:45 PM] Gold Bitcoin: many
[3/2/2016 6:49:55 PM] Martin Nesbitt: dono what to say
[3/2/2016 6:50:42 PM] Gold Bitcoin: shit
[3/2/2016 6:50:48 PM] Gold Bitcoin: ok thanks any way for this all
[3/2/2016 6:50:56 PM] Gold Bitcoin: martin you ok its not your fault
[3/2/2016 6:51:00 PM] Gold Bitcoin: thanks for this all

[bitcoinmar]

I just came back from Hospital and read this all I am taking full responsibility of this all because all happen just because of me I done mistake and done trade with newbie with reversible method https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384251.0 then this happen all now he is also claiming this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335 I just send a email to skrill about this issue now waiting response from them Until then I cannot do any thing just stopping all from here until I clear this @amartin99 he is not involve in this its me alone just sorry for OP

[xetsr]

here is the full chat text from  Power-SEO-Service
https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt
up untill the merged chat which im not sure how to bring back up
if someone wants to tell me how to hunt that up again ill copy it to

Don't see why full chat is needed. It's pretty simple: Did he know you were acting as a man in the middle or was he under the impression he was dealing with you direct?

Sorry if I missed a post or two above.

maybe you should re read his last post
in it you can clearly tell he knew there was another person

Not sure why he would continue with the deal knowing he wasn't dealing with you and didn't know the other person.

Good luck getting this sorted out. Sounds like anothet man in the middle deal gone wrong, but bitcoinmar is willing to sort it out so you kind of dodged the bullet this time.

You should be more careful or avoid doing man in the middle deals like this in the future unless you want to take responsibility when something goes wrong.

[FriendlyChemist]

I just came back from Hospital and read this all I am taking full responsibility of this all because all happen just because of me I done mistake and done trade with newbie with reversible method https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384251.0 then this happen all now he is also claiming this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335 I just send a email to skrill about this issue now waiting response from them Until then I cannot do any thing just stopping all from here until I clear this @amartin99 he is not involve in this its me alone just sorry for OP

"bitcoinmar" i think your name is well know tipster , correct me if not. Man 550 Euro is a Good Sum of money and no body earns them easily if in right way. It hurts me if a newbie is scammed because they will leave the bitcoin network if things like this happen to them , Man i request you to please clear out this and repay OP with the initial amount. You are a tipster then you can easily make 100$ to 1000$ , but OP cant , moreover 550 euro is all of OP's In-just money.

[amartin99]

thanks bitcoinmar for taking responsibility for this
and I hope people will realize my BIG MOUTH is not your big mouth
it is just not in me to shut up
and im ashamed to say I actually love a good argument


that said  all I did was connect 2 trust worthy people
and tried to keep them from learning each others identities till I got lazy

I am still vary pissed that people think I should have made this good
LIKE HELL it's not my mistake and it's not my trade
I am sorry for the loss, whoever ends up taking it
but made no promises to back the trade

if the guy I set PSS up with yesterday dose a charge back at PP I WILL make that good cause I promised I would
but I made no such promise here and I will not be forced into a $550 loss by anyone

[bitcoinmar]

I just came back from Hospital and read this all I am taking full responsibility of this all because all happen just because of me I done mistake and done trade with newbie with reversible method https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384251.0 then this happen all now he is also claiming this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335 I just send a email to skrill about this issue now waiting response from them Until then I cannot do any thing just stopping all from here until I clear this @amartin99 he is not involve in this its me alone just sorry for OP

"bitcoinmar" i think your name is well know tipster , correct me if not. Man 550 Euro is a Good Sum of money and no body earns them easily if in right way. It hurts me if a newbie is scammed because they will leave the bitcoin network if things like this happen to them , Man i request you to please clear out this and repay OP with the initial amount. You are a tipster then you can easily make 100$ to 1000$ , but OP cant , moreover 550 euro is all of OP's In-just money.

I already post this I am trying my best to solve this but first of all I need some information from Skrill then I can do I am trying my best to solve this and OP have his money back but all this need some time because currently I need some time to settle this
@suchmoon Please delete your negative feedback from @amartin99 because its not right for him also
@OP please wait I will try my best to solve this as I have reply from Skrill sorry for this bad below

[PowerSEOService]

im not sure how much point there is in continuing arguing this

beleave me or not the fact is I have dealt honestly and openly with everyone
iv lost far more $ here then I have gained
now I have also lost a friend and a business partner
wish I have never started trading
just a big black hole of distrust and scammers justifying the distrust
yea you all think im one of the scammers it's not true but it's also not changeable

O well
getting forced to stop trading is likely the best thing that could happen to me
at least this way I wont loose any more money

I never said you are the scammer. I just said that when you get in the exchange business you should be ready to take consequences of your actions.

