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I heard about Yamaha's mistakes that make him hard to race, like the Aerodynamic aspects. So maybe with this case makes Quartararo look not balanced when racing on wet track beside the problem of a tire. So it was influential when he tried to increase speed, however the motor also can't balance in what he want. in with situation the fans must willing to the title this year will be taken Bagnaia.

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of anyone after the legendary MotoGP life retired, namely Valentino Rossi. But in general I will also be very happy if Valentino Rossi's protege can win the world with an Italian motorcycle this year, namely Bagnaia. Because in general only Crash can prevent Bagnaia from being world champion this year, it means Bagnaia is very close to being world champion for this year and I read in some local news that Valentino Rossi will also come to Valencia to celebrate Bagnaia's world champion. And I think it is a very special motivation for Bagnaia when he can celebrate the MotoGP world champion with his teacher.

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Didn't watch any F1 this weekend but what happened here?  The usual suspects of getting the top three spots are not there.  Russell, Tsunoda and Ocon?  Where's Verstappen, Leclerc and Sainz?

FP2 results...  We'll see how FP3 goes but judging from the current lines at the betting market, the books could be putting too much credit on Perez at 4.20 and not much with Leclerc and Sainz at 8.00 and 13.00.  And Hamilton at 11.00?  Surely Sainz should have a better chance than him.

2022 F1 Mexican GP FP2 Results

1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m19.970s
2   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m20.798s
3   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m21.177s
4   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m21.509s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m21.579s
6   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m21.588s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.618s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.693s
9   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m21.993s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m22.104s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.337s
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.371s
13   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m22.447s
14   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.738s
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.763s
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.840s
17   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m22.879s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m23.316s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m23.320s
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m23.369s

[swogerino]

Didn't watch any F1 this weekend but what happened here?  The usual suspects of getting the top three spots are not there.  Russell, Tsunoda and Ocon?  Where's Verstappen, Leclerc and Sainz?

FP2 results...  We'll see how FP3 goes but judging from the current lines at the betting market, the books could be putting too much credit on Perez at 4.20 and not much with Leclerc and Sainz at 8.00 and 13.00.  And Hamilton at 11.00?  Surely Sainz should have a better chance than him.

2022 F1 Mexican GP FP2 Results

1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m19.970s
2   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m20.798s
3   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m21.177s
4   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m21.509s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m21.579s
6   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m21.588s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.618s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.693s
9   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m21.993s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m22.104s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m22.337s
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.371s
13   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m22.447s
14   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.738s
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.763s
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m22.840s
17   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m22.879s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m23.316s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m23.320s
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m23.369s

Russell is still being first and with a considerable distance to the closest follower in the FP3 which is going live now,I am waiting to see this how it ends before making a bet on the qualifying,I think since Perez is second now and is in front of his home crowd when the times comes for Pole will be a probable option,I don't see any of the new drivers that did run in FP1 now,only the official drivers of the teams are doing the later FP practices.

I hope that Russell gets a pole position which in turn in such track to turn into a victory because Mercedes with that change in the front wing sure made them look like better than a Ferrari (without the new engine of Ferrari).That would be nice and a change but I know that Verstappen will be the most motivated driver to take a win as this win would be a record breaking one.

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Mercedes seems so strong here in this particular track at 2000m with a different air track, it can be their polepositon

[ILuckyGuyI]

Mercedes drivers seemed really fast in FP3 indeed.

However I'm not sure about a pole position for any of Russell and Hamilton. I'm thinking of more about Perez for taking the pole position honestly. Because this is a really important race for him as he is home now. Hopefully he has got prepared well for qualifying session to show his best performance. As it will be really difficult for him to win the Mexico GP at least he can impress the fans by starting in first place to the race. As for the race, I still think that he can finish it in second place at worst. It'd be an improvement considering his last race here.

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Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

[Koal-84]

Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

Mercedes also surprised me a bit, but the favourite for today's race is Verstappen again. Let's see how well Perez does in his home race, even if he would be second I don't think Verstappen would let him win?

[swogerino]

Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

They have all the time they need in the start because there is a huge big straight before they arrive at the first turn so they can play a team game here and both Mercedes cars to attack Verstappen.If Max gets away in the first corner that is most likely game over but let's not forget also Perez which will be extra motivated here and even he has an equal chance to come out first in the first corner because of that big straight.

