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April 12, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
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Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.

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April 12, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
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Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.
I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.
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April 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
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Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.
I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

Islam actually codified how to govern the conquered lands right in their "holy" book.  
Who is Muslim, who is not, who needs to pay 'protection tax", what rights the Muslims have, what rights (if any) the non-Muslims have etc?
So ideally, Islam wants to govern the whole world.  That is its goal.  Total, global submission.

Vatican for a long time collected "tax" from all conquered lands.

It is all about power.  Ideologically they are the same.  Except Christianity lost a lot of its former power.
Islam is gaining momentum...More naive, uneducated people are drawn to it.
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April 12, 2017, 03:16:41 PM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

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April 12, 2017, 06:17:52 PM
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The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

South Korea does not need any more "family planning" They have yet to recover from the last round of such policies.

South Korea Demographics
https://www.pop.org/content/south-korea-%E2%80%9Cgoing-extinct%E2%80%9D
Quote from: Paul Wilson

The near-term demographic future of the southern half of the Korean Peninsula looks grim. Assuming that the current low-low fertility rate of 1.19 children per woman continues indefinitely, as NARS did, the population of South Korea will dwindle to less than half its current size by the end of the 21st century. It will go from 50 million down to 20 million, losing 60% of its population in less than 100 years..
South Korea’s low fertility is in large part the result of American efforts to combat “overpopulation” by exporting so-called “family planning” programs around the world. In South Korea, as in so many other countries, these efforts had a coercive element as families who dared to have more than two children were punished in various ways.[1]

Population control efforts in South Korea proved all too successful, and South Korean fertility rates plummeted from around 6 in 1960 down to a shockingly anemic 1.2 children in 2004. Even after overt anti-natal policies were discontinued in 1996, the fertility rate did not recover, but continued to drop.

[1] Mosher, Steven W. "The Crisis of the Empty Cradle." Population Control: Real Costs, Illusory Benefits. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction, 2008. 20-25.

I have yet to see any demographic breakdown of the Christian vs the non Christian populations of South Korea but near universal trend globally is that Christians are more resistant to such demographic implosions. Christianity is already one of the largest religions in South Korea and I suspect that trend will only continue.

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April 12, 2017, 07:17:32 PM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.
I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.
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April 12, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.
I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

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April 12, 2017, 10:33:42 PM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.
I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

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Really?  Population doubles every 70/(growth rate) years.  Currently, the global population will double every 64 years.
If you think this is not a problem you don't understand how serious the problem with overpopulation really is.


7.5B - 2017
15B - 2081
30B - 2145
60B - 2199

There is no escape from doubling time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

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April 12, 2017, 11:15:51 PM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.
I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

Cool

Really?  Population doubles every 70/(growth rate) years.  Currently, the global population will double every 64 years.
If you think this is not a problem you don't understand how serious the problem with overpopulation really is.


7.5B - 2017
15B - 2081
30B - 2145
60B - 2199

There is no escape from doubling time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population


Trust me, the overpopulation of the earth will not. Man is so constituted that he could not live long without war. Can be such an aggressive nature to us as a mechanism for preventing overpopulation?


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April 13, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
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I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.
I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

Cool

Really?  Population doubles every 70/(growth rate) years.  Currently, the global population will double every 64 years.
If you think this is not a problem you don't understand how serious the problem with overpopulation really is.


7.5B - 2017
15B - 2081
30B - 2145
60B - 2199

There is no escape from doubling time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population


The only reason the doubling happens is that there is enough food and water. When the population grows beyond the ability to grow food or purify the water, people will simply die faster.

Your life is useless to you. It might be fun, but when you die everything is gone for you. When the population reaches the point that the earth can no longer sustain the rapid growth, the growth will slow down automatically.

Death is inevitable. The only difference is the time of death. History shows that when there is no food, people die faster. Famines are going on right now in some places on earth that show this to be true. Consider the below picture from your buddy, Moloch.



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April 13, 2017, 03:11:04 AM
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If Christianity is considered as a poison, then each and every development that has happened in the earth need to be considered the same. It can be strongly said that Christian missionaries played a big role in the growth of most world countries.

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If Christianity is considered as a poison, then each and every development that has happened in the earth need to be considered the same. It can be strongly said that Christian missionaries played a big role in the growth of most world countries.

Right!

In the Old Testament we find an angel called The Angel Of The Lord. Because of the descriptions of Him and His attributes, He is considered by many to be the pre-incarnate Jesus.

The O.T. also declares that God is a Spirit. Which person of the Godhead walked in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve after they sinned?

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April 13, 2017, 07:34:14 AM
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I see a new story like this nearly every day... whats with all the pedophile pastors?  I thought that was only catholic priests...

Pastor Who Said Pulse Nightclub Victims Got “What They Deserve” Found Guilty of Child Molestation
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/04/11/pastor-who-said-pulse-nightclub-victims-got-what-they-deserve-found-guilty-of-child-molestation/

Found guilty on 8 separate accounts
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I see a new story like this nearly every day... whats with all the pedophile pastors?  I thought that was only catholic priests...

