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March 30, 2021, 01:11:20 AM
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Do you think we will see 4 QBs picked with the first 4 draft picks? Atlanta is picking fourth and Matt Ryan is the most expensive QB this year and they are going through a rebuild anyway so it could be a good time to pick his replacement.

I doubt it.  I'm even doubting that the Jets will draft a QB at #2, they have Sam Darnold, who's young and looks like he'll have a promising career.  It wouldn't make financial sense for the Jets to have two high-draft QBs on their roster.  If I was in the Jets position I would trade down and grab as many bargains as I can.  Build up the offensive line and add some depth.  If the Jets don't trade down I suspect Robert Salah will draft a break-out WR or TE.  That would be the smart thing to do.

Matt Ryan is aging, and I can see the Falcons wanting to plan for the future QB, so they may take a QB at #4.  But again, I think they have other pressing needs like an entire pass-defense, lol.

There are so many good QBs in this year's draft some are bound to fall to the lower first round, and many will be bargains in the latter rounds.  That's another reason I believe the 9ers have Wilson in mind with the trade they made.  It really wouldn't make sense for any of the others, including Lawrence, in my opinion.

Historically and statistically speaking a QB is the worst player to draft with the first over-all pick, or any high draft pick.  Tom Brady just put the nail in the coffin for first-round QB draftees.  It'll be decades before anyone can match his accomplishments and it's no guarantee that the one who does will have been a high draft-pick, or even a first-rounder.  The position requires so many intangible attributes to be successful.  Speed, athleticism, and intelligence are the easy metrics to assess, which is why more highly drafted wide receivers enjoy successful NFL careers than highly drafted QBs.  There's so much more that goes into being a good QB, and many of those attributes have yet to be defined, let alone metered.  

Think about the best QBs in the league right now; Aaron Rodgers should have been picked fist by the 49ers, but that fumbling dumbass Mike Nolan chose Alex Smith instead.  Brady was a sixth round pick, selected to carry water for the practice squad.  Mahomes was passed up by nine teams before KC chose him, and Trubisky was selected before him.  There's no rhyme or reason for it.  If you take (arguably) the two best QBs to ever play the game; Montana and Brady try to mimic what Walsh and Belichick did to make those choices...  Where would you start?  Both coaches reputedly said that it was dumb luck.

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April 02, 2021, 06:47:09 PM
Merited by Hueristic (1)
 #1142

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All very good and solid points and I do not find a flaw in the argument you make, but I have two problems with this, I will let the first to be made by Hueristic.



We are talking about the Jets and everything is possible when it comes to them.

My second point is that the draft is a market just like this one and FOMO can take place, GMs can panic just as a trader or investor and I think there is the possibility teams will try to overreach and try to get their QB no matter the cost, lets see what imposes itself if reason or emotion.



And in something we knew was coming 17 regular-season games were approved by the owners a few days ago, this will inflate stats during the regular season and make way easier to break records imposed during the 16  regular-season games era while at the same time making it more difficult for good teams to be in good health during the post-season.


Source: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-season-to-feature-17-regular-season-games-per-team



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April 10, 2021, 04:36:26 PM
Merited by Hueristic (1)
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We are talking about the Jets and everything is possible when it comes to them.

God damn Jets is right.  I'm sure you've all heard the news by now; they traded Sam Darnold to the Panthers.  It's absolutely certain they'll draft a QB now, and very likely they'll pick Wilson.  All the local professional talkers have the Niners picking Mac Jones at 3.  I'm not sure myself.  Jones wouldn't be a bad choice, but is he worth three years' worth of first-rounders?


And in something we knew was coming 17 regular-season games were approved by the owners a few days ago, this will inflate stats during the regular season and make way easier to break records imposed during the 16  regular-season games era while at the same time making it more difficult for good teams to be in good health during the post-season.

Source: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-season-to-feature-17-regular-season-games-per-team

Pre-season is reduced from 4 to 3 games, so the effective length of the season is about the same.  I think the league has been talking about this ever since the Patriots won all 16 regular season games in 2007.  The last thing the NFL wants is one team to dominate enough to have a "perfect season."  They've been trying to achieve "parity" in the effort to give each team an equal chances of winning the championship.  A 17th game (a 5th inter-conference one,) could have the desired effect. 

It might also help offset their steadily declining revenues, lol.  Cheesy

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Today at 04:19:01 AM
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NFL experts of this thread, is there a chance for Jimmy Garoppolo to return to the Patriots and reunite with Bill Belichik? I am quite certain Cam Newton will not be their starting quarterback if they want to play in the playoffs.

I speculate that Jimmy Garoppolo might have a better expectation to be NFL regular season MVP if he plays for the Patriots. 91.82 odds in sportsbet.io, more than 10x than an ICO from 2017 hehehe.

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Today at 05:17:23 AM
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It might also help offset their steadily declining revenues, lol.  Cheesy

I know that's most likely why they're doing it but I could never understand how exactly they're expecting it to work out. Renegotiate TV contracts? Are the advertisers actually going to pay more? For what exactly? Am I supposed to drink more beer than usual just because there is an extra NFL game?

It seems to me that it's a zero sum proposition, same money will get spread a bit thinner, there won't be hordes of new fans bringing new money, and existing fans may be more likely to skip one or two games because there will be more of those where top players are resting before playoffs etc.

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