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January 29, 2013, 01:06:28 AM
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I understand that I haven't been here for very long. But with people like myself who have the means to prove who I am like holding my photo id up with myself in same picture
. All the documents to prove it like my taxes stub and tons of mail to my same address. Why would people take It upon them self's to make someone feel like this.
 I think that a lot of people have a lot of bitcoins that made them money over short period of time.  Has made them think that they have everybody's trying to leech off them
 because That's what has probably
happened when they sold most of if not all there bitcoins with a profit. just to see that if they would have held out and not been wanting to show off to friends and family. "prove themselves worthy" syndrome as I call it.
 Then they wouldn't have had to Rebuy or Re mine all those coin they had and kick them selfs in the ass for spending.   Having taken such a loss they became Very bitter People.
 I am just a new person like your self, was less then 2years ago. I know that it is difficult to think couldof, wouldof, shouldof type thoughts but look at it like this.  A thing truly still in infancy its not yet gone mainsteam , yet many of you think it has because of seeing it grow so fast.
 The reality of it is you can still buy a full bitcoin for less than 20$ . In the future this will probably be the cost of some ppls homes. So your still in the game.

Just think like I do there are 21million btc going to be mined , how many people live on this world alot more than that . So 21million is going to have to be split a lot of times to make enough for whole world.
 I see this like I see the 1849 gold rush happening  all over just in different way. I believe that they will refer to us as The bitminer era,the time when people started counting on the other side of the zero.

So this being said I have respect for you, as everyone should have respect for their fellow man or woman. I understand that there a a lot of scammers and hate how cutthroat money can make people... they will get taught a lesson remember easy come go and they will have nothing to show for all the work they put in screwing people.
Please don't make everyone feel like this because it makes people not like you and want to steal your stuff. Just take and talk with us. the people who are willing to Send what you need to verify identity should be taken seriously. If you take your self seriously as a lender.
Remember you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. So don't push people away or soon people will not take your money as having value. The more people that use it the more your money will grow in value so don't be to selfish or your bitcoins will have little or no-value. Then you will have been doing this all for nothing and have a bunch of out dated computers for your self that are worth nothing compared to what you paid for them.

Please Help me help you. I can help you a lot. I am very good person to have on your side.


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January 29, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
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Try BTCJam.com, if you properly send in ID you can probably get a loan there and you will be treated ok unless you scam.

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January 29, 2013, 01:23:05 AM
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I understand that I haven't been here for very long. But with people like myself who have the means to prove who I am like holding my photo id up with myself in same picture
. All the documents to prove it like my taxes stub and tons of mail to my same address. Why would people take It upon them self's to make someone feel like this.
 I think that a lot of people have a lot of bitcoins that made them money over short period of time.  Has made them think that they have everybody's trying to leech off them
 because That's what has probably
happened when they sold most of if not all there bitcoins with a profit. just to see that if they would have held out and not been wanting to show off to friends and family. "prove themselves worthy" syndrome as I call it.
 Then they wouldn't have had to Rebuy or Re mine all those coin they had and kick them selfs in the ass for spending.   Having taken such a loss they became Very bitter People.
 I am just a new person like your self, was less then 2years ago. I know that it is difficult to think couldof, wouldof, shouldof type thoughts but look at it like this.  A thing truly still in infancy its not yet gone mainsteam , yet many of you think it has because of seeing it grow so fast.
 The reality of it is you can still buy a full bitcoin for less than 20$ . In the future this will probably be the cost of some ppls homes. So your still in the game.

Just think like I do there are 21million btc going to be mined , how many people live on this world alot more than that . So 21million is going to have to be split a lot of times to make enough for whole world.
 I see this like I see the 1849 gold rush happening  all over just in different way. I believe that they will refer to us as The bitminer era,the time when people started counting on the other side of the zero.

So this being said I have respect for you, as everyone should have respect for their fellow man or woman. I understand that there a a lot of scammers and hate how cutthroat money can make people... they will get taught a lesson remember easy come go and they will have nothing to show for all the work they put in screwing people.
Please don't make everyone feel like this because it makes people not like you and want to steal your stuff. Just take and talk with us. the people who are willing to Send what you need to verify identity should be taken seriously. If you take your self seriously as a lender.
Remember you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. So don't push people away or soon people will not take your money as having value. The more people that use it the more your money will grow in value so don't be to selfish or your bitcoins will have little or no-value. Then you will have been doing this all for nothing and have a bunch of out dated computers for your self that are worth nothing compared to what you paid for them.

Please Help me help you. I can help you a lot. I am very good person to have on your side.


