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[swogerino]

Yesterday race was amazing. It was a hard fought battle till the end of the race. It was a great win by Andrea Dovizioso and I hope this Championship remains as open as this first race was.

This upcoming weekend we have the first F1 race and a lot of young drivers to check out so I will be watching this first race on Sunday.

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[Juggy777]

Yesterday race was amazing. It was a hard fought battle till the end of the race. It was a great win by Andrea Dovizioso and I hope this Championship remains as open as this first race was.

This upcoming weekend we have the first F1 race and a lot of young drivers to check out so I will be watching this first race on Sunday.

Hey it looks like this sport is finally getting competitive again, last few seasons due to lack of competition this sport was loosing it’s sheen. I missed watching yesterday’s race but read it was a close one, I feel this sets the tone for all the races ahead. I’m personally hoping that this year we have a new champion, and like you said let’s hope those young drivers do offer stiff competition to the experienced drivers.

[slocker]

Yesterday race was amazing. It was a hard fought battle till the end of the race. It was a great win by Andrea Dovizioso and I hope this Championship remains as open as this first race was.

This upcoming weekend we have the first F1 race and a lot of young drivers to check out so I will be watching this first race on Sunday.

Hey it looks like this sport is finally getting competitive again, last few seasons due to lack of competition this sport was loosing it’s sheen. I missed watching yesterday’s race but read it was a close one, I feel this sets the tone for all the races ahead. I’m personally hoping that this year we have a new champion, and like you said let’s hope those young drivers do offer stiff competition to the experienced drivers.

Just dont get to excited you know. There were moment last year when i tough that this will be competitive again but eventually we see that Ducati is way to fast, Honda is balance and Yamaha is slow. Seem like nothing change but progress is made Suzuki big time.

Can wait to see next race and then we can discuss little more on this topic. Now we stay to see formula 1 for this weekend.

[LTU_btc]

F1 season finally starts this weekend. What are your thoughts before it? Personally, I'm not going to predict something just after seeing pre season testing results, but I hope that season will be interesting. How Red Bull will perform with Honda engines and Mclaren with Renault engines. Also, it will be interesting see Leclerc in Ferarri, Ricciardo in Renault or Kimi in Alfa Romeo.

[bbc.reporter]

@LTU_btc. I reckon McLaren will be better this year compared to the last how many challenging years hehehe. I also reckon that it might win versus the Renault and the Haas to be the top among the middle teams.

[swogerino]

I hope Mclaren to be better too but I think the Renault engine might be an obstacle, it is not the best in the field unless they have improved it during winter testing which in official testing didn't result so.

I am excited fo F1 to begin but I am sad with the passing of Charlie Whiting , my thoughts are with his family and friends. He was a great man in F1 world.

[slocker]

@LTU_btc. I reckon McLaren will be better this year compared to the last how many challenging years hehehe. I also reckon that it might win versus the Renault and the Haas to be the top among the middle teams.

That is true. Hopping to see some "improvement" in there car. But think something similar was last season they show good performance in testing but when race comes major drop in performance. Alonso was key player in that team but he could not do anything alone, he was good in must say perfect driver he communicate with team and they tried but they could not do anything. We will see for the weekend is there some changes.

[LTU_btc]

I am excited fo F1 to begin but I am sad with the passing of Charlie Whiting , my thoughts are with his family and friends. He was a great man in F1 world.

News about death of Charkie Whiting was shocking. He will be missed in F1. Rest in Peace...

@LTU_btc. I reckon McLaren will be better this year compared to the last how many challenging years hehehe. I also reckon that it might win versus the Renault and the Haas to be the top among the middle teams.