On strategy I doubt Mercedes can make a better strategy than Redbull unless they are willing to try a different approach,as we have seen in the qualifying there were nothing different to try,all the cars were using the red tires.Even for today race most likely everyone will go with a 2 pit stop strategy.

[RealMalatesta]

Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

They have all the time they need in the start because there is a huge big straight before they arrive at the first turn so they can play a team game here and both Mercedes cars to attack Verstappen.If Max gets away in the first corner that is most likely game over but let's not forget also Perez which will be extra motivated here and even he has an equal chance to come out first in the first corner because of that big straight.

On strategy I doubt Mercedes can make a better strategy than Redbull unless they are willing to try a different approach,as we have seen in the qualifying there were nothing different to try,all the cars were using the red tires.Even for today race most likely everyone will go with a 2 pit stop strategy.

I do agree that Max would be in the biggest danger during the first straight, considering what George did to Sainz last week, and what he has done quite frequently before, Max needs to be careful about something similar, and if he can get away from both of them at the first turn and come out at the first place, then he will definitely not going to be doing anything harder after that and just take the race.

Even in that situation it's hard if both Mercedes drivers are chasing him, it would cause him to lose a lot of tire, and he would have to pit quicker as well to keep up at the top spot. It will be a fun race to watch for sure, Red Bull vs Mercedes again.

[Pulsar77]

There is a really tough race waiting for Perez as far as I can see now. Because Mercedes drivers have shown really promising performances so far. Qualifying was just great for Russell and Hamilton both and Perez is starting right behind these two drivers today. Ferrari drivers seemed really weak in qualifying but the race is always the most important part of course. But it will still be difficult for Leclerc and Sainz to get to podium this time.

It wouldn't be bad to see Perez winning this race as it is special for him. I don't doubt that he will do his best in the race. But even if he manages to overtake both Mercedes drivers, he will still need to do the same to Verstappen also. Truthfully, this seems really hard to witness. Verstappen is still giving his best into the remaining races despite announcing his championship.

[swogerino]

There is a really tough race waiting for Perez as far as I can see now. Because Mercedes drivers have shown really promising performances so far. Qualifying was just great for Russell and Hamilton both and Perez is starting right behind these two drivers today. Ferrari drivers seemed really weak in qualifying but the race is always the most important part of course. But it will still be difficult for Leclerc and Sainz to get to podium this time.

It wouldn't be bad to see Perez winning this race as it is special for him. I don't doubt that he will do his best in the race. But even if he manages to overtake both Mercedes drivers, he will still need to do the same to Verstappen also. Truthfully, this seems really hard to witness. Verstappen is still giving his best into the remaining races despite announcing his championship.

Verstappen will win the race without problems if the race is held in normal conditions even if he is overtaken in the beginning by the Mercedes cars.Redbull is well known for offering better race strategy than everyone else and this together with the driving skills of Verstappen is a sure thing to guarantee Verstappen a race win.

If he has problems in the car,the weather changes suddenly,safety car deployments can all change the outcome of a race that is being held in normal conditions and as such make the race completely unpredictable.

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Boring Gp so far but Mercedes still have a shot.
Ferrari can't battle it seems they are down with power for reliability safety.

Can Hammer Time be able to win?

[LTU_btc]

Yeah, not most interesting race. I expected that teams will go with 2 pit stop strategy, what maybe would made race more interesting. Mercedes expected that Red Bull will stop twice, this is why they put hard tyres on Lewis car to go till the end, but after all, Mercedes decision wasn't right.
Mixed feelings about Ricciardo. His result was great, but he ruined race for Tsunoda and got 10 second penalty which didn't affected final result, that's a bit unfair.
Good to see local hero Perez finish on podium.

[Velvet78]

It was like we watched the same scenario as the previous race here. In that race, Verstappen won and Perez - Hamilton duo were in a competition for the second spot. It happened again and Perez couldn't overtake Hamilton once more. Actually he was really close to Hamilton a couple of times but he couldn't prevent the gap from getting bigger anyway.

Mercedes drivers had a good day as a result. Hamilton couldn't keep up with Verstappen but he still had a great race. I wonder if he would have even a better race in case Mercedes decided to put medium tyres on his car instead of hard ones. But I assume he wouldn't be able to overtake Verstappen due to a big power difference still.

