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March 21, 2016, 06:38:40 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.

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March 21, 2016, 06:42:02 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



Approach bank immediately and explain all to them.

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March 21, 2016, 06:46:49 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



Approach bank immediately and explain all to them.

I did. He since erased his PM which contained email he provided and all PMs he sent me, wish I would have saved them but didn't expect any of this at beginning...especially to this extreme. My bank is doing an investigation immediately and I'm contacting the authorities today as well.
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March 21, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



You even sent me your debit card which i didn't even say it to give me it fully idiot now you're posting me.
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March 21, 2016, 06:53:30 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



You send some stranger all kind of personal information and now you are wondering??

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March 21, 2016, 06:53:40 PM
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You should never trust newbies for a reasons.
1.Use proper scam report to present the accusation
2.Post Pics of the documents modified
 
Just a note :  I have been asking him to prove that he own those 10 btc he claims to have but he will only show it some Staff member it seems :
Since you are a newbie and you're claiming to have 7 bitcoins right now,do you mind showing us the proof anyway ?
1.Sign a message from the address you're holding coins at,if you don't know how to do that,I will help you.
2.This will make sure you're serious about the business and not behind hijacking collaterals.

Edit : If this post is ignored,I would not recommend anyone giving your collateral to him.Please use Escrow.

I'll ignore you, you just want to count posts for camigin don't worry bruh I won't give you anything
Unless high staff

EDIT : After I posted this in that thread,he moved the thread to archival and started a new self moderated thread.Very Shady.

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March 21, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
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seems he removed content promptly and moved to archival.
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March 21, 2016, 06:57:57 PM
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Let's him provide a proof.
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March 21, 2016, 06:58:36 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



You send some stranger all kind of personal information and now you are wondering??

Yes I'm at fault. I made a poor decision and forgot this world is filled with losers who consider employment using others identities and trying to steal their funds.
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March 21, 2016, 06:59:41 PM
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i have an archive of the 2nd page including ops (this op) posting and a quote of the op (scammer op). feedback left http://archive.is/nu7V7

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March 21, 2016, 07:00:40 PM
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Let's him provide a proof.
You're acting shade even without.
Switching to a self moderated thread, trying to get the other thread away,...


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March 21, 2016, 07:00:58 PM
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Let's him provide a proof.

I'm still waiting for your proofs though.Show us you have BTC10 to loan.The scam part comes later.

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March 21, 2016, 07:05:30 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

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March 21, 2016, 07:06:10 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Sure stuff members only.
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March 21, 2016, 07:07:33 PM
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Let's him provide a proof.

I have screenshot of my 401k account changed to your email. You erased your PMs which for some dumb reason they erase in my inbox as well; your email address was in one of those PMs. I have emails I sent as well to email address you provided via PM but has since been erased by you.

I'll hand over info to authorities and let them handle it from here.
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March 21, 2016, 07:09:01 PM
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Sure stuff members only.

*Staff members aren't jobless to to review a newbie's account for few cents.Let Lutpin review your messages,also you still haven't posted proof about your BTC10.Lutpin will conform that as well,since he is in DT ,I'm sure he's trusted enough.

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March 21, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Sure stuff members only.

i asked op, not you.

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I have screenshot of my 401k account changed to your email. You erased your PMs which for some dumb reason they erase in my inbox as well; your email address was in one of those PMs. I have emails I sent as well to email address you provided via PM but has since been erased by you.
Something is odd. PMs shouldn't be erased like that.
Would you grant me (or anyone else, who's trusted by you, aswell as by others) access to your account, to check if there are any PMs left, and to verify those, in case there are some?


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March 21, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Yes by all means, I did no wrong doing.

Sorry for delayed replies, have to wait 360 seconds between posts and also on phone freezing accounts.

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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Yes by all means, I did no wrong doing.

Sorry for delayed replies, have to wait 360 seconds between posts and also on phone freezing accounts.



pm lutpin your details so he can review your acc

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Wtf are you talking about? I do'nt know your fucking tax401k or whatever you're wrong you should contact your bugged bank and ask about.
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Wtf are you talking about? I do'nt know your fucking tax401k or whatever you're wrong you should contact your bugged bank and ask about.

So you deny that you abused confidential info?
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Yes by all means, I did no wrong doing.

Sorry for delayed replies, have to wait 360 seconds between posts and also on phone freezing accounts.



pm lutpin your details so he can review your acc

I logged out to renter my password manually so I can give since I have auto login set but not working that way so I tried forget password and email states username as HookLineSinker. This scumbag won't stop, how can I change my email on this site?
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Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.

Then I received an email from my bank saying my 401k account info was changed. I logged in and he broke into my account and changed my contact info to his, I have proof of this with pic.

WTH, I knew I was an idiot for requesting a loan here and giving my ID a long with bills.



would you agree on some trusted member will review your account and what is left on pms?

Yes by all means, I did no wrong doing.

Sorry for delayed replies, have to wait 360 seconds between posts and also on phone freezing accounts.



pm lutpin your details so he can review your acc

I logged out to renter my password manually so I can give since I have auto login set but not working that way so I tried forget password and email states username as HookLineSinker. This scumbag won't stop, how can I change my email on this site?

Are you high nigga?
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OP has granted me access to their account and I'm currently sorting through their PM log.



Just sent me a PM saying I was going to be busy at the police station tomorrow.
I can verify OP received the following PM from the user Loanoffer40:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey, you gone see yourself in the police deprtment office bro

Have a nice day


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PM sent, got it squared away and sent.

If for some reason he can't recover them I have all PMs in my email as well since site auto sent them as well. Took a screenshot of pm where he gives me his company name and email, same email that showed in my 401k before I was alerted and made changes.

