Q: Should Lauda *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no

[bitkilo]

Does anyone else think that Lauda should not be a moderator?

Lauda proceeds with her opinion when moderating the board. Lauda does not follow the rules of the board the same way other moderators do. Lauda is not open to ever being wrong or mistaken. Lauda does not understand what it means to moderate the board. Lauda does not bother to explain reasons behind actions in a friendly way. Lauda likes to be abrasive with people she is moderating. Lauda is power hungry.

I move to have Lauda removed from being a moderator effective immediately.

There are lots of moderators on Bitcointalk, but of course you chose to pick on Lauda, the female moderator. I'm not surprised, this place is the garden of sexism.

Oh that's funny, even if Lauda is female do you really think this subject has anything to do with that, seriously get a life.

This is about the attitude Lauda has as a moderate and while i think it can be a little harsh at times and even in bad taste we are all different and voice our options differently.

It's not a coincidence. I'll retract my statement if you can show me a similar post about a male moderator, with members of the opposite sex consistently bashing him.

I feel sorry for any females in your life, because you are too privileged to see sexism and empathize with them.

I can't show you a similar thread because i have never seen the actions of another moderator being questioned here before, even if there was another moderator acting in the same manner that Lauda has been then i am positive they would be treated in exactly the same way.
Some member did think and probably still do believe that Quickseller is a female, do you think people treat him/her they way they do because of that?

You can feel sorry about the females in my life if you wish, i don't.

The thing i love about the internet is that is doesn't matter if you are male, female or an alien everyone get treated the same.

[awesome31312]

The thing i love about the internet is that is doesn't matter if you are male, female or an alien everyone get treated the same.

That's false. You need to get a lesson by posing as a female in an all male chatroom, or posing as a female on an online game. I have experience with games in which there are female moderators, and they are obviously treated worse.

[bitkilo]

The thing i love about the internet is that is doesn't matter if you are male, female or an alien everyone get treated the same.

That's false. You need to get a lesson by posing as a female in an all male chatroom, or posing as a female on an online game. I have experience with games in which there are female moderators, and they are obviously treated worse.

Ok if you have seen that discrimination happen on another forum with female moderators then prove it to me.
You will first have to prove the moderators on such forum are in fact female and Lauda is also female for your argument to work.

You can PM me this proof or create another thread, it's time to stop hijacking this thread.

[awesome31312]

The thing i love about the internet is that is doesn't matter if you are male, female or an alien everyone get treated the same.

That's false. You need to get a lesson by posing as a female in an all male chatroom, or posing as a female on an online game. I have experience with games in which there are female moderators, and they are obviously treated worse.

Ok if you have seen that discrimination happen on another forum with female moderators then prove it to me.
You will first have to prove the moderators on such forum are in fact female and Lauda is also female for your argument to work.

You can PM me this proof or create another thread, it's time to stop hijacking this thread.

Of course when I call out members on their blatant sexism, you would consider it "hijacking the thread".

I don't need to prove that Lauda is female, because the people complaining about her are using female pronouns, she passes as a female for them, and that's why they complain about her.

You can see examples of females being targeted in online forums here and here.

[bitkilo]

The thing i love about the internet is that is doesn't matter if you are male, female or an alien everyone get treated the same.

That's false. You need to get a lesson by posing as a female in an all male chatroom, or posing as a female on an online game. I have experience with games in which there are female moderators, and they are obviously treated worse.

Ok if you have seen that discrimination happen on another forum with female moderators then prove it to me.
You will first have to prove the moderators on such forum are in fact female and Lauda is also female for your argument to work.

You can PM me this proof or create another thread, it's time to stop hijacking this thread.

Of course when I call out members on their blatant sexism, you would consider it "hijacking the thread".

I don't need to prove that Lauda is female, because the people complaining about her are using female pronouns, she passes as a female for them, and that's why they complain about her.

You can see examples of females being targeted in online forums here and here.

You link two articles titled internet harassment and online threats targeting women and Discourse, gender, and online forums to back up your argument of course there going to focus on female internet harassment thats what the articles are about and I'm not saying it doesn't happen in some forums around the net I'm just saying it's not happening in this case. You seriously do need to get a life.
I won't be answering anymore of your posts in this thread because this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand and is therfore "hijacking the thread"

[CROSS.]

Moderators act on their own opinion, there really arent any rules here to guide them anyways so they dont have a choice

[BestWebCreator]

Moderators act on their own opinion, there really arent any rules here to guide them anyways so they dont have a choice

Everyone acts on their own opinion, therefor it is your personal opinion and not others.
There are rules for moderators, the same as for us. Moderators only have more features like banning/moving threads. Mayby something else too, but that wouldn't matter alot. The rules apply to eveyone.

[Quickseller]

Lauda is now deleting posts in self moderated threads that are critical of him and that point out his inconsistencies

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Gotta say it all feels a bit 'Coin Telegraph' to me if you're not going to discriminate between obviously shady operations wanting to leach off your good reputations and legitimately trustworthy businesses and services.

That 'Legends of Tomorrow' you're currently wearing reeks of scam. They talk a huge game about not needing any investment funds and how all deposits will remain in their deposit address, only for them to then move the money they had there with some excuse about how they used it for trading!

If I recall didn't somebody like OGNasty recently get in a kerfuffle over refusing to remove a scam signature because he said he'd been paid for it and so was going to wear it until the paid period had ended, right? Well if you receive money to advertise a service which you then learn is shady as fuck, you are perfectly entitled to remove that advertisement without reimbursing the scammers. So I don't understand the logic of his refusal to do so in that case and in this case I don't understand why you're so willing to sully your own names for a clearly shady operation.

