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[BitcoinSupremo]

@cryptojac17. Mercedes might also be ahead of them in chassis development. Look how dominant they are in the last 4 years. I reckon even if they are behind in aerodynamics and other engineering aspects, their engine advantage will still put them on top.

McClaren is a good example of a car with a good chassis but the engine's power is so low it cannot finish in the top 10 consistently.  

Mercedes's dominance in engine design is hardly earned due to their long time experience in F1. But their advantage in engine superiority is just temporary, because its just a slight difference. They were not able to find the exact formula. But later on in the competition they can find a design that dominates the entire race track.

That's why Mclaren is switching to a Renault engine next year. If they keep the best chassis even for next year that will be a major boost and they will be fighting to win races and also to win the title. Renault engine is not the most powerful engine in the series but together with a good chassis the Renault engine can do wonders as we have seen in the RedBull/Renault partnership during these last years.

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[cryptojac17]

Congratulations to Marc Marquez who have just won his 4th MotoGP Championship Title, last race was so thrilling when Marquez was almost getting down but he took so risky action so he did not fall down. It could be a drama if he fell on that race, unlucky for Dovi he could not even finish the race. What an anti-climax season for Dovi. Next season might be more interesting imho, I would like to see more competitive riders like Vinales, Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo.

No doubt Mark Marquez would be the wold champion this season because he is agressive he dare some risky move to make him a head among all in the race track. But also excited to see Valentino Rossi the veteran to come back to the number  one spot.

[siti25]

Congratulations to Marc Marquez who have just won his 4th MotoGP Championship Title, last race was so thrilling when Marquez was almost getting down but he took so risky action so he did not fall down. It could be a drama if he fell on that race, unlucky for Dovi he could not even finish the race. What an anti-climax season for Dovi. Next season might be more interesting imho, I would like to see more competitive riders like Vinales, Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo.

No doubt Mark Marquez would be the wold champion this season because he is agressive he dare some risky move to make him a head among all in the race track. But also excited to see Valentino Rossi the veteran to come back to the number  one spot.

Congratulations to Marc Marquez who managed to become Moto GP world champion this season. I myself do not really like Marquez but I can not say out of fact, he's the best over the last few years, I'll admit. He's almost the same as the young Valentino Rossi. Young Rossi's spirit is now visible inside Marc.

[cicciobtc]

Standing Motogp 2017:

1 Marquez   298
2 Dovizioso  261      -37
3 Vinales     230      -68
4 Pedrosa    210      -88
5 Rossi         208      -90
6 Zarco        174    -124
7 Lorenzo     137    -161
8 Petrucci    124    -174
9 Crutchlow  112   -186
10 Folger      84     -214


Congratulations to Marquez for his sixth career title.
An amazing season for Dovizioso who managed to stay in the fight until the last race.
Unlucky V. Rossi for the injury that affected the end of the season.
Vinales in the second part of the season was disappointing.
Bad season for Lorenzo

[cicciobtc]

Standings Drivers F1 after 19 of 20 races:

1.Hamilton        345     gap

2.Vettel              302     -43
3.Bottas             280     -65

4.Ricciardo         200   -145
5.Raikkonen       193   -152

6.Verstappen      158    -187

7.Perez                 94    -251
8.Ocon                  83    -262

9.Sainz                  54    -291
10.Stroll                40    -303


Vettel with 3 points will close the season in second place.
Raikkonen wants to try to get in fourth place, but he has to retrieve 7 points at Ricciardo.

The next and last race will be on 26/11 in Abu Dhabi

[cicciobtc]

There will be 24 riders in Motogp in 2018 with 4 new riders:
 Simeon (Ducati), Nagakami (Honda), Luthi (Honda) and Morbidelli (Honda) winner of the Moto2 championship.

There will be:

8 Ducati (Dovizioso, Lorenzo, Petrucci, Abraham,Bautista, Miller, Rabat, Simeon)
6 Honda (Marquez, Pedrosa, Crutchlow, Morbidelli, Luthi, Nakagami)
4 Yamaha (Rossi, Vinales, Zarco, Folger)
2 Suzuki (Iannone, Rins)
2 Aprilia (Redding, Aleix Espargaro)
2 KTM (Smith, Pol Espargaro)

[cryptojac17]

Congratulations to Marc Marquez who have just won his 4th MotoGP Championship Title, last race was so thrilling when Marquez was almost getting down but he took so risky action so he did not fall down. It could be a drama if he fell on that race, unlucky for Dovi he could not even finish the race. What an anti-climax season for Dovi. Next season might be more interesting imho, I would like to see more competitive riders like Vinales, Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo.

