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January 12, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
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@puerto libre:

You forgot some points

They ask for "upgrade" preorder customers to send them their FPGA or money.
The happy beliebers do as asked (like this http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM)
They disappear ....

Serious question:

What's the actual resale value of that FPGA chip in a Single or a mini rig?

A spartan is between 75 to 100$ (I guessed here; seeing Toms offer )

So could it be that they intend to sell these FPGAs for making additional income?


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January 12, 2013, 12:58:05 AM
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The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy.  I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?

No, he thought you were dumb. Which you are.

He in fact is Jewish. Hence he can't make anti-semite jokes. Only funny jokes. Grin
Oh boy, the same guy who made the piracy issue with at least one subset of Asians and the other crack [to me] about moping floors (just because I was of Hispanic descent?)

Cultural sensitivity? He's never heard of it apparently.
What?
Being Spanish means you should mop floors?
Wow PuertoLibre, I think every Spanish person on the forum should now hate you for that racist comment ...
I am not the one who made it. Josh did.

He knew I was hispanic long before these posts. Don't believe that BS or his lying nature.

I seriously hope you folks are not that gullible.
Where?
Coz that is something that I certainly have much disrespect for.

I'm not of a persuasion that is usually a target of racial comments, though Luke-Jr made this comment to me recently due to him being wrong about something:
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16:19 < Luke-Jr> maybe that's why Australia is so backward
... which I'm not sure that even falls under the heading of a racial comment directed at me, but anyway ...
I've never had issue with who I associate with based on race and find it quite unacceptable to suggest that race is reason for pretty much any negative comment or action and will usually make comment about it when I see something that is clearly racist.

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January 12, 2013, 01:01:02 AM
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I'm not of a persuasion that is usually a target of racial comments, though Luke-Jr made this comment to me recently due to him being wrong about something:
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... which I'm not sure that even falls under the heading of a racial comment directed at me, but anyway ...
I've never had issue with who I associate with based on race and find it quite unacceptable to suggest that race is reason for pretty much any negative comment or action and will usually make comment about it when I see something that is clearly racist.

He's just upset that we get Christmas sooner.
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January 12, 2013, 01:07:13 AM
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@puerto libre:

You forgot some points

They ask for "upgrade" preorder customers to send them their FPGA or money.
The happy beliebers do as asked (like this http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM)
They disappear ....

Serious question:

What's the actual resale value of that FPGA chip in a Single or a mini rig?

A spartan is between 75 to 100$ (I guessed here; seeing Toms offer )

So could it be that they intend to sell these FPGAs for making additional income?

Not resell them. Return them. Who's to say they actually paid for the chips they sanded off?

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January 12, 2013, 01:23:18 AM
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Here we have supposedly BFL_Josh, Being a total asshole at the CES
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135973.0

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January 12, 2013, 01:24:05 AM
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@puerto libre:

You forgot some points

They ask for "upgrade" preorder customers to send them their FPGA or money.
The happy beliebers do as asked (like this http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM)
They disappear ....

Serious question:

What's the actual resale value of that FPGA chip in a Single or a mini rig?

A spartan is between 75 to 100$ (I guessed here; seeing Toms offer )

So could it be that they intend to sell these FPGAs for making additional income?

Not resell them. Return them. Who's to say they actually paid for the chips they sanded off?

You made another good point.

But why return something that doesn't belong to you if nobody can proof that, and you can get a boatload of money from by selling them again?

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January 12, 2013, 01:32:21 AM
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Here we have supposedly BFL_Josh, Being a total asshole at the CES
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135973.0

That guy snuck into CES with fake identification for the purpose of harassing Josh/BFL. TWICE. I would be pretty pissed off if I were in Josh's shoes. The "total asshole" is the guy who made the video.
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January 12, 2013, 02:03:32 AM
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@puerto libre:

You forgot some points

They ask for "upgrade" preorder customers to send them their FPGA or money.
The happy beliebers do as asked (like this http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM)
They disappear ....
Or, you could say it is a second round of funding in disguise. (pure speculation though)

Serious question:

What's the actual resale value of that FPGA chip in a Single or a mini rig?

A spartan is between 75 to 100$ (I guessed here; seeing Toms offer )

So could it be that they intend to sell these FPGAs for making additional income?


BFL can turn it into extra revenue to resell the FPGA miners back to the community as litecoin miner or other alternate currency.

Or they could sell it to the folding @ home crowd and make a pretty penny.

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January 12, 2013, 02:25:26 AM
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you think they will fold?

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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January 12, 2013, 02:28:57 AM
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No, actually, the arsenal is this:

1. Your original CEO was a convicted felon on probation (he pleaded guilty). Being involved in BFL was in violation of the terms of his probation. Him not telling anyone about it was certainly shady. The crime for which he was convicted (upon pleading guilty) is sensibly the same thing you're doing now: taking people's money for vague promises you don't actually keep.

False.  Please provide proof WRT:
probation, violation of
conviction, type / promises not kept

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2. Upon the public discovering your CEO was a convicted felon, you tried to cover it up.

False.  Provide proof.

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3. Upon the cover-up not working, the CEO/board was secretly shuffled, and then you & sockpuppet bunch tried to pretend 1 never actually happened.

False. Provide proof.

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4. Your original product was a fraud, in the sense it wasn't something you developed, it was a high end, end of life product you bought on the cheap and sanded off. This was eventually discovered and publicly documented, but mum's the word from your side. This leaving to the side the fact it was late and out of spec - maybe you got lucky at the last minute and otherwise your scam would have ended last year, who knows.

False.  Provide proof or evidence to the contrary.