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BTCjam is the way to go.  If you submit all (or at least some) of the identification in order to bolster your reputation, you're highly likely to get loans from which you can improve your reputation.  I've only been a member for a few weeks but submitted all IDs and have a 10/10 rep rating.  If you're serious about P2P lending then BTCjam is a brilliant way to get started.
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January 29, 2013, 01:27:02 AM
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Thanks

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January 29, 2013, 01:52:55 AM
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oh i forgot i had account there and sent all kinds of info to prove who i was and it said wait for approval . so i did and 1-2 weeks went on one day and my docs werent there Shocked and it was like i never entered them at all... so i was like damn thats not cool i hope and prey that someone doesnt  steal my identity

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January 29, 2013, 02:02:44 AM
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Ok I retort that last statement iI just logged on and it said that they were there now WTF

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January 29, 2013, 02:03:21 AM
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Ok I retort that last statement iI just logged on and it said that they were there now WTF
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January 29, 2013, 02:33:41 AM
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You can also link your bitcointalk id to BTCJam.com

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You can also link your bitcointalk id to BTCJam.com
Thank you I had not seen that and just did it right now. Smiley

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January 29, 2013, 04:03:07 AM
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Giving respect and getting scammed is two issues altogether. You wouldn't believe the amount of scammers we get here. Remember that giving ID and address does not mean anything in the bitcoin world. I have seen countless cases where there is all information on the scammer and yet the lenders cannot do anything.

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January 29, 2013, 04:06:29 AM
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Giving respect and getting scammed is two issues altogether. You wouldn't believe the amount of scammers we get here. Remember that giving ID and address does not mean anything in the bitcoin world. I have seen countless cases where there is all information on the scammer and yet the lenders cannot do anything.


Getting a loan is not a right, it's a privilege. Too many think it's their right to have one and many are also just assholes.

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Giving respect and getting scammed is two issues altogether. You wouldn't believe the amount of scammers we get here. Remember that giving ID and address does not mean anything in the bitcoin world. I have seen countless cases where there is all information on the scammer and yet the lenders cannot do anything.


Getting a loan is not a right, it's a privilege. Too many think it's their right to have one and many are also just assholes.
Also relevant in respect and loaning: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135395.0

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January 29, 2013, 04:22:05 AM
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Giving respect and getting scammed is two issues altogether. You wouldn't believe the amount of scammers we get here. Remember that giving ID and address does not mean anything in the bitcoin world. I have seen countless cases where there is all information on the scammer and yet the lenders cannot do anything.


Getting a loan is not a right, it's a privilege. Too many think it's their right to have one and many are also just assholes.
Also relevant in respect and loaning: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135395.0


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January 29, 2013, 04:22:51 AM
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January 29, 2013, 04:30:32 AM
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Giving respect and getting scammed is two issues altogether. You wouldn't believe the amount of scammers we get here. Remember that giving ID and address does not mean anything in the bitcoin world. I have seen countless cases where there is all information on the scammer and yet the lenders cannot do anything.
Well I am now understanding why. After reading the threads for a minute or two I see where you worry comes in. I just have a problem with
having people Passing judgement without even getting to know the person.

 It like why even let jr. members post if they just get accusation's posted because they are new and don't know any better that is uncalled for. just up the lending post requirement to full member and people would not feel pushed away like I felt when I first had someone think or suggest that.
 Also a up side would be if that thread was hidden un-till one day when you least expect it you become full member and your new and exciting privileges are there that you never had before.I think they would care about a lot more then. By that time They would be established and not prone to scam or be called one and feel alienated.... Just a idea that would Fix your present Problem that  looks like it takes up way to much of your time and effort trying to combat.  Plus it puts scammer fresh in your mind so your think everyone is out to get you .    

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January 29, 2013, 04:36:41 AM
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Full member for lending? Nah, it's easy to get to such amount of posts. See constitution for example. He's a prime example of another account being pumped. Better still is the six-sense accrued after so many lending posts here. The seasoned lenders/readers in this section can practically smell a bad loan (where the lender is a bad credit and has next to nil repayment ways) or a scamming loan from miles away now.

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January 29, 2013, 04:37:54 AM
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There is also numerous Jr/new members that I would lend to in a heartbeat. Posts are not a way of measuring credit-worthyness.

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January 29, 2013, 04:44:55 AM
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Well I'm very proud of them but if that's the case and you believe that true then have fun drinking coolaid at a jones towns event. I Dont have that mindset where I think I know everything. I have humbleness and a willingness to give people a shot.  

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Well I'm very proud of them but if that's the case and you believe that true then have fun drinking coolaid at a jones towns event. I Dont have that mindset where I think I know everything. I have humbleness and a willingness to give people a shot.  
that was not insult aimed at you john For the record

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There is also numerous Jr/new members that I would lend to in a heartbeat. Posts are not a way of measuring credit-worthyness.
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