By choosing the morally-bankrupt 'CT' standard of advertising you just end up becoming mired in one scandal after another with people who lose money blaming you for encouraging them to trust in the shady operation you were promoting which ended up running off with their bitcoin.

You'd be far better off operating on the principal that any valid concerns raised about a service you are advertising needs to be objectively countered by the operators of that service or you will remove the signature until they offer up a sufficient degree of proof they are running a legitimate and trustworthy service.

This way the value of your signature space as a group will increase exponentially as it will be far more trusted than most.

It's win-win for you.

We've not found them to be a scam. Nobody has complained to us, or to anyone, that they're a scam. Let me know why you think they're a scam and please try to show some evidence or good reasoning.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576799.msg15831328#msg15831328 <<-- unmoderated thread here. It turns out that a warning about LOT was posted in this very thread a long time ago but was deleted by the OP

[Vod]

Lauda is now deleting posts in self moderated threads that are critical of him and that point out his inconsistencies

Do not continue posting in that topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.  Good forum etiquette. 

[awesome31312]

Tip #2: Do not whine about having a deleted post in another post, especially if it was deleted in a self moderated post.

[Quickseller]

Tip #2: Do not whine about having a deleted post in another post, especially if it was deleted in a self moderated post.

Not whining. I am just pointing out that Lauda is actively trying to cover up the fact that others warned him about the scammy site he was advertising for was scammy.

[boki15]

... The rules apply to eveyone.

That's the problem, they aren't applied and as explanation comes always some prove that the person who should apply rules plays either dumb not understanding them, flipping around or starting another question to distract from discussion.

If rules would be applied, suchmoon and some other members here would be banned, especially for their puppet accounts.

Everybody is clearly in illusioin that rules can exist if you apply them only on people who you dislike because you dislike them or their opinion. All this ends in anarchy, nobody cares about rules if those who apply them are either unable to do so or they simply mark this forum to be without any rules.

THERE ARE NO RULES HERE THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERYONE => THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES. If you are not my opinion, feel free to open new thread instead of poluting this one.

[BitcoinEXpress]

THERE ARE NO RULES HERE THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERYONE => THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES. If you are not my opinion, feel free to open new thread instead of poluting this one.

Anyone who isn't happy here can simply request that their subscription be cancelled and their membership fees refunded.



~BCX~

[boki15]

, exactly, just go. You clearly express moderation opinion which is actually what is written, did you read at all? Well, probably you dont understand me too, correct? But no, closing eyes on a problem and leaving is not a solution, exactly such behaviour is being followed which makes conclusion that there are no rules because they are not applied, before you apply them, you will say go if you dont like it. Are you familiar with the definition of words "double standards" or hypocracy?

I am glad your post proved my words which are not for you as legend of such place, it is information for new users who should not be in illusion that there are any rules at all.

THERE ARE NO RULES HERE THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERYONE => THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES. If you are not my opinion, feel free to open new thread instead of poluting this one.

Anyone who isn't happy here can simply request that their subscription be cancelled and their membership fees refunded.



~BCX~

EDIT:
I ask myself if some are confused by definition of word "rule". What we are presented on this forum are guidelines and best practices of bitcointalk staff members, but can't be neither called or threaten as rule by its definition. With that, purpose of "rules" and usage of best practices as "rules", it is very missleading and leaves a lot further questions connected due to this fact.

[tspacepilot]

Tip #2: Do not whine about having a deleted post in another post, especially if it was deleted in a self moderated post.

Not whining. I am just pointing out that Lauda is actively trying to cover up the fact that others warned him about the scammy site he was advertising for was scammy.

What about when you were actively trying to cover up the fact that you were using many accounts in order to run sock-puppet smear campaigns against people (come to think of it, seems like it's going on now, again!)?  What about when you were actively trying to cover up the fact that you were using many accounts to scam people out of escrow fees and trick them into sending first in the marketplace here?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

This thread needs binning, why the hell is it still open?

[minifrij]

This thread needs binning, why the hell is it still open?

If it were to be locked, Lauda would obviously be stopping their opponents from criticizing them. It would be yet more proof that they are so shady.

[Quickseller]

This thread needs binning, why the hell is it still open?

If it were to be locked, Lauda would obviously be stopping their opponents from criticizing them.

Except that Lauda does not have the ability to lock this thread because it is in a section he does not have moderating power over. Lauda does take affirmative actions to prevent others from criticizing him. This is evidenced by his heavy use of self moderated threads, and by his deleting replies that have been critical of him.

[minifrij]

Except that Lauda does not have the ability to lock this thread because it is in a section he does not have moderating power over.

Regardless it would still be Lauda's fault; they would have extorted another staff member into doing it for them.
This and my previous post were sarcastic, for anyone confused.

Lauda does take affirmative actions to prevent others from criticizing him.

Considering this thread was made when the OP was a Newbie (their 14th post) and Lauda is a patroller (meaning they moderate newbies regardless of the section), why did they not take these 'affirmative actions' in the time between the thread being created and the OP becoming a Jr. Member?

This is evidenced by his heavy use of self moderated threads

Self Moderated threads can be used for other purposes than censorship.

and by his deleting replies that have been critical of him.

Ignoring the singular example of your post being deleted, can you provide any more proof of this?

[tspacepilot]

Lauda does take affirmative actions to prevent others from criticizing him.

Considering this thread was made when the OP was a Newbie (their 14th post) and Lauda is a patroller (meaning they moderate newbies regardless of the section), why did they not take these 'affirmative actions' in the time between the thread being created and the OP becoming a Jr. Member?

It's important to keep in mind that the OP of this thread is an alt of Quickseller.