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May 05, 2015, 04:00:54 AM
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Hi, I also got a reply from you on gmail, but it doesnt help.

My traffic is mainly from posting the link to faucet on a few bitcointalk threads, few other forums, and some from reffering the link. I have also registred a few faucet rotators that have added my faucet.
I get it that from rotators and some forums I shouldnt get unique impressions as they use a-ads too. But I should get at least a few of them, because not every single person comes from these sites. I can try posting a link to the site to a friend that never used bitcoin, or bitcoin related site, and see if this will generate traffic?


When visitors see your site with a-ads banner, does your site domain name always match the one specified for ad unit? If not then that could be a reason why they are not counted as unique.

Your unique/non-unique ratio for clicks is much better than for impressions though. Probably all your visitors come from the sites that have a-ads banner on it. Some of them didn't click on those sites though but clicked on yours, thus you got unique clicks but not impressions.

If you don't generate unique impressions then we display affiliate ads that may generate revenue to you (here is the list of such campaigns: http://a-ads.com/campaigns/affiliate). E. g. if your ad unit attracts an advertiser to a-ads then you get half of our fees from that advertiser.

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May 05, 2015, 06:55:46 AM
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thank you for you answer.
I believe I should at least get a few clicks. I have send a link to person not knowing anything about bitcoin etc. so I suppose he did not see any a-ads before. But I did not get any unique impressions...
How can I apply to change the payout into clicks?
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May 05, 2015, 07:15:02 AM
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thank you for you answer.
I believe I should at least get a few clicks. I have send a link to person not knowing anything about bitcoin etc. so I suppose he did not see any a-ads before. But I did not get any unique impressions...
How can I apply to change the payout into clicks?

I just visited your ad unit from one of my servers and a minute later noticed a unique impression (see https://a-ads.com/ad_units/67819/stats). So it really works.

Btw, you have several ad units on the same page. If some globally-unique visitor comes to your site, only one of your ad units (the one that loads first) will receive a unique impression.

I am sorry, we don't have pay per click option since it is trivial to fake clicks (and for us it is virtually impossible to realiably distinguish them from real ones).

If your ad units don't generate unique impressions, we display only affiliate ads on them. So if those clicks lead to real sales or other actions useful for our advertisers then you will get affiliate rewards from them. In the long run for the publishers that generate quality traffic it could be much more profitable than pay-per-click or pay-per-impression model.

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May 05, 2015, 07:30:12 AM
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Oh, I just noticed that your ad unit has a different domain name (you said your site is located at faucet.dsgnrt.net but your ad unit has URL faucet.dsgnrt.com )!

As I said,

When visitors see your site with a-ads banner, does your site domain name always match the one specified for ad unit? If not then that could be a reason why they are not counted as unique.

I am not sure why it registered a unique impression when I visited it from one of my servers though. Probably your ad unit is being treated as anonymous since our bot can't locate it on the specified URL.

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May 05, 2015, 07:38:47 AM
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Oh! thanks! so this is my error!
can you somehow edit my ad address to change it to .net domain?
Or do I have to create new ones?
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May 05, 2015, 07:43:10 AM
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Oh! thanks! so this is my error!
can you somehow edit my ad address to change it to .net domain?
Or do I have to create new ones?

I changed the URLs for your ad units, let's see if it solves your problem.

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May 09, 2015, 02:03:07 PM
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Hello,

I am the creator of the 8ch.net ad unit ( #65532 : https://a-ads.com/ad_units/65532 )

We've gotten an okay payout in the last while it's been up (I think it's been about a month?) considering I only stuck it on a few boards, and the only high traffic one being /b/. (~0.07BTC so far)

I have some ideas and criticisms.

First, you should make it more obvious how to buy self-serve ads like the old BitAds site, so if an advertiser wants to place ad just on 8chan he can do so easily.

Second, way too many of the ads are Bitcoin related. 8chan isn't a Bitcoin site, I doubt most users are interested. Should look into getting more general purpose ads (like porn Tongue).

Third, I go into "Catalog" and can't find my site in there easily. It's not in "Community sites" or "Unknown" so far as I can tell. How are these ranked and chosen? I doubt that some of these ones at the top of "Community sites" are more popular than 8chan, no offense. The catalog is very discouraging as most of the listed sites look like scams or just for SEO. You should more prominently feature the sites that make up large percentages of network traffic.

Overall it's a nice service but could use some polishing. I think it could have a much broader appeal if you work on it a bit more. I'll probably keep the ad up for a bit longer, I have someone else interested in placing banner on the /b/ board though so I'll see how that pans out.

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May 09, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
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Hi kopipe, thank you very much for your valuable feedback!

1. We have started a work to improve the self-serve ads.

2. Since we accept Bitcoin only, it is natural that most of our advertisers are bitcoin-related. Perhaps we should find a way to accept USD and that would attract traditional advertisers.