No doubt Mark Marquez would be the wold champion this season because he is agressive he dare some risky move to make him a head among all in the race track. But also excited to see Valentino Rossi the veteran to come back to the number  one spot.

Congratulations to Marc Marquez who managed to become Moto GP world champion this season. I myself do not really like Marquez but I can not say out of fact, he's the best over the last few years, I'll admit. He's almost the same as the young Valentino Rossi. Young Rossi's spirit is now visible inside Marc.

yeah agree on you that Marc Marquez seems reincarnated young Valentino Rossi's time, and of course the racing machine he is using is also a big factor
Honda power is superb, but the big factor also affecting is his aggressiveness in the race and during trial because positioning also play important role in the start of the race. 

[Dux2K]

There will be 24 riders in Motogp in 2018 with 4 new riders:
 Simeon (Ducati), Nagakami (Honda), Luthi (Honda) and Morbidelli (Honda) winner of the Moto2 championship.

There will be:

8 Ducati (Dovizioso, Lorenzo, Petrucci, Abraham,Bautista, Miller, Rabat, Simeon)
6 Honda (Marquez, Pedrosa, Crutchlow, Morbidelli, Luthi, Nakagami)
4 Yamaha (Rossi, Vinales, Zarco, Folger)
2 Suzuki (Iannone, Rins)
2 Aprilia (Redding, Aleix Espargaro)
2 KTM (Smith, Pol Espargaro)

With this seem like Ducati is aiming for the title next season or my first look on this is wrong.
Honda will again dominate Yamaha need to improve wet races driving and Ducati need to improve tire consumption

[cicciobtc]

It is official: Robert Kubica Official Drive to Williams in Abu Dhabi test!
If these tests are positive, it's likely that next year Kubica will be Williams's official driver.

it's really amazing that after the bad accident Kubica can return to be a F1 driver

[tokeweed]

Final race of the season guys.  Let's hope it's a good one.  I'd like to see RBR's Daniel Ricciardo win this one.  He such a cool character off the grid, it's hard not to like him.

Here's the schedule this weekend.

2017 Abu Dhabi GP Time Table
All times are local (Abu Dhabi is GMT +4)

Thursday 23 November
15:00 – 16:00: FIA press conference

Friday 24 November
13:00 – 14:30: First free practice
17:00 – 18:30: Second free practice
19:00 : FIA press conference

Saturday 25 November
11:30 – 12:00: Team pit stop practice
14:00 – 15:00: Third free practice
17:00 – 18:00: Qualifying
18:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday 26 November
15:30: Drivers’ track parade
16:46: National anthem
17:00 – 19:00: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
19:00: FIA post-race press conference

[cicciobtc]

Final race of the season guys.  Let's hope it's a good one.  I'd like to see RBR's Daniel Ricciardo win this one.  He such a cool character off the grid, it's hard not to like him.

Here's the schedule this weekend.

2017 Abu Dhabi GP Time Table
All times are local (Abu Dhabi is GMT +4)

Thursday 23 November
15:00 – 16:00: FIA press conference

Friday 24 November
13:00 – 14:30: First free practice
17:00 – 18:30: Second free practice
19:00 : FIA press conference

Saturday 25 November
11:30 – 12:00: Team pit stop practice
14:00 – 15:00: Third free practice
17:00 – 18:00: Qualifying
18:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday 26 November
15:30: Drivers’ track parade
16:46: National anthem
17:00 – 19:00: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
19:00: FIA post-race press conference

I expect a fun race, everyone will try to win this race to close the season as best as possible.
Ferrari has never won in Abu Dhabi and Hamilton seems to be the big favorite, but Red Bull could surprise everyone.
If Red Bull wins this race will give a big signal for next season when I'm convinced it will be the protagonist

[cicciobtc]

Fp1+Fp2 Abu Dhabi Gp:

1 Hamilton Mercedes 1:37:877
2 Vettel       Ferrari       +0:149
3 Ricciardo Red Bull     +0:303
4 Raikkonen Ferrari      +0:475
5 Bottas Mercedes       +0:660
6 Verstappen Red Bull  +1:017
7 Perez Force India       +1:446
8 Ocon Force India        +1:456
9 Hulkenberg Renault    +1:652
10 Alonso McLaren        +1:682
11 Massa Williams         +1:758
12 Vandoorne McLaren  +1:794
13 Sainz Jr Renault         +2:324
14 Stroll Williams          +2:452
15 Gasly Toro Rosso       +2:817
16 Magnussen Haas       +3:251
17 Wehrlein Sauber        +3:393
18 Ericsson Sauber         +3:425
19  Hartley Toro Rosso    +3:619
20 Grosjean Haas           +3:683