[Koal-84]

A superior start/finish victory for Verstappen. The strategy with the red and medium tyres was perfect from RedBull. If RedBull hadn't messed up Perez's pit stop, Perez might have finished second, but Perez is now on course for the second spot in the world championship.

[dothebeats]

Yeah, not most interesting race. I expected that teams will go with 2 pit stop strategy, what maybe would made race more interesting. Mercedes expected that Red Bull will stop twice, this is why they put hard tyres on Lewis car to go till the end, but after all, Mercedes decision wasn't right.
Mixed feelings about Ricciardo. His result was great, but he ruined race for Tsunoda and got 10 second penalty which didn't affected final result, that's a bit unfair.
Good to see local hero Perez finish on podium.

Not a lot of interesting events happened in this race tbh. Just some blunders, some bloopers, and some really bad calls from some teams expecting that the other teams are going to pit. It's like they aired a half-baked tv show just to push through with schedule. But nonentheless, great drive from Perez overall. Most eyes are on Hamilton - Verstappen but Perez took my attention during the last laps of the race.

Tsunoda and Ricciardo collision isn't a pretty sight too. Not happy with only a 10-second penalty right there and I believe it should have been more.

[swogerino]

A superior start/finish victory for Verstappen. The strategy with the red and medium tyres was perfect from RedBull. If RedBull hadn't messed up Perez's pit stop, Perez might have finished second, but Perez is now on course for the second spot in the world championship.

I think Pirelli should be under investigation for making all the tires so hard that the mediums and hard barely had any noticeably difference.I think FIA should pressure them more to bring tires which are closer to the description and not the same tires with different names in order for the sport to become more beautiful and to give a chance to teams who will go for hard tires to stay longer,much longer on the track than the medium do but in yesterday race both type of tires stayed equally well in the track.

I agree,Verstappen is on another planet as a driver and he is now the only driver with 14 wins in a single season and he has another two races to even extend that record.

[emrecemsan]

It was a race controlled by Verstappen easily from the start to the end. Hamilton was impressive in the first laps of the race especially and he was great about keeping a small gap with Verstappen until the pits. But Mercedes' strategy with hard tyres caused Hamilton to stay much slower than Verstappen in the rest of the race. He hoped Verstappen to slow down with mediums at one point but it didn't happen. The virtual safety car was a chance for Verstappen to get fresh tyres but it would have been a gamble at the same time. Because there weren't many laps left to the finish.

Ferraris were disappointing. But I've heard something like the reason of this slowness was Ferrari's mistake. They didn't have the right settings for this GP and they realized it too late. There was no chance for them to fix this big problem after that. This helped Perez take the 2nd place in the drivers standings once again from Leclerc. The gap is 5 points now. The podium was exactly the same as the previous race in Mexico by the way.  

[LTU_btc]

Max Verstappen decided to boycott Sky F1 after their reporter Ted Kravitz said that Lewis Hamilton was robbed on last race of previous season in Abu Dhabi. Such statements is one of reason why I can't watch races on Sky F1. They have great coverage of race, but when it comes to Hamilton, they're so biased and don't even try to be neutral. When you're neutral spectator or support other driver than Lewis, it really annoys.

Tsunoda and Ricciardo collision isn't a pretty sight too. Not happy with only a 10-second penalty right there and I believe it should have been more.

Well, rules are rules, 10 seconds is already quite strict penalty, though, it could be something like stop and go penalty. Because now he eliminated his opponent from race and that penalty cost hime zero positions.

[Davian144]

Given this week is the last series for the 2022 MotoGP which will take place in Valencia Spain. So there are several things that will end this year so that next year there will be many changes in the scope of MotoGP, in addition to the competition for the world champion this season for the two riders (Quartararo and Bagnaia) including: [^Reference]

• Jack Miller's last race with Ducati
• Enea Bastianini's last race with Gresini Racing
• Rins and Mir's last race with Suzuki
• Miguel Oliveira's last race with KTM
• Pol Espargaro's last race with Honda
• Darryn Binder's last race in the MotoGP class
• Remy Gardner's last race in the MotoGP class
• Raul Fernandez's last race with KTM (Tech 3)
• Suzuki team's last race in the MotoGP class
• RNF Racing team's last race with Yamaha
• Alex Marquez's last race with LCR Honda