3. Ranks and categories are being chosen by our advertisers.

The problem with your ad unit was that it was not embedded on the URL specified upon ad unit creation. That was the reason why it hasn't been evaluated and categorized by our moderators.

I changed the URL to http://8ch.net/b/ and I expect that your income will increase and that your site will appear in the catalog (and yes, I agree that it is difficult to find good sites there, we need to solve it somehow).

Thanks again for your kind words and constructive criticism.

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May 10, 2015, 06:47:06 AM
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what are the cpm rates you are paying I have placed ads on my site but not good earnings. Is your site pay per click or only cpm based.


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May 10, 2015, 07:16:16 AM
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what are the cpm rates you are paying I have placed ads on my site but not good earnings. Is your site pay per click or only cpm based.

The price is determined by the market. Our money distribution mechanism is roughly explained here: http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/08/why-am-i-not-paid-for-clicks-what-is.html (reality is a bit more complicated, but the principle is the same). You can see the network-wide charts here: https://a-ads.com/stats (average CPM is ~0.3$ in BTC) but the stats of your particular ad unit may be different.

Please make sure that your ad unit code is available at the particular URL specified upon ad unit creation (you can embed your ad unit to other pages of the same domain too, but it must be present at the specified URL). Also if you disallow Gambling ads then your earnings will be much lower. And it may take about a day (or sometimes more) for your ad unit to get evaluated by our moderators and start generating revenue at full pace.

If you have a quality site with unique traffic but your ad unit earns less than average then please let me know your ad unit ID, I will try to determine the reason and fix it.

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May 31, 2015, 09:35:45 AM
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I begin with my site and I have very few unique visitors.
I have put 2 banners from AAD.
they display advertising but it seems i'm not paid for it.(i think it is the standart advetising from aad)
But if I never get other advertisers...you have displaid ads and I will never be paid.
this is not so with bee-ads...
Am I wrong?


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May 31, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
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I begin with my site and I have very few unique visitors.
I have put 2 banners from AAD.
they display advertising but it seems i'm not paid for it.(i think it is the standart advetising from aad)
But if I never get other advertisers...you have displaid ads and I will never be paid.
this is not so with bee-ads...
Am I wrong?



Thanks for your message!

Please see our network-wide stats here: https://a-ads.com/stats , if your CPM is much lower than average then please let me know your ad unit ID, I'll try to figure out the reason.

You might also want to see this post to get a general idea about how we distribute advertisers' money.

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May 31, 2015, 11:05:17 AM
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I begin with my site and I have very few unique visitors.
I have put 2 banners from AAD.
they display advertising but it seems i'm not paid for it.(i think it is the standart advetising from aad)
But if I never get other advertisers...you have displaid ads and I will never be paid.
this is not so with bee-ads...
Am I wrong?



Thanks for your message!

Please see our network-wide stats here: https://a-ads.com/stats , if your CPM is much lower than average then please let me know your ad unit ID, I'll try to figure out the reason.

You might also want to see this post to get a general idea about how we distribute advertisers' money.


Ad Unit #71763    perfect.winspiral.net    
Ad Unit #71769    perfect.winspiral.net    

Certainly all is not clear for me.

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May 31, 2015, 11:58:16 AM
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Ad Unit #71763    perfect.winspiral.net    
Ad Unit #71769    perfect.winspiral.net    

Certainly all is not clear for me.


Thanks for the info!

I think the main reason is that your ad units are new and their traffic is low. I can see that https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71763/stats has just  4 globally unique impressions whereas https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71769/stats doesn't have any yet.

First we collect some stats about ad unit, then we start paying money from the budgets of advertisers that target this ad unit (with respect to its relative volume of unique traffic and some other factors).

Since your ad unit doesn't have a lot of traffic, it takes more time to collect the stats and start earning.  Moreover it resides in the "Unknown" category that is often not targeted by our advertisers and thus your income might be negligible (or even 0 if your traffic is low due to rounding errors).

New ad units have to be evaluated by our moderators before they get moved into other categories and start earning at full pace. Our moderators check them only after ad units get embedded (on the specified URLs) and start generating unique impressions, it may take some time (usually up to 24 hours, but if it takes longer - feel free to contact me in order to fix it).

I've set the categories for your site and I can see that your ad unit #71763 started earning (https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71763/campaigns).

The other one (#71769) doesn't generate unique traffic and since we don't have paying advertisers for it, we try to monetize it by displaying free affiliate ads, that may bring affiliate rewards to this ad unit.

Thanks again for your message, sorry for the long answer, I hope it makes some sense to you.

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May 31, 2015, 12:15:38 PM
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Thanks,
I'm a little lost with your site,but it is perhaps my English is bad.
I have little difficulties to drive you site.
I cannot understant why I have differencies in unique impression the both banner are on the same pages...

Ok for the page:
https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71763/campaigns
I have oversee it.
But I do not understand why i do not see the banners from the sites i see on the campaigns page.

