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September 28, 2013, 01:32:52 PM
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We have sent you our FPGAs half a year ago.


wow 6 months already.. Sad


In April I sent Avalon $2000 in trade-in equipment.    6 months later... Yifu and Avalon have not honored trade-ins.   I will not be buying from Avalon again unless they come up with some sort of compensation.

I got a reply from Yifu to my PM.  He added my trade-ins to the store at BTC17.3035 per board/avalon.  It appears their system uses old quotes or something.  Anyway, I asked him to send me my Icarus boards back or refund me BTC15 for the cost of them.

Here is his PM and my request.


Quote from: BitSyncom on Today at 03:39:14 AM
   Quote from: af_newbie on September 01, 2013, 12:49:15 PM
   Hi Yifu,

   What happened to my trade-ins?  I have delivered my 5 Icarus boards to you guys on April 23rd.

   Have not heard from you since then.  Have you really scammed me?

   I still cannot believe why it takes so long for you to reply to my emails or tickets.
   First ticket created on June 12th, ticket # 961 (on your new system), all details are there.


seems you never got the email to pay, resending.

Hi Yifu,

It seems your mail regarding trade-ins payment is 5 months late.  I cannot pay over BTC17 for each Avalon.
I thought they were suppose to be batch 2 pricing less $300 for Icarus board.  Or $1199 in fiat when difficulty was at 5M.  Now difficulty is at 150M.

Please send my Icarus boards+power supplies back or refund me BTC15 for the Icarus boards.  My address is 1CorsCrBEcbncfnR7BVKadUZbHP7xNZCjJ.

Thanks,
Peter

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September 28, 2013, 05:30:25 PM
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Here is the order page that they generated in my account.
==============================================================
Order #11613 made on September 28, 2013. Order status: trade-in-on-hold.
Order Updates

    Saturday 28th of September 2013, 03:40am

    please send 17.3035 x 5 to 1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN

Order Details
Product    Total
Cart Subtotal:    ฿390.00
Order Total:    ฿390.00
==============================================================

They are comedians.  They cannot be treated seriously.

Let see.  They cannot reply to emails, phone calls, they cannot add or multiply.
Yet they managed to create world's first ASIC???  This just does not make any sense.

I have serious doubts that Yifu and his crew was behind Avalon design.

What happened to 1 month ROI pricing?  Today that is $800/Avalon.

Yifu, just send me my Icarus boards back or refund me the cost of them.


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September 28, 2013, 06:55:56 PM
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At this point they should just promptly ship 1 Avalon per trade-in board without asking for any additional payment.

That's the only way the participants will get any kind of significant reward now in exchange for their early support.

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September 28, 2013, 10:54:56 PM
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They shouldn't even bother to send to send trade-in units as they are almost worthless at this point. What I think they should do is pay everyone that sent out their fpga units the dollar value of the units in btc terms.



No way man! I want my Icarus back. They're extremely valuable development devices.
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September 28, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
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At this point they should just promptly ship 1 Avalon per trade-in board without asking for any additional payment.

That's the only way the participants will get any kind of significant reward now in exchange for their early support.

The keyword is promptly.  In two months nobody will want them even as basement heaters.
Well, maybe for $80 or so, but anything above that is a waste of money as you can get other electric heaters at Walmart for similar price.

The 17+ BTC price was probably generated by their wonderful system.  I don't imagine Yifu to be such an ignorant prick to ask for that kind of money after 5 months delay. 

If he did enter it manually and wants that kind of money, he might be a megalomaniac and should check himself to the closest mental walk-in clinic. 

Yifu, be a man, admit you fucked up, return the boards/pay the cost of them or send free avalons.
Do it, do it now before you lose all credibility in the bitcoin community.
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October 01, 2013, 04:04:10 PM
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my avalon order page says: #114xx   July 12, 2013    Trade-in-on-hold for 3 items

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October 01, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
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my avalon order page says: #114xx   July 12, 2013    Trade-in-on-hold for 3 items



mine shows nothing still...no trade-ins added, nada.
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October 01, 2013, 07:38:59 PM
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my avalon order page says: #114xx   July 12, 2013    Trade-in-on-hold for 3 items



mine shows nothing still...no trade-ins added, nada.

+1 Sad

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October 11, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
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up Cry

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October 11, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
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up Cry

Yifu has yet to rectify this issue with people who sent trade-ins.

I'm out about 18 btc, not even including profits the icarus units could have generated.
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October 12, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
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Maybe we can count the number of fpga boards they stole from us and then try to get some form of and settlement and closure.
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October 13, 2013, 08:44:25 PM
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WTF!

I was really patient. I've been waiting for half a year
Now they have them in stock @avalon-asics.com, auction 500 units of @tradehill

And no single word here Angry


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And then I have to read such bullshit:
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Avalon have learned from previous mistakes and will not longer be participating in any pre-order type of transactions, all products on sale are already sitting in a bonded warehouse ready to ship within 48 hours of ordering.
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@team avalon

WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM ?

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October 13, 2013, 09:26:22 PM
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Dear yxt,

We would like to acknowledge that we have received your request and a ticket has been created with Ticket ID - 1146.
A support representative will be reviewing your request and will send you a personal response.(usually within 24 hours).

To view the status of the ticket or add comments, please visit
http://bitsyncom.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/1146

Thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,
BitSyncom Support Team


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Being Processed since last 111 days 18 hrs

I never got an answer.

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October 13, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
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@team avalon

WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM ?

They like to piss us off... didn't you get this by now ?

Yifu filled his pockets, chinese market is big enough for new products and the rest of the world get the leftovers from the old tech.
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October 13, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
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It seems as if I felt so special that I have not noticed it  Cheesy

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October 13, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
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Yeah a real special feeling... I know what you mean

                       
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October 27, 2013, 07:04:07 PM
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Dead program is dead?

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October 27, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
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yupp, ignoring tickets, mails and PMs


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February 02, 2014, 04:09:30 AM
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-up-  Angry

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February 02, 2014, 04:16:57 AM
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Just out of curiosity: What's the actual resell value of one Spartan FPGA?
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