I only went on with this deal because i trusted you, and as everyone can see in the chat i didnt even know who this "other guy" was and i didnt even asked because i was dealing with you.

I just came back from Hospital and read this all I am taking full responsibility of this all because all happen just because of me I done mistake and done trade with newbie with reversible method https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384251.0 then this happen all now he is also claiming this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335 I just send a email to skrill about this issue now waiting response from them Until then I cannot do any thing just stopping all from here until I clear this @amartin99 he is not involve in this its me alone just sorry for OP

This whole reply and deal just smells like a fucking planned up SCAM from the start !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386978.msg14096335#msg14096335

Name:   aderos
Date Registered:   March 02, 2016, 09:13:52 PM  --- ACCOUNT WAS REGISTERED AFTER EXCHANGE

EXCHANGE HAPPENED IN : https://www.giga-rdp.ca/Power-SEO-Service.txt  [3/2/2016 5:23:52 PM]

IN MY SKYPE : https://gyazo.com/9891cc742a3e125a1d4b0b92193dc2c9  11:26 PM  ( MY TIME IS 1 HOUR DIFFERENCE WITH BITCOINTALK FORUM SERVER TIME ) 

THIS IS ALL JUST ONE BIG HOAX !!

I WAS VICTIM OF A SCAM: somebody appropriated of my identity and made a transaction in bitcoins.
Fortunately i was refunded by my skrill and took control of the account on this forum (thanks to terrytangm who posted me a link to "my" false request of bitcoins on this forum (of wich i ignored the existence).

THREAD OPENED 2 DAYS LATER !
How did the member even know who "aderos" in real is if the hacker opened the account just to post for exchange and if you check posts there is no personal info posted there ?!?!? And he even sent him a "link" to his false request thread, when THREAD IS OPENED THE SAME DAY  ?!?!?

THIS IS BULLSHIT AND BOTH OF YOU KNOW IT ! YOU PLAYED ME WELL !


STRANGE HOW BOTH OF YOU MENTION "REVERSABLE METHODS" IN YOUR TALKS !

Code:

[3/7/2016 10:38:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: you shut down the BTC core and put in a code then reboot it
[3/7/2016 10:38:37 PM] Martin Nesbitt: unconfirmed trades will be removed
[3/7/2016 10:38:41 PM] Power SEO Service: Shut Down the BTC core ???
[3/7/2016 10:38:46 PM] Power SEO Service: put in a code ??/
[3/7/2016 10:38:49 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I just learned that 405 days ago but it worked for me
[3/7/2016 10:41:13 PM] Martin Nesbitt: if you close down the core and re run like this  http://prntscr.com/ack8jo it will clear out all unconfirmed transactions and return the $ to your acocunt
[3/7/2016 10:41:25 PM] Martin Nesbitt: I did it a few days ago and it worked
[3/7/2016 10:41:40 PM] Power SEO Service: hmmm
[3/7/2016 10:41:46 PM] Martin Nesbitt: mind you the transactions where 4 days old not just a few min there may be a timing isu in there
[3/7/2016 10:41:57 PM] Martin Nesbitt: may not work on active bnlocks
[3/7/2016 10:42:03 PM] Power SEO Service: i will try this in some time
[3/7/2016 10:42:11 PM] Power SEO Service: but i doubt it works
[3/7/2016 10:42:29 PM] Martin Nesbitt: http://prntscr.com/ack8xy
[3/7/2016 10:42:36 PM] Martin Nesbitt: well it worked for me

@suchmoon Please delete your negative feedback from @amartin99 because its not right for him also
@OP please wait I will try my best to solve this as I have reply from Skrill sorry for this bad below [/color][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]

What is there sorting out. Just REFUND me my money now IF ALL ABOVE IS NOT CORRECT , than you can sort it out on yourself with skrill.
Wont exclude no one from this until its sorted out. All smells to fishy !

[xetsr]

thanks bitcoinmar for taking responsibility for this
and I hope people will realize my BIG MOUTH is not your big mouth
it is just not in me to shut up
and im ashamed to say I actually love a good argument


that said  all I did was connect 2 trust worthy people
and tried to keep them from learning each others identities till I got lazy

I am still vary pissed that people think I should have made this good
LIKE HELL it's not my mistake and it's not my trade
I am sorry for the loss, whoever ends up taking it
but made no promises to back the trade

if the guy I set PSS up with yesterday dose a charge back at PP I WILL make that good cause I promised I would
but I made no such promise here and I will not be forced into a $550 loss by anyone

You acted as the man in the middle. You don't want to take responsibility... and wonder why you received negative trust?