With new engine provider I alos have bigger expectations from Mclaren. For me it will be very interesting to watch Ricciardo performance in Renault, but I'm afraid that leaving Red Bull wasn't best his decisions. There is also news that driver who will make fastest lap in race and finnish in top 10 will get additional 1 point

[slocker]

Formula 1 2019 Australian Grand Prix - Qualifying Results

1. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport 1m20.486s
2. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport + 0.112s
3. Sebastian Vettel GER Scuderia Ferrari + 0.704s
4. Max Verstappen NED Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda + 0.834s
5. Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari + 0.956s
6. Romain Grosjean FRA Rich Energy Haas F1 Team + 1.340s
7. Kevin Magnussen DEN Rich Energy Haas F1 Team + 1.613s
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team + 1.818s
9. Kimi Raikkonen ITA Alfa Romeo Racing + 1.828s
10. Sergio Perez MEX SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team + 2.295s
11. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault F1 Team 1m22.562s
12. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Renault F1 Team 1m22.570s
13. Alexander Albon THA Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda 1m22.636s
14. Antonio Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo Racing 1m22.714s
15. Daniil Kvyat RUS Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda 1m22.774s
16. Lance Stroll CAN SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team 1m23.017s
17. Pierre Gasly FRA Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda 1m23.020s
18. Carlos Sainz ESP McLaren F1 Team 1m23.084s
19. George Russell GBR  ROKiT Williams Racing 1m24.360s
20. Robert Kubica POL ROKiT Williams Racing 1m26.067s
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Qualifying. Nothing new, Mercedes is fast, Ferrari "slow", improvement Mclaren in top 10 in first race. Teams to look for Alfa Romeo Racing. Just first impression. Williams I will not count cuz they are near bankrupt.

There is also news that driver who will make fastest lap in race and finnish in top 10 will get additional 1 point

This is true but this point will count to those who made fastest lap and finish race in top 10, more in points.

[LTU_btc]

0 comments after first F1 race of the season? C'mon, where are you guys!? What a confident win of Bottas! I think that Mercedes made mistake by making Hamilton pit stop so early, because Bottas had great pace with same age tyres and only made pit stop 8 laps later. But probably pit stop of Hamilton was just an reaction to pit stop of Vettel.
It wasn't good race for Ferarri, they weren't able to compete with Mercedes today. Also, Vettel lost position to Verstappen. And we saw good old team orders again when Ferarri didn't let Leclerc to try overtake Vettel.
Terrible start of season for Ricciardo - accident in start and early retirement.
Despite change of engine supplier Mclaren still looks bad, meanwhile Red Bull with Honda engines can compete with Ferarri or even Mercedes. But maybe it's too early to make such conclusion just after one race.

[Juggy777]

0 comments after first F1 race of the season? C'mon, where are you guys!? What a confident win of Bottas! I think that Mercedes made mistake by making Hamilton pit stop so early, because Bottas had great pace with same age tyres and only made pit stop 8 laps later. But probably pit stop of Hamilton was just an reaction to pit stop of Vettel.
It wasn't good race for Ferarri, they weren't able to compete with Mercedes today. Also, Vettel lost position to Verstappen. And we saw good old team orders again when Ferarri didn't let Leclerc to try overtake Vettel.
Terrible start of season for Ricciardo - accident in start and early retirement.
Despite change of engine supplier Mclaren still looks bad, meanwhile Red Bull with Honda engines can compete with Ferarri or even Mercedes. But maybe it's too early to make such conclusion just after one race.

The first race of the season starts in a typical fashion with Mercedes winning it, only twist was it was Bottas who won and not Hamilton. I said it last year and will say it again Ferrari, were absolutely poor and if they continue like this I don't think they'll win this season. Also do you'll think if Bottas wins more races, Mercedes will sacrifice Hamilton and allow him to be the new champion.

[LTU_btc]

Also do you'll think if Bottas wins more races, Mercedes will sacrifice Hamilton and allow him to be the new champion.

I don't think it's going to happen, Mercedes simply will not let Bottas to win many races. Hamilton will remain to be their favoured driver and Bottas still will be their second driver. I think this win is like a compensation for things that happened in previous season. It's impossible for Bottas to repeat story of Rosberg.

[bbc.reporter]

0 comments after first F1 race of the season? C'mon, where are you guys!? What a confident win of Bottas! I think that Mercedes made mistake by making Hamilton pit stop so early, because Bottas had great pace with same age tyres and only made pit stop 8 laps later. But probably pit stop of Hamilton was just an reaction to pit stop of Vettel.
It wasn't good race for Ferarri, they weren't able to compete with Mercedes today. Also, Vettel lost position to Verstappen. And we saw good old team orders again when Ferarri didn't let Leclerc to try overtake Vettel.
Terrible start of season for Ricciardo - accident in start and early retirement.
Despite change of engine supplier Mclaren still looks bad, meanwhile Red Bull with Honda engines can compete with Ferarri or even Mercedes. But maybe it's too early to make such conclusion just after one race.