Hamilton, Vettel and Ricciardo are very close and most likely they will try to win the last Gp of the season

[cicciobtc]

Pole Position F1 Abu Dhabi top 10:

1)Bottas       Mercedes   1:36:231 (new record of track)
2)Hamilton   Mercedes     +0.172

3)Vettel         Ferrari          +0.628
4)Ricciardo    Red Bull       +0.728
5)Raikkonen  Ferrari          +0.754
6)Verstappen Red Bull       +1.097

7)Hulkenberg Renault        +2.051
8 Perez           Force India   +2.143
9)Ocon           Force India    +2.166
10)Massa       Williams       +3.319

Mercedes seems unbeatable.
The gap is very high

[Dux2K]

Pole Position F1 Abu Dhabi top 10:

1)Bottas       Mercedes   1:36:231 (new record of track)
2)Hamilton   Mercedes     +0.172

3)Vettel         Ferrari          +0.628
4)Ricciardo    Red Bull       +0.728
5)Raikkonen  Ferrari          +0.754
6)Verstappen Red Bull       +1.097

7)Hulkenberg Renault        +2.051
8 Perez           Force India   +2.143
9)Ocon           Force India    +2.166
10)Massa       Williams       +3.319

Mercedes seems unbeatable.
The gap is very high

This is Mercedes track and seem that it will be hard to any to beat them here more important will be how will it end and who will be on 4th place at the championship.

[LTU_btc]

Quite boring race to watch. Absolute dominance of Mercedes. And there is no big surprise that Bottas won today. I'm very sad for Ricciardo - last part of season was very bad for him. Similar unlucky period like Verstappen had in first part of the season.
Season ended and 4 months left until new season. Now it will be interesting to follow news of contract signings and preparations for the new season.

[bbc.reporter]

@LTU_btc. Me too. I did not care enough to stay at home and watch the race. But I am eager for the next season, especially on the future developments of McLaren and their new engine supplier, Renault.

I reckon Fernando Alonso is entitled to much more than what his team is presently giving him.

[bitcoinmaster44]

Do you think that Robert Kubica will become F1 driver next season??

This would be the best comeback history, a perfect marketing tool for williams and marketing/promotion is a big part of Formula 1.

What do you think?


You can bet on OneHash about this https://www.onehash.com/event/sport/motorsport/formula_1/144229

[cicciobtc]

Quite boring race to watch. Absolute dominance of Mercedes. And there is no big surprise that Bottas won today. I'm very sad for Ricciardo - last part of season was very bad for him. Similar unlucky period like Verstappen had in first part of the season.
Season ended and 4 months left until new season. Now it will be interesting to follow news of contract signings and preparations for the new season.

Final result Gp Abu Dhabi:

1 Bottas Mercedes      1:34:14:062
2 Hamilton Mercedes        +3:899
3 Vettel Ferrari                 +19:330
4 Raikkonen Ferrari         +45:386
5 Verstappen Red Bull     +46:269
6 Hulkenberk Renault  +1:25:713
7 Perez Force India      +1:32:062
8 Ocon Force India       +1:38:911
9 Alonso McLaren            + 1 lap
10 Massa Williams          + 1 lap

yes, it was a very tedious GP with no emotion and no overtaking.
the Mercedes has dominated this GP and seems unbeatable again.

[azguard]

@LTU_btc. Me too. I did not care enough to stay at home and watch the race. But I am eager for the next season, especially on the future developments of McLaren and their new engine supplier, Renault.

I reckon Fernando Alonso is entitled to much more than what his team is presently giving him.

Second on race boring is quite the small word. But for McLaren next season is to be or not to be from my perspective on thing in that team. Hope they will be competitive team next season after all they were champions and they have so many champion on the team.

Until next season this is it.

[udet4food]

What do you guys think about the new F1 logo?
Tbh I think it looks really ugly and kinda reminds me of Sega's. Even the drivers (Hamilton and Vettel in particular) are questioning the change.
I just love how the 1 integrated into the F and I don't think Liberty Media should just replace this iconic logo with this PoS.