First you wanted to blame the "forum's security" because you entered your password on a phishing site, now this. I'm not accusing you of anything, nor did I leave negative trust but you can see how it looks.

EDIT:
This doesn't help you either:

One of my off forum trade partners asked me for a large trade of BTC for Skrill
I didn’t have any BTC at the time so I asked “BITCOINMAR” if he could manage it

at first I was planing to hide you 2 from each-others identity so I could be sure to trade with you myself later
you have a lot of BTC and I was planning to do a lot of trading using you as my source for BTC

Then there is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1386622.0

feel I just got scammed out of $270

How do you think this guy feels?

[amartin99]

I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it

[xetsr]

I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it

Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.

Notice how I didn't give you negative feedback? You can look at my posts anyway you want but I was actually trying to help you, again, as this mess WILL affect your business under that account. I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you. Sorry for wasting your time.

[PowerSEOService]

I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it

IF ALL MIDDLEMAN`s THINK LIKE THIS ! EXCHANGES WILL DIE OFF !

What is the middleman`s job ? To ensure the proper dealing between two parties ?!

WHAT ARE MIDDLEMANS BASED ON ? TRUST !

I DEALT WITH YOU ON SKYPE !

ANYWAY MARTIN JUST MADE IT CLEAR AS A DAY I WONT SEE MY FUNDS AGAIN :

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[12:07:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I just didn't want you going to him again later  I wanted to save up some $ myself and be your trader
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either  $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150  I don't see him coming up with $500

Already wasted a lot of time here !

And just so you both know : God`s hand is long, and karma is a bitch !

Wish you both a good day !

[amartin99]

I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it

Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.

You seemed confused once again but I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you.

if it where a smaller amount I would
if it where say $100 id pay it myself just to prove im an honest man
but $550 I just don't feel this is my responsibility
all I did was connect to people for them to make a trade
yes I tried to prevent them from learning who they where dealing with
but I also show'd them many images of each-others text so they would know the response was not coming from me
and they bartered back and forth so much that I got sif of being the middle man and put them in a group chat

I do not agree that a middle man should back the deal
but even if im wrong I ceased to be a middle man when I put them in a group chat  and left them to talk it out
at that point they where on there own and they knew it

[amartin99]

I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it

IF ALL MIDDLEMAN`s THINK LIKE THIS ! EXCHANGES WILL DIE OFF !

What is the middleman`s job ? To ensure the proper dealing between two parties ?!

I DEALT WITH YOU ON SKYPE !

ANYWAY MARTIN JUST MADE IT CLEAR AS A DAY I WONT SEE MY FUNDS AGAIN :

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[12:07:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I just didn't want you going to him again later  I wanted to save up some $ myself and be your trader
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either  $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150  I don't see him coming up with $500

Already wasted a lot of time here !

And just so you both know : God`s hand is long, and karma is a bitch !

Wish you both a good day !

yea well he is trying but I don't think he can
it's an opinion not a fact
I don't know how much $ he has set-aside for trading
but $550 is a lot of $ for someone on a $150 a month income

[amartin99]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship

but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing

[PowerSEOService]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship

but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing

It is about the friendship yes but what is more important is this :

Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.

Notice how I didn't give you negative feedback? You can look at my posts anyway you want but I was actually trying to help you, again, as this mess WILL affect your business under that account. I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you. Sorry for wasting your time.

Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.

https://blockchain.info/address/15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU

This is the address you sent funds to. And i promise i will not move or touch these btc funds until your guy says if he can resolve his issues.

If he can than i will send these funds back to you in a heartbeat.

[amartin99]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship

but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing

It is about the friendship yes but what is more important is this :

Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.

Notice how I didn't give you negative feedback? You can look at my posts anyway you want but I was actually trying to help you, again, as this mess WILL affect your business under that account. I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you. Sorry for wasting your time.

Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.

https://blockchain.info/address/15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU

This is the address you sent funds to. And i promise i will not move or touch these btc funds until your guy says if he can resolve his issues.

If he can than i will send these funds back to you in a heartbeat.

rep is important to me more cause of the type of person I am then cause of trading in the forum
only been here 10-15 days  no big deal to make a new account
but I am now out about $580 since joining this forum
kinda wishing I had never joined this forum
and every last dime of it is cause of scammers here
ALL other trades I have made went threw without problems
im not sure what im going to do

[FriendlyChemist]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550

as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.

Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.

Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.

[PowerSEOService]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550

as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.

Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.

If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.

Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.

Same here and thanks for the kind words.

[suchmoon]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550

as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.

Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.

If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.

Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.

Same here and thanks for the kind words.

Great job amartin99. I posted a neutral for you and will remove the neg once this is sorted out.

[amartin99]

alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550

as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.

Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.

If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.

Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.

Same here and thanks for the kind words.

Great job amartin99. I posted a neutral for you and will remove the neg once this is sorted out.

well that's something
but so long as that neg is in place this account is dead to me
there is no point in even trying to trade
and now you seem to be saying this hole thing is my responsibility
well im not paying the other 1/2 just to get a neg removed
im not at all sure I even want to deal here anymore
in the first 2 weeks I have lost $580 (look at it from any angle you like im still out $580)
and I have learned that the reward for being open and honest is to get held responsible for the vary issue I am trying to help with

honestly suchmoon I am more upset about your actions then any/everything else here
I don't mind arguing
I can even accept im wrong from time to time
but you put a BIG red sign on me calling me a hacker and a scammer
I am NEITHER and im still really pissed about that accusation
it dwarfs everything else to the point of making them irreverent

[PowerSEOService]

Dont worry i am sure they will be removed once this fog settles down, and things cleared.

No need to be upset, its just how things work. Imagine if nobody take actions like suchmoon did.

Than no one would care how the reports will end up, and almost all members that want to make a quick buck can go on a scamming spree`s.

The REP system is there for a reason.

[suchmoon]

honestly suchmoon I am more upset about your actions then any/everything else here
I don't mind arguing
I can even accept im wrong from time to time
but you put a BIG red sign on me calling me a hacker and a scammer
I am NEITHER and im still really pissed about that accusation
it dwarfs everything else to the point of making them irreverent

I did not call you a hacker or a scammer. I stated that you're "involved" in this shitshow and you very much ARE involved no matter how you try to twist your story. I'm also not implying that you need to refund the remaining half. If bitcoinmar comes through with the refund - happy end for everyone.

I'm sorry that you feel more upset about my factual feedback on your account than the actual scam. If you trusted bitcoinmar when brokering the 550 EUR deal you should be able to trust him/her now to resolve the issue. Until that happens perhaps you should spend less time posting and learn how the trust system works. You have various ways to mitigate my feedback if you feel it's unjust.

[amartin99]

I have asked many people how the trust system works and they all either don't respond at all
or say they are not sure

lets have a look at your feedback shall we
(((((   Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that  from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?

involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was  never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam

IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone

you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone

[amartin99]

im being asked by OP to let it go
so in respect for him ill try to calm down

[suchmoon]

I have asked many people how the trust system works and they all either don't respond at all
or say they are not sure

lets have a look at your feedback shall we
(((((   Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that  from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?

involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was  never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam

IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone

you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone

So you admit that you don't understand how the trust system works but that doesn't prevent you from labeling my feedback as "abusive". Same self-serving bias that got you into trouble to begin with.

I have revised my trust comment to clarify the "involvement". Enjoy.

[amartin99]

well that one is at-least honest

you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing

I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault

[suchmoon]

well that one is at-least honest

you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing

I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault

Oh FFS would you stop already... it takes about 3 seconds to google your Bitcointalk profile using your name from the skype screenshots. So yeah you would have been entangled in this scam regardless of your "disclosure", and good job getting in front of it by managing your image here but now you're overdoing it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=martin+nesbitt+bitcointalk

[amartin99]

hmmm
my skyp id is "giga-owner" not "Martin Nesbitt"
though my name is Martin Nesbitt
I thought I was showing as "giga-owner" but perhaps not

whatever
we can go around this all we want but in the end I was trying to help not hurt

im not sure what you mean by "managing your image"
I removed my domain from my account here yes
you have me labeled a scammer so posting my domain here now can only serve to hurt me

I don't wish to let anger control me anymore so I choose to forgive you
ill just right this forum off as a failed test
blame me all you like for that but fact is I came in with $300 to test with (prepared to loose it)
and im down $580 so clearly trading here is a bad move for me
it's time I accepted that and moved on

[deadley]

first of all how people can trust newbie with skrill/neteller even they knew it can be easily reversed.

That is the main reason trusted ex-changer charge fee. Because they took responsibilities of their trade and don't excuse like this.

Next time pay some fee to trusted and experience trader.

[PowerSEOService]

This is not going anywere. BITCOINMAR havent even bothered to reply on this thread, and as Martin mentioned i have 0% chance of getting my funds back.

So i am closing this thread. And let karma catch up with him ( or an Admin can also ).

Cheers