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[slocker]

This weekend motogp has canceled due to have rain. Tried to watch but again rain delay everything, think it was same last year or motogp race didnt even been. Can't recall. Watching race tomorrow will be testing cuz they rescheduled everything i moved every race 2 hours earlier.

[slocker]

Watched rerun of this race, accident also cost Rossi any chance of beating Dovizioso for second in the 2018 world championship.

2018 MotoGP Malaysia - Race Results
 
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 40m 32.372s
2. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 40m 34.270s
3. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 40m 34.846s
4. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 40m 37.039s
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 40m 38.562s
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 40m 43.620s
7. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 40m 47.983s
8. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 40m 51.381s
9. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 40m 55.293s
10. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 40m 59.291s
11. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 1.875s
12. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 3.305s
13. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda (RC213V) 41m 7.694s
14. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 41m 10.284s
15. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 41m 12.047s
16. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 14.192s
17. Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP17)* 41m 16.350s
18. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 41m 30.660s
19. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 32.563s

Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) DNF
Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) DNF
Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) DNF
Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) DNF

[LTU_btc]

Verstappen was leading today and had great chance to win and then this accident happened:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061696911617404928
Occon tried to unlap himself but he hit Verstappen. It was fault of Occon, but on the other hand Verstappen didn't left enough place for Occon.
And after race Verstappen showed very unprofessional behaviour:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061716317231665153

[Juggy777]

Verstappen was leading today and had great chance to win and then this accident happened:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061696911617404928
Occon tried to unlap himself but he hit Verstappen. It was fault of Occon, but on the other hand Verstappen didn't left enough place for Occon.
And after race Verstappen showed very unprofessional behaviour:
https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1061716317231665153

It was sheer bad luck for Verstappen these things do happen in these high tempo races, however I feel Occon should have done better. I think Verstappen behaved immaturely, and I can't believe that the crew was just standing there. I believe he would have gotten away had he just exchanged words, but he laid a hand on Occon not once but thrice, and that's not acceptable at all he'll be banned and fined.

[slocker]

True i was hopping for him to win but like you said this is race rhythm and he just made mistake that cost him win.
However this can be very good experience for him and his carrier.

[swogerino]

I did not watch the race on Sunday but I wish I did. I am seeing a lot of hilariois fun videos on youtube and social media about the fight between Ocon and Verstappen. I don't support neither of them so my opinion is neutral but I think on fault here is Ocon.

Although you maybe faster because of new tires you should not crash into the race leader when you try to unlap yourself.

[bbc.reporter]

@swogerino. Esteban Ocon had every right to fight back and unlap himself, but agreed that it was his fault. But Max should also have been aware that he had more to lose than the other driver.

That should be the correct way to approach the situation, I reckon.

[swogerino]

Yeah I know but as I said since you are one lap behind he should have been a bit more cautious against the leader. I am no fan of Verstappen or anyone else, I just like real racing and I know these things happen but the race would have been different if the crash was avoided, not that would have changed anything in the leaderboard. Overall it was a beautiful season so far.

[Juggy777]

Yeah I know but as I said since you are one lap behind he should have been a bit more cautious against the leader. I am no fan of Verstappen or anyone else, I just like real racing and I know these things happen but the race would have been different if the crash was avoided, not that would have changed anything in the leaderboard. Overall it was a beautiful season so far.

I'll agree the fault definitely lies with Ocon here, but then such accidents do take place in these races. I'm expecting Verstappen to fight for the title next season. In my opinion Vettel has been disappointing this season, he's not mounting a significant challenge hence I feel he won't be winning it next year, my money is on Verstappen to dethrone Hamilton. This particular season we'll saw Hamilton win it with barely any challenge, I feel the new season will be of Verstappen. What do you'll think can he dethrone Hamilton? Or will it be Hamilton season again.

[tokeweed]

I guess I don't owe anybody here any money?  Lololol.  Ferrari finished above RBR, but Verstappen finished above Ricciardo, yeah?

I think RBR could finish above Ferrari next year...  Wanna go at it again Ltu_btc? 

[slocker]

Valencia qualifying results

1. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 31.312s [Lap 7/8] 314km/h (Top Speed)
2. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.380s +0.068s [Lap 7/9] 312k
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 31.392s +0.080s [Lap 8/9] 319k
4. Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 31.414s +0.102s [Lap 8/8] 314k
5. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.442s +0.130s [Lap 4/5] 316k
6. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 31.577s +0.265s [Lap 7/8] 315k
7. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.629s +0.317s [Lap 8/9] 312k
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 31.630s +0.318s [Lap 9/9] 308k
9. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.140s +0.828s [Lap 8/9] 314k
10. Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 32.145s +0.833s [Lap 4/6] 311k
11. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.179s +0.867s [Lap 4/6] 313k
12. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 32.310s +0.998s [Lap 7/8] 318k
13. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 31.900s 315k
14. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 31.928s 308k
15. Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.385s 309k
16. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 32.452s 312k
17. Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.545s 309k
18. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 32.547s 314k
19. Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 32.568s 314k
20. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.708s 319k
21. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 32.749s 312k
22. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 33.011s 309k
23. Jordi Torres SPA Reale Avintia (GP16) 1m 34.427s 311k
24. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 35.171s 307k

[LTU_btc]

I guess I don't owe anybody here any money?  Lololol.  Ferrari finished above RBR, but Verstappen finished above Ricciardo, yeah?