I reckon most of the people in the forum think it is boring.

In any case, the same strategy used by Toto Wolff. Pretend that they have a slower and a difficult to manage car than Ferrari during testing then pretend to be surprised that they have more speed than the Ferrari during race day hehehe.

[slocker]

This race was very boring, start was only good part of the race. However still we have Mercedes dominance in Australia, Ferrari struggling yet again, and seem like Honda have good performance and issue all this years was McLaren engineers. Honda work perfectly with RB, so it comes to me that McLaren will never again make some good car they always say someone else is to blame for this.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon the warmer track temperatures of Bahrain might be what Ferrari needs to win the race. Barcelona had warmer temperatures and they did very good in testing before the season started.

In any case, if Ferrari ends behind Redbull again, I reckon that the Honda engine might be more powerful than what was first thought of it.

[Juggy777]

I reckon the warmer track temperatures of Bahrain might be what Ferrari needs to win the race. Barcelona had warmer temperatures and they did very good in testing before the season started.

In any case, if Ferrari ends behind Redbull again, I reckon that the Honda engine might be more powerful than what was first thought of it.

Hey I feel it’s just not about the tracks it’s about the winning mindset that Ferrari has been lacking since quiet a while now. Also did you hear that Williams have found a major problem with their car, and they won’t be able to fix it anytime soon. It’s also pertinent to note that McLaren has threatened to quit F1, I really doubt they’ll quit as this threat looks more like a negotiation technique to me.

[slocker]

I reckon the warmer track temperatures of Bahrain might be what Ferrari needs to win the race. Barcelona had warmer temperatures and they did very good in testing before the season started.

In any case, if Ferrari ends behind Redbull again, I reckon that the Honda engine might be more powerful than what was first thought of it.

Hey I feel it’s just not about the tracks it’s about the winning mindset that Ferrari has been lacking since quiet a while now. Also did you hear that Williams have found a major problem with their car, and they won’t be able to fix it anytime soon. It’s also pertinent to note that McLaren has threatened to quit F1, I really doubt they’ll quit as this threat looks more like a negotiation technique to me.

Track dont need to be the problem for any team, more its car end engine. For Williams they have several issues if the survive this season this will be good, they have besides car trouble and money issue. McLaren last i dont know five six season dont know what to do, they have blame first Honda now Renault, but seem to be that this is engineering issue. When will they make good car.  My quote for this maybe in 10 years or never.

Honda had good engine from the start we saw how it work on RB, so dont know what McLaren want anymore.

[Naida_BR]

I reckon the warmer track temperatures of Bahrain might be what Ferrari needs to win the race. Barcelona had warmer temperatures and they did very good in testing before the season started.

In any case, if Ferrari ends behind Redbull again, I reckon that the Honda engine might be more powerful than what was first thought of it.

The temperature of the track will have to do with the tires that the cars will wear.
There is nothing to do with any telemetric change on the set up of the car.
Ferrari will have a difficult season this year as well. I don't like that, because I was used to see more competition between teams in the past and now we see only Mercedes winning.

[tokeweed]

Anybody wanna bet 20 USD vs me?  I say RBR will end up having more points than Ferrari this year?  

I guess LTU_btc got dibs on this but if he doesn't want to, anybody trusted is welcome to take it.  

[LTU_btc]

I reckon the warmer track temperatures of Bahrain might be what Ferrari needs to win the race. Barcelona had warmer temperatures and they did very good in testing before the season started.

I will correct you, track temperature was extremely low, maybe 10 degrees, we will not see such low track and air temperatures during the season.

Anybody wanna bet 20 USD vs me?  I say RBR will end up having more points than Ferrari this year? 

I guess LTU_btc got dibs on this but if he doesn't want to, anybody trusted is welcome to take it. 

I'm in! Maybe this season Red Bull car is good enough to compete with Ferrari, but I don't believe that they will have more points. Main reason of that is their second driver Gasly, I don't think that he can bring big number of points in every GP all season long. Leclerc looks much better as second driver.