And dipshit you received an email from my bank because you put your email in as primary and I changed it, this is the same way I found out when you broke in, they sent me (primary at time) notification of change.


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Left negative feedback for this member as he is acting highly shady,just deleted my post after I warned he would get negative trust for deleting the thread before this accusation was settled.

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Read before dealing with this person. Should be easy to figure out whats going on.

If you delete this I will neg rep you.

Was deleted thread and I see he deleted Luptin as well.

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March 21, 2016, 08:26:29 PM
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So far, everything that OP said checks out with the PMs I've been reading.
If we put aside the practice of providing personal information as "collateral" for a loan, which I find highly careless.


OP provided several pictures, including identifiation, proof of address and more to Loanoffer40.
Upon request, because those pictures where "unreadable" or "invalid", OP provided more pictures.
Loanoffer40 promised to send funds to OP several times:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Okay I got it now and I verified that it's verified, all set.

1CvSLoQkRy3arRfJqaNKYVoH6uqrurhfrp

This is Andy Walbert and my Bitcointalk name is NitrogenAndy. Today's date is 03-20-16 and I am verifying this is my address.

IGPNtnm9yWXmcb/QTGQxo3AmWpe7ZXn7UP6E6z604p6IVyjXYcgiI7Zn9MexccsRzOFl6uxOhwlVHsDaz0kADag=
Right address 1CvSLoQkRy3arRfJqaNKYVoH6uqrurhfrp I've sent message to my partner you'll expect your funds 24-42 hours, and I hope we do more deals in the future.

Thanks
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Will be home by 5 pm et and will have those docs sent to you. Also will BTC be sent today after docs confirmed?

I have my review saved but holding off to post it until this last effort sending more docs for the 100th time it feels.

Yes, my guy will send you the bitcoin, as i told you.



I can't verify any other parts, as some parts have been communicated outside of bitcointalk (Loanoffer40 asked OP to switch communication offside):
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Do you have skype,IRC, any message service I need to talk to you.

Regards
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Well, create yahoo messanger or skype.
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Check your messenger.

Regards



Loanoffer40 seems to be affiliated with a site called surplusresale.com

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Are you U.S Citizen? If so You can upload your document here www.surplusresale.com/loan otherwise upload them and send to the email tachbibi2016@yandex.com

Regards



As for the PMs, I can confirm OPs story.
This is of course no confirmation on the accusation against Loanoffer40 about changing the bank details for OPs account.
However, from what I was abled to read in PMs, OP was telling the truth.


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He incriminated himself when he stated my bank sent him an email, which I see now he deleted after I explained why they would send it to his email in my previous post.

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He incriminated himself when he stated my bank sent him an email, which I see now he deleted after I explained why they would send it to his email in my previous post.
Can you post a screenshot (black out any private info you're not comfortable posting) of the email your bank has sent you about the change of your primary contact address/mail?


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He incriminated himself when he stated my bank sent him an email, which I see now he deleted after I explained why they would send it to his email in my previous post.
Can you post a screenshot (black out any private info you're not comfortable posting) of the email your bank has sent you about the change of your primary contact address/mail?

Will you pm me an email address I can send to. Not sure how to post images and pics are on my phone, plus want to send the pm as well (it was a pm where he said about bank, not a post that I thought had been deleted).

Again sorry for delayed response, have to wait 360 seconds between posts.

And I do accept responsibility, I was foolish providing info and wish I never had. I needed a loan until Friday's paycheck and made poor decisions submitting info.
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I don't have any deals with you, because YOU who provided me your information

Have nice day for now.
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I don't have any deals with you, because YOU who provided me your information

Have nice day for now.
You still committed fraud? Point is?
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I sent 2 emails to Lutpin.

First contains email from bank alerting me of change. I also included 2 images I took when logging in that show his email in primary account box, same email that was confirmed his in pm.

Second email includes pm of him stating my bank emailed him. I explained already why this occurred, he at that time was listed as primary and my bank was alerting him a change had been made (same as it did for me when I was listed as primary. Hence incriminating himself.

Thanks for putting have a good day for now, letting me know he wants to continue down this road by including for now. I'm sure this is just the start of my troubles with this douche bag.
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March 21, 2016, 09:39:32 PM
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The new email address on the bank account (wells fargo online) matches the one Loanoffer40 earlier sent OP to contact them.




And the PM by Loanoffer40 to OP in response:
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What the fuck are you talking about ? I just recevied email from shit welles fargoe saying welcome lol where the fuck you using my email?


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March 21, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
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The new email address on the bank account (wells fargo online) matches the one Loanoffer40 earlier sent OP to contact them.

In theory it's still possible that the OP could frame Loanoffer40 but given Loanoffer40's erratic behavior (deleted posts etc) it's very unlikely.

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March 22, 2016, 02:16:00 AM
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The new email address on the bank account (wells fargo online) matches the one Loanoffer40 earlier sent OP to contact them.

In theory it's still possible that the OP could frame Loanoffer40 but given Loanoffer40's erratic behavior (deleted posts etc) it's very unlikely.


Loanoffer40 's first post was to set up shop offering up to BTC 10 for loans - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395721.0 (now locked) - approving loans, then not fulfilling those loans - a scroll down the page and almost all posters now have negative trust beside their name.

I'm glad I picked up on the suspicious behaviour from the start.

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March 22, 2016, 05:31:31 AM
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I told you all, he is thief of identities (Loanoffer40) , lol
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March 22, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
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I told you all, he is thief of identities (Loanoffer40) , lol


My last post on this particular matter, somewhat exhausted after all the BS yesterday.

Don't want to go too much in detail but will state I followed necessary steps set forth by FTC.

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