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February 08, 2013, 01:21:55 AM
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There is a difference between holding true to your principles or wanting that people that you think have misguided beliefs/morals end up eating their children....

I don't *want* people to suffer under socialism, but we must recognize that only massive amounts of inevitable serious negative feedback will change their misguided "hearts."

Anyway, Argentina's Kirchner problem isn't even remotely related to what *I* think.  Personalizing the argument is pretty thin gravy.

In actual reality, inflation is accelerating and price controls are being implemented, resulting in unrest/panic/shortages/hoarding/riots/violence/death.

Those are objective features of the world, not my subjective opinion. 

I could grow the soppiest bleeding heart ever just to satisfy reproachful little you, and it wouldn't change the price of bread in Buenos Aires.

Actions have consequences.  Your desire to see the poor widdle nationalist and Marxist scum insulated from those consequences is irrelevant.

Your belief to the contrary is mere wishful thinking. 

Kind of like Kirchner's aggressive territorial expansionist pipe dream of reclaiming the Falklands, despite the wishes of the islanders.

Las Malvinas?  LOL, not gonna happen.







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February 09, 2013, 12:45:42 AM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

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February 09, 2013, 01:08:47 AM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.



And North Korea shows the tragic end-point of this paradigm.

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February 09, 2013, 06:48:46 AM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

OMG You are so mean!!!  GRow a HEart!!11


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February 09, 2013, 02:16:44 PM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

OMG You are so mean!!!  GRow a HEart!!11

Oh shut up...  You are portraying me like a sobby schoolgirl and putting words in my mouth. Where did I 'demand that degeneracy be indulged' or 'believe that actions don't have consequences' ?  I only reacted because you sounded like a fucking extremist that was getting off on people living in miserable conditions.  
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February 09, 2013, 03:16:47 PM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

i know im going to get flak for this, but that description sounds like capitalism: the jealousy of another's riches versus being content with what one has and not continuously (and unsustainably) striving for more; and the ruthless competition that wastes more resources than the innovation it breeds.

see? generalizing over entire schools of economic thought is easy. stop acting like a bunch of indoctrinated westerners. did you guys grow up during the red scare or something? "-isms" aren't inherently evil.

this sentence has fifteen words, seventy-four letters, four commas, one hyphen, and a period.
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February 09, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

OMG You are so mean!!!  GRow a HEart!!11

For the children!!!111

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Socialism/communism is much more corrosive than just the negative effect any single ruling party can have. As a mindset, it imbibes at least half the population, sometimes as many as 90%, with an entitled culture whereby they spend most of their lives looking over the fence jealously envying what someone else has and thinking somehow that their birthright has been stolen from them. The net effect is it tears the fabric of society apart as individuals turn/work against each other, instead for themselves albeit in total in the same direction.

OMG You are so mean!!!  GRow a HEart!!11

For the children!!!111

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February 10, 2013, 01:38:02 PM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.
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February 10, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

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February 10, 2013, 09:49:36 PM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

I smell it here in the US, the supposed king of capitalism.  It smells like government guarantees of loans.  In other words, publicize losses (government bailouts), privatize profits (fewer and fewer people are getting wealthier and wealthier).  What we need are strong local communities and weak central government.  If the politicians have the power to bail out the banks at the expense of the populace, they will do so when the bankers come screaming that the sky is falling.  We need to take this power away and bitcoin will play a role.  It may be large or small, but it will play a part.

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February 11, 2013, 07:13:05 AM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

I smell it here in the US, the supposed king of capitalism.  It smells like government guarantees of loans.  In other words, publicize losses (government bailouts), privatize profits (fewer and fewer people are getting wealthier and wealthier).  What we need are strong local communities and weak central government.  If the politicians have the power to bail out the banks at the expense of the populace, they will do so when the bankers come screaming that the sky is falling.  We need to take this power away and bitcoin will play a role.  It may be large or small, but it will play a part.

I hear you and agree.

There are 2 ways (at least for me) to interpret the bolded sentence: Do you a) mean that bitcoin will play a role in taking away that power or b) that when we take away that power, bitcoin can play a role in society?

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February 11, 2013, 06:42:53 PM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

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February 19, 2013, 02:16:19 AM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

I smell it here in the US, the supposed king of capitalism.  It smells like government guarantees of loans.  In other words, publicize losses (government bailouts), privatize profits (fewer and fewer people are getting wealthier and wealthier).  What we need are strong local communities and weak central government.  If the politicians have the power to bail out the banks at the expense of the populace, they will do so when the bankers come screaming that the sky is falling.  We need to take this power away and bitcoin will play a role.  It may be large or small, but it will play a part.

I hear you and agree.

There are 2 ways (at least for me) to interpret the bolded sentence: Do you a) mean that bitcoin will play a role in taking away that power or b) that when we take away that power, bitcoin can play a role in society?


a

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February 19, 2013, 06:34:17 AM
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Socialism/communism is .....

A totally undefined term which apparently you are using as a scapegoat for some kind of your own personal difficulties.

You'll know it when you smell it .... as to my personal difficulties, lets just say they have more to do with Euler than what you seem to be trying to smear me with.

I smell it here in the US, the supposed king of capitalism.  It smells like government guarantees of loans.  In other words, publicize losses (government bailouts), privatize profits (fewer and fewer people are getting wealthier and wealthier).  What we need are strong local communities and weak central government.  If the politicians have the power to bail out the banks at the expense of the populace, they will do so when the bankers come screaming that the sky is falling.  We need to take this power away and bitcoin will play a role.  It may be large or small, but it will play a part.

I hear you and agree.

There are 2 ways (at least for me) to interpret the bolded sentence: Do you a) mean that bitcoin will play a role in taking away that power or b) that when we take away that power, bitcoin can play a role in society?


a

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