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5. Your business model, whereby you take money from idiots and call their contribution "pre-orders" when it's really equity is also fraudulent, and if you ever end up in court this will likely blow the lot of you to jail. You're not allowed to take "pre-orders" for products that at that time do not exist.

False.  Please provide proof.

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6. You have consistently been proven wrong about pretty much any statement involving time you made. We're counting North of a dozen occurrences by now.

False.  Given the fact that you seem to think just stating something with evidence to back up your claims constitutes "proof," it's no surprise that you make a statement like this.  However, you are categorically unable to provide any evidence or proof to bolster your claims.  Every claim I make/made can be backed up by hard evidence.  Every claim you have made has absolutely no substance or facts to back them up.  Not a single one.

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7. Your logo is lifted off the Internet. The company registration is either bought off a bankrupt company or else an outright sham - nobody knows at this point. You make false claims of experience based on this bought off/stolen registration.

False.  Provide proof.

Again, you consistently make accusations and claims without anything to back them up.  When you are pressed on any of the points, you blabber about irrelevant topics, repeat the same information in the vain hope that if you say it enough times it might be believable or you slink off in silence.  

So go on, prove me wrong.  Otherwise, you're just a lying scammer working for a pathetic "Stock Exchange" that has a market value (according to you) of over 45 billion dollars or something absurd like that.  Good luck.

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January 12, 2013, 03:26:02 AM
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Inaba logic: If you demand proof for something already proven and publicly accepted months ago you can make it appear as if it didn't happen.  Cheesy
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January 12, 2013, 03:29:51 AM
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already proven and publicly accepted

Honestly, the standard for "proven and publicly accepted" on this forum is laughable compared to any major mathematical or scientific proof, or even that of most court rooms.
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January 12, 2013, 03:33:37 AM
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already proven and publicly accepted

Honestly, the standard for "proven and publicly accepted" on this forum is laughable compared to any major mathematical or scientific proof, or even that of most court rooms.

Of course, that's why it is so entertaining. Wink
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January 12, 2013, 03:41:03 AM
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Here we have supposedly BFL_Josh, Being a total asshole at the CES
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135973.0

That guy snuck into CES with fake identification for the purpose of harassing Josh/BFL. TWICE. I would be pretty pissed off if I were in Josh's shoes. The "total asshole" is the guy who made the video.
Heh I was amused by that video also Smiley
Josh basically told him to get lost and that was it.

Certainly avoided a situation that I expect could have been much worse (by the description of the previous day)

I do wonder which orifice people have pulled $25million out of though ...
If it is true, then yep looks like difficulty is gonna go up massively coz at a (very) rough estimate $25m worth of $1200 60GH/s is 1446TH/a
Difficulty is currently ~3million, with 1500TH/s it will be ~210million

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January 12, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
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Here we have supposedly BFL_Josh, Being a total asshole at the CES
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135973.0

That guy snuck into CES with fake identification for the purpose of harassing Josh/BFL. TWICE. I would be pretty pissed off if I were in Josh's shoes. The "total asshole" is the guy who made the video.
Heh I was amused by that video also Smiley
Josh basically told him to get lost and that was it.

Certainly avoided a situation that I expect could have been much worse (by the description of the previous day)

I do wonder which orifice people have pulled $25million out of though ...
If it is true, then yep looks like difficulty is gonna go up massively coz at a (very) rough estimate $25m worth of $1200 60GH/s is 1446TH/a
Difficulty is currently ~3million, with 1500TH/s it will be ~210million
By the way, have you received any notice that you will be flying in to see their production of the ASIC devices?

Is this trip no longer necessary or are you still waiting to hear from them?

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January 12, 2013, 04:05:05 AM
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BFL reps at the next BFL performance review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/65-meanwhile-back-ranch.html

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January 12, 2013, 05:42:14 AM
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Here we have supposedly BFL_Josh, Being a total asshole at the CES
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135973.0

That guy snuck into CES with fake identification for the purpose of harassing Josh/BFL. TWICE. I would be pretty pissed off if I were in Josh's shoes. The "total asshole" is the guy who made the video.
Heh I was amused by that video also Smiley
Josh basically told him to get lost and that was it.

Certainly avoided a situation that I expect could have been much worse (by the description of the previous day)

I do wonder which orifice people have pulled $25million out of though ...
If it is true, then yep looks like difficulty is gonna go up massively coz at a (very) rough estimate $25m worth of $1200 60GH/s is 1446TH/a
Difficulty is currently ~3million, with 1500TH/s it will be ~210million
There's no chance that $25M is even close to accurate.

Josh said the preorders were easily covered by 20k chips.  Even at the Single sales rate, 20k chips is only $3.25M.  And I seriously doubt they've made significant sales since that announcement regarding 20k chips, since it was already past their initial shipping estimate date.
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January 12, 2013, 05:48:32 AM
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Yeah, $25 million is a ludicrous figure... not that I wouldn't love it, but it's just plain insane and pulled out of an ass by an highly delusional person.  It's no wonder he's a crappy poker player, he can't even do simple math.


If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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January 12, 2013, 05:54:11 AM
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ROFL. Another quality BFL update.

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Well, it's later this week and no engineer has told me anything. So that's my excuse for not having an update.

See Tom, this is how you string people along for month after month after month after month...

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January 12, 2013, 06:05:42 AM
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Yeah, $25 million is a ludicrous figure... not that I wouldn't love it, but it's just plain insane and pulled out of an ass by an highly delusional person.  It's no wonder he's a crappy poker player, he can't even do simple math.


I guess I, too, passed along a $10M number which may now not be true. Today, I've seen a $30M number on the CES thread, if I'm not mistaken.

I hope you, Dave, Steve, Tony, and the girls are working your asses off at CES. I bet you're all thinking about a vacation right about now.

Later, bud.

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