I think RBR could finish above Ferrari next year...  Wanna go at it again Ltu_btc? 

Yeah, you don't owe me money, same like I don't owe you
Brave prediction about Red Bull. I'm sceptical about them and Honda engines in upcoming season. Maybe we should wait at least until pre-season tests?

[slocker]

Last race in motogp was as it should been only that some riders didnt crash but race was with wet conditions and remind me on formula1 race in Monte Carlo 20 or more years ago when only 5-6 of the finish the race.

Shame for Rossi he had paste but win it good for Dovi he ended like he started, great result for KTM driver Pol Espargaro finishing on podium.

FULL RACE RESULTS race 19 of 19

1. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 24m 3.408s
2. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 24m 6.158s
3. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 24m 10.814s
4. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 24m 12.055s
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 24m 16.759s
6. Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 24m 35.696s
7. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 24m 36.214s
8. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 24m 36.519s
9. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda (RC213V) 24m 39.784s
10. Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 24m 40.606s
11. Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 24m 47.734s
12. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 24m 49.554s
13. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 24m 56.217s
14. Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 25m 14.036s
16. Jordi Torres SPA Reale Avintia (GP16) 25m 20.147s

Did not finish this race

Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) DNF
Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) DNS Part2
Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) DNS Part2
Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) DNS Part2
Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) DNS Part2
Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) DNS Part2
Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) DNS Part2
Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* DNS Part2
Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* DNS Part2

[tokeweed]

I guess I don't owe anybody here any money?  Lololol.  Ferrari finished above RBR, but Verstappen finished above Ricciardo, yeah?

I think RBR could finish above Ferrari next year...  Wanna go at it again Ltu_btc? 

Yeah, you don't owe me money, same like I don't owe you
Brave prediction about Red Bull. I'm sceptical about them and Honda engines in upcoming season. Maybe we should wait at least until pre-season tests?

Sure let's wait. 

I'm pretty excited with RBR's move with Honda tho.  I think they may have some development that McLaren wasn't able take full advantage of.

[slocker]

Anyone have any information that Kubica will returning to former team and for me this is good information and think he will give at least some good technical information about car at least. This will be good and maybe some good moves for Williams teams hope they will be good with him next season.

[LTU_btc]

Anyone have any information that Kubica will returning to former team and for me this is good information and think he will give at least some good technical information about car at least. This will be good and maybe some good moves for Williams teams hope they will be good with him next season.

Great news! I'm so happy for Robert, he was one of the my favorite drivers in past. But honestly, I don't expect amazing results from him. First of all, a lot of time passed since he raced in F1, he is 34 years old and his prime already in past. And his hand injury also have impact. Now Williams have worst car in F1 and they need to seriously improve it to be competetive with teams like Haas or Toro Rosso. Offcourse, Kubica is much better choice than Stroll or Sirotkin.

[Juggy777]

Anyone have any information that Kubica will returning to former team and for me this is good information and think he will give at least some good technical information about car at least. This will be good and maybe some good moves for Williams teams hope they will be good with him next season.

Hey yes it's confirmed he's indeed racing for Williams, an interesting choice I must say he has lots of experience but at 34 years, and those injuries he's carrying I'm not sure how this comeback will go down in history. While I respect his resilient to come back despite that horrific crash, I don't expect to see any wonders for him or Williams. If Williams really wishes to make something of his comeback, then they seriously need to upgrade their cars which they haven't done in a while now.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46300009

[tokeweed]

^  Williams prolly knows more than us about Kubica's real situation.  That or he could be backed by some Polish billionaire and is now a pay driver. 

[slocker]

^  Williams prolly knows more than us about Kubica's real situation.  That or he could be backed by some Polish billionaire and is now a pay driver. 

You think this could be the case. Who knows but this is something to look for. More concern to me will be Red Bull and Honda cooperation next season. Kubica is just another driver in the circus or more he is bring to maybe somehow get some better car for season after next one. This is my opinion on this.

[tokeweed]

^  Pretty confident in the Newey magic.  Lol.  But really, I think they have something up their sleeve for 2019.  I mean why the switch to Honda?  Seems too drastic.  And if their taking a gamble then Newey prolly really has something going on.