And I have by error clicked on the cart...
so i see on my profile page on the line Ad Unit #71763 the cart.

Sorry about all this,but your help can also help other people.

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May 31, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
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I cannot understant why I have differencies in unique impression the both banner are on the same pages...

Because (as it is explained in the post I mentioned earlier) only 1 unique impression can be counted for a single IP address during a 24-hour period.

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But I do not understand why i do not see the banners from the sites i see on the campaigns page.

Probably your browser/country language doesn't match the language of the ads. Visitors targeted by your advertisers probably see them.

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And I have by error clicked on the cart...
so i see on my profile page on the line Ad Unit #71763 the cart.

Don't worry about it, it doesn't affect anything unless you want to proceed and start your own advertising campaign.

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May 31, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
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sorry but not clear this story...
then
Ad Unit #71769 will never have impression?

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May 31, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
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A-ads you need to re-work your system, you absolutely need CPC and there are many ways to implement fraud checks for clicks, you are basically cheating users with the unique IP for every 24 hours, not fair if all users go visit one site in your network and than another site gets jack shit, you service pays very little this way!
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June 01, 2015, 07:05:31 AM
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always no impression on Ad Unit #71769
why is here
https://a-ads.com/profile
line Ad Unit #71763 in bold and working
and line Ad Unit #71769 not in bold ?and not working
If i cancel the working banner...will then the not working banner work?
if so...why put 2 banners if only one works?

Please check this problem because it has to be solved when I will invest my ons satoshi to promote my site.zero impression in 2 days if with other concurent system I see 30...then something is not clear.

other problem:
i do not like that i cannot see somewhere the banner who can be on my site (ok if i'm filtered on my site,but i should the see the banner in my aad board)




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Ad Unit #71769 will never have impression?

There is a little probability that #71769 will load before #71763, so if you have lots of traffic, it might get a unique impression. But currently from the point of view the system this ad unit doesn't generate unique traffic and thus it is not included in the default money distribution algorithm. That's why it is displayed as gray.

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If i cancel the working banner...will then the not working banner work?
why put 2 banners if only one works?
Please check this problem because it has to be solved when I will invest my ons satoshi to promote my site.zero impression in 2 days if with other concurent system I see 30...then something is not clear.

They both work but they do it in different modes.

https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71763/stats
https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71769/stats

You can see that both of them have about equal amount of impressions counted. The only difference is that the first one gets more of them counted as unique (and thus earns more).

If you have N banners on a single page, that doesn't mean that you will earn N times more, but it might increase your chances to earn affiliate rewards. If your additional ad unit doesn't display paid ads then it displays free affiliate ads. So it is you to decide whether having additional banners is really useful for advertising purposes.

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i do not like that i cannot see somewhere the banner who can be on my site (ok if i'm filtered on my site,but i should the see the banner in my aad board)

The list of all active advertising campaigns is here: https://a-ads.com/campaigns, the ones that pay you are shown here:  https://a-ads.com/ad_units/71763/campaigns - they get displayed on your site if the language and location of the visitor matches the ones of the ads. You can set your browser language to English and use UK/USA-based proxy to see them on your site.

The part of the problem is that your traffic is 75% French but most of our ads are English or Russian. Actually, French traffic is currently almost free due to lack of competition. This could be an opportunity for you to advertise your business with us or to attract French advertisers and get 50% of our fees from their budgets.

A-ads you need to re-work your system, you absolutely need CPC and there are many ways to implement fraud checks for clicks, you are basically cheating users with the unique IP for every 24 hours, not fair if all users go visit one site in your network and than another site gets jack shit, you service pays very little this way!

Thanks for your feedback. Yes, there are a lot of things that need to be re-worked, but no, we are not cheating users. We are not pay-per-click or pay-per-impression network!  Absolute amount of registered clicks/impressions doesn't matter, only relative amounts are important.

I am not aware of any reliable way to distinguish fake clicks from real ones without invading too much into user's privacy. Probably it is impossible, but if you know some reliable method - please, explain it.

Our ads don't contain javascript or other interactive elements. All we know about visitors is their IP address and few browser headers (and we don't store it longer than is required to count daily uniques). We can't sell real visitors to advertisers because we don't know them.

That's why we aim to reward publishers not for their clicks or impressions but for the profit they bring to our advertisers. In the long run it should be good for both publishers  and advertisers. But it might cause a problem to new small publishers and we don't have enough advertisers that use CPA/Revenue sharing model yet. That's why we use amount of daily unique impressions as our main metric to weight publishers in our money distribution algorithm.

We hope that as we get more advertisers that use CPA/Revenue sharing model, affiliate rewards will become the major source of income (currently it is ~8%).

That's why we have a generous affiliate program ourselves - you get 50% from fees we collect from advertising campaigns created via your affiliate link. And this affiliate link is present in your ad unit too.

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