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February 02, 2013, 07:03:14 PM
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One thing I just wanted to mention to anyone that mines, is that Regus (http://www.regus.com/) which is probably the largest office rental in the world, is offering (because they never calculate power separately) offices quite cheap, especially in regions outside of mayor cities.

I noticed a number of people complaining about Watt prices for rigs, and I assumed that was for those running 10+ rigs. It would actually make more sense to place those in a Regus office (the smallest 2 person ones), and just have electricity, and you may actually break even in certain places. Just a heads up, which definitely made sense with GPU monsters. Dont know if this will apply to the ASIC game.

<helo> funny that this proposal grows the maximum block size to 8GB, and is seen as a compromise
<helo> oh, you don't like a 20x increase? well how about 8192x increase?
<JackH> lmao
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February 02, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
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Nice, drive around their known locations at night with a thermal camera.

Kick in the door when you spot an office with an orange glow!


 
 
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February 02, 2013, 11:47:08 PM
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One thing I just wanted to mention to anyone that mines, is that Regus (http://www.regus.com/) which is probably the largest office rental in the world, is offering (because they never calculate power separately) offices quite cheap, especially in regions outside of mayor cities.

I noticed a number of people complaining about Watt prices for rigs, and I assumed that was for those running 10+ rigs. It would actually make more sense to place those in a Regus office (the smallest 2 person ones), and just have electricity, and you may actually break even in certain places. Just a heads up, which definitely made sense with GPU monsters. Dont know if this will apply to the ASIC game.
They're that cheap?   

Can you sleep in them too?   Grin

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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February 03, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
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The only reason they are able to provide cheap, unmetered rental is because people generally are ethical enough not to waste electricity. Doing so is spoiling it for everyone.

This idea is, quite frankly, appalling.
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February 06, 2013, 10:20:42 AM
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Why not just rent cheap motel rooms and bring surge protectors? Even better, rent out an extended stay room with weekly rates. Hop around every week so they don't start to notice the ridiculous power usage. Just go on a mining spree for like a month.
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February 06, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
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Why not just rent cheap motel rooms and bring surge protectors? Even better, rent out an extended stay room with weekly rates. Hop around every week so they don't start to notice the ridiculous power usage. Just go on a mining spree for like a month.
Let's say you can pull 5000 watts from a hotel room. (You might be able to pull more depending on if the A/C unit is hardwired or has a plug, but I think 5000w is a very generous estimate)

If your power normally costs $0.15/kwh, 5000 watts for 24 hours would cost you $18.

I doubt you'll find any hotel room (any room capable of supplying 5000 watts at least) for less than that rate. :p
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February 06, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
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You can't pull enough amps in the Regus offices.  I am sucking down 15KW as I type this.  In the summertime I was taking down around 22KW with cooling.  No way you are going to get that kind of power out of a 110V outlet.
 

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February 06, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
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You can't pull enough amps in the Regus offices.  I am sucking down 15KW as I type this.  In the summertime I was taking down around 22KW with cooling.  No way you are going to get that kind of power out of a 110V outlet.
 
Just out of curiosity did your utility company or the local authorities ever give you any trouble over your high power usage?  Or are you running your mining operation out of commercial/industrial space?
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February 07, 2013, 03:32:18 AM
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I run my machines in my commercial warehouse.  I have 1200amp 240V service so I have plenty of power.  The building used to be a metal fab shop.  I have had no troubles.  I have also run 10KW worth of GPU's in my garage for about a year without any problems.

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February 07, 2013, 07:53:06 AM
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Why not just rent cheap motel rooms and bring surge protectors? Even better, rent out an extended stay room with weekly rates. Hop around every week so they don't start to notice the ridiculous power usage. Just go on a mining spree for like a month.
Let's say you can pull 5000 watts from a hotel room. (You might be able to pull more depending on if the A/C unit is hardwired or has a plug, but I think 5000w is a very generous estimate)

If your power normally costs $0.15/kwh, 5000 watts for 24 hours would cost you $18.

I doubt you'll find any hotel room (any room capable of supplying 5000 watts at least) for less than that rate. :p

Problem is you have to have other things running while at home like t.v., lights etc. That will add to your cost. In the room it would be no extra cost. Plus add in people living with you. They are using power as well.

But I get what you are saying. Of course, each individual has to run their own numbers to make it work. Just a thought.

How about mining with solar power? Solar power is free! Just pay the initial investment for a generator.
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February 07, 2013, 10:41:36 AM
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Why not just rent cheap motel rooms and bring surge protectors? Even better, rent out an extended stay room with weekly rates. Hop around every week so they don't start to notice the ridiculous power usage. Just go on a mining spree for like a month.
Let's say you can pull 5000 watts from a hotel room. (You might be able to pull more depending on if the A/C unit is hardwired or has a plug, but I think 5000w is a very generous estimate)

If your power normally costs $0.15/kwh, 5000 watts for 24 hours would cost you $18.

I doubt you'll find any hotel room (any room capable of supplying 5000 watts at least) for less than that rate. :p

Problem is you have to have other things running while at home like t.v., lights etc. That will add to your cost. In the room it would be no extra cost. Plus add in people living with you. They are using power as well.

But I get what you are saying. Of course, each individual has to run their own numbers to make it work. Just a thought.

How about mining with solar power? Solar power is free! Just pay the initial investment for a generator.

where i'm at, if you use more power you get a cheaper rate

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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February 07, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
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Why not just rent cheap motel rooms and bring surge protectors? Even better, rent out an extended stay room with weekly rates. Hop around every week so they don't start to notice the ridiculous power usage. Just go on a mining spree for like a month.

Hehe I had a vision about some cyberpunk movie where the matrix-like crew ran around stealing power from big industrial plants in the effort to mine a fraction of a btc.

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