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October 22, 2018, 08:49:48 AM
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/10/15/cruz-hits-orourke-voting-no-funds-israels-iron-dome-missile-defense?fbclid=IwAR3tZsxLLNQeGSiQSZQPeJM742-SlLdcnXp4CTgs0U0DinflqEg3aD7JqwQ

Can't even win in an honest debate, has to resort to lies to attack his opponent. What a shithead, seems par course for normal GOP members though.

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/10/15/cruz-hits-orourke-voting-no-funds-israels-iron-dome-missile-defense?fbclid=IwAR3tZsxLLNQeGSiQSZQPeJM742-SlLdcnXp4CTgs0U0DinflqEg3aD7JqwQ

Can't even win in an honest debate, has to resort to lies to attack his opponent. What a shithead, seems par course for normal GOP members though.



You lie about an article that's got issues with the truth itself.

Sen. Ted Cruz asserts that Rep. Beto O’Rourke has “the most anti-Israel record of any Senate Democratic candidate.” To back up the claim, he points to one particular vote against funding for Iron Dome, a defense system that lets Israel knock down rockets raining down from Gaza and elsewhere.

The article does NOT DISPUTE that O'Rourke has the most anti-Israel record. Instead it goes off on a tangent about comparative voting records for Iron Dome.

You seem to think there's material there to allege lying.

How about that.
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October 22, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
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Iron dome has absolutely nothing to do with iron dome.


And this is why trolls are concerned trolls.

Misinformation at its best people.
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October 23, 2018, 12:58:33 AM
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Iron dome has absolutely nothing to do with iron dome.


And this is why trolls are concerned trolls.

Misinformation at its best people.

I think most people know about the anti-missile defense system that we've provided to Isreal, entitled Iron Dome.

Please stop the ducking and dodging. It's not even clever.
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October 24, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
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Iron dome has absolutely nothing to do with iron dome.


And this is why trolls are concerned trolls.

Misinformation at its best people.

I think most people know about the anti-missile defense system that we've provided to Isreal, entitled Iron Dome.

Please stop the ducking and dodging. It's not even clever.

O’Rourke has voted to fund Iron Dome numerous times, but opposed funding one particular time. And the senator has voted four times himself against larger measures that provided funds for Iron Dome.

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One vote vs four votes, it's alright though because he's the most anti-isreal candidate Wink

Normally, when someone makes an extraordinary claim like someone being "the most", they'd present reasonable evidence. His single vote against a single bill doesn't seem "extraordinary" in any way, shape or form.

Really, it's all about lying Cruz.

It's kinda say you push misinformation regarding the article without even reading it.
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One vote vs four votes, it's alright though because he's the most anti-isreal candidate Wink

Normally, when someone makes an extraordinary claim like someone being "the most", they'd present reasonable evidence. His single vote against a single bill doesn't seem "extraordinary" in any way, shape or form.

Really, it's all about lying Cruz.

It's kinda say you push misinformation regarding the article without even reading it.

Already answered your assertion, but I'll repeat since you seem to have ignored it.

The article does NOT DISPUTE that O'Rourke has the most anti-Israel record. Instead it goes off on a tangent about comparative voting records for Iron Dome.

You argue that the article says something it does not say.

You are wasting peoples' time with that.
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October 25, 2018, 06:04:31 PM
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One vote vs four votes, it's alright though because he's the most anti-isreal candidate Wink

Normally, when someone makes an extraordinary claim like someone being "the most", they'd present reasonable evidence. His single vote against a single bill doesn't seem "extraordinary" in any way, shape or form.

Really, it's all about lying Cruz.

It's kinda say you push misinformation regarding the article without even reading it.

Already answered your assertion, but I'll repeat since you seem to have ignored it.

The article does NOT DISPUTE that O'Rourke has the most anti-Israel record. Instead it goes off on a tangent about comparative voting records for Iron Dome.

You argue that the article says something it does not say.

You are wasting peoples' time with that.

You obviously didn't read the article my friend.

I'll go ahead and quote directly from the article. If you did actually read the article, I think you need some better reading comprehension.

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The claim: "Beto is most anti-Israel because this one vote"

Stated here:

Sen. Ted Cruz asserts that Rep. Beto O’Rourke has “the most anti-Israel record of any Senate Democratic candidate.” To back up the claim, he points to one particular vote against funding for Iron Dome, a defense system that lets Israel knock down rockets raining down from Gaza and elsewhere.

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The article does dispute that the claim by just posting contradictory evidence:

Here is a look at funding for Iron Dome through Defense Appropriations bills since Cruz and O’Rourke have been in Washington:

FY2014: $235.309 million passed. The House voted 315-108; O'Rourke supported. Passed in the Senate 84-15; Cruz did not support it.

FY2014 supplemental bill for $225 million: The House voted 395-8, O’Rourke did not support it. The Senate unanimously voted for the bill.

FY2015: Of the $585 million in the Defense Appropriations bill, $351 million went to Israel’s Iron Dome. It passed in the House with a unanimous vote. It eventually passed in the Senate after changes with a vote of 89-11. Cruz voted against it.

FY2016: $55 million, though the bill was vetoed by President Barack Obama. The House passed the appropriations with a vote of 269-151, with O’Rourke voting for it. The Senate passed it with a 71-25 vote; Cruz did not support it. A revised bill, S 1356, was signed by Obama on Nov. 25, 2015. The House passed it 370-58; O’Rourke voted for it. The Senate passed it with a vote of 91-3; Cruz did not cast a vote.  

FY2017: Congress passed the NDAA authorizing $600.7 million for missile defense and anti-tunneling efforts. O’Rourke voted against the spending, but it passed in the House, 277-147. The Senate had its own version of the appropriations and it passed 85-13. Cruz voted against it.  

FY2018: Congress authorized $705 million for Israel missile defense. Passed in the House 344-81, O’Rourke supported the spending. Passed in the Senate 89-8, marking the first time Cruz supported defense appropriations spending.  

FY2019: $500 million for co-development and co-production of Iron Dome and other Israeli defense programs. Passed in the House 351-66, O’Rourke supported. Passed in the Senate 85-10 with support from Cruz.  
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