Pastor Who Said Pulse Nightclub Victims Got “What They Deserve” Found Guilty of Child Molestation
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/04/11/pastor-who-said-pulse-nightclub-victims-got-what-they-deserve-found-guilty-of-child-molestation/

Found guilty on 8 separate accounts

LOL. Karma is a bitch.
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April 19, 2017, 06:27:29 PM
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.
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April 19, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.
Why only Christianity? Every religion is a means of enslavement of the people. All the activities are intended to live at the expense of believers. Religion is more of a vampire than poison. It is not profitable to kill the victim. It is advantageous for it to parasitize.
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.

Why only Christianity? Every religion is a means of enslavement of the people. All the activities are intended to live at the expense of believers. Religion is more of a vampire than poison. It is not profitable to kill the victim. It is advantageous for it to parasitize.

It's difficult to place all religions in the same basket

I suppose it's mostly the Abrahamic religions causing grief among the world (Jews, Christians, Muslims)

I haven't seen many/any reports of violence/terrorism from followers of Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Satanism, Paganism, etc...

It's really just the 3 Abrahamic religions causing trouble... the other religions are rather benign (except perhaps for believing in a few fairy tales)
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I see a new story like this nearly every day... whats with all the pedophile pastors?  I thought that was only catholic priests...

Pastor Who Said Pulse Nightclub Victims Got “What They Deserve” Found Guilty of Child Molestation
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/04/11/pastor-who-said-pulse-nightclub-victims-got-what-they-deserve-found-guilty-of-child-molestation/

Found guilty on 8 separate accounts

I propose to make some new proverbs. "The brighter the light, the harsher the shadow" and "What did they fly said to the garbage? I will find you,".

Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.
I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

Islam actually codified how to govern the conquered lands right in their "holy" book.  
Who is Muslim, who is not, who needs to pay 'protection tax", what rights the Muslims have, what rights (if any) the non-Muslims have etc?
So ideally, Islam wants to govern the whole world.  That is its goal.  Total, global submission.

Vatican for a long time collected "tax" from all conquered lands.

It is all about power.  Ideologically they are the same.  Except Christianity lost a lot of its former power.
Islam is gaining momentum...More naive, uneducated people are drawn to it.

This is why it they be exposed. Make a subject in school about religions past and present. Don't mince words when talking about their history, like how Inquisition burned "heretics" or how Muhammad personally beheaded people. And with that, let them compete in the free market of faith. Christianity only seem benign because there are alternatives to it (even within Christianity, because of the numerous sects) and the secular state took away its temporal powers. It might be hard to do with Islam in its native territory (which it also acquired through conquest BTW) but non-Muslim countries still have a chance, if they are willing.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

South Korea does not need any more "family planning" They have yet to recover from the last round of such policies.

South Korea Demographics
https://www.pop.org/content/south-korea-%E2%80%9Cgoing-extinct%E2%80%9D
Quote from: Paul Wilson

The near-term demographic future of the southern half of the Korean Peninsula looks grim. Assuming that the current low-low fertility rate of 1.19 children per woman continues indefinitely, as NARS did, the population of South Korea will dwindle to less than half its current size by the end of the 21st century. It will go from 50 million down to 20 million, losing 60% of its population in less than 100 years..
South Korea’s low fertility is in large part the result of American efforts to combat “overpopulation” by exporting so-called “family planning” programs around the world. In South Korea, as in so many other countries, these efforts had a coercive element as families who dared to have more than two children were punished in various ways.[1]

Population control efforts in South Korea proved all too successful, and South Korean fertility rates plummeted from around 6 in 1960 down to a shockingly anemic 1.2 children in 2004. Even after overt anti-natal policies were discontinued in 1996, the fertility rate did not recover, but continued to drop.

[1] Mosher, Steven W. "The Crisis of the Empty Cradle." Population Control: Real Costs, Illusory Benefits. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction, 2008. 20-25.

I have yet to see any demographic breakdown of the Christian vs the non Christian populations of South Korea but near universal trend globally is that Christians are more resistant to such demographic implosions. Christianity is already one of the largest religions in South Korea and I suspect that trend will only continue.

This should serve as a reminder to anyone who play with demographics. China, despite still being fairly populous, is quickly aging as a result of the One Child policy. Japan also have an aging population. Birthrates go down anyway as a country industrializes so if they'll ever require a maximum number of kids, it should be at least well above replacement level.
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April 20, 2017, 01:48:35 AM
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.

Why only Christianity? Every religion is a means of enslavement of the people. All the activities are intended to live at the expense of believers. Religion is more of a vampire than poison. It is not profitable to kill the victim. It is advantageous for it to parasitize.

It's difficult to place all religions in the same basket

I suppose it's mostly the Abrahamic religions causing grief among the world (Jews, Christians, Muslims)

I haven't seen many/any reports of violence/terrorism from followers of Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Satanism, Paganism, etc...

It's really just the 3 Abrahamic religions causing trouble... the other religions are rather benign (except perhaps for believing in a few fairy tales)

Actually, it is those who oppose the Abrahamic religions who are causing the trouble.

God says that the descendents of Abraham sill be strong. Why do folks oppose God by opposing the Abrahamic religions? They will lose if they do this.

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