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April 24, 2017, 10:56:09 AM
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Christianity is logical.

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While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc,  it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept.
Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  Huh

At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity.

Illogical.


What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you.

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Since you cannot construct even a basic argument against what I just said, I must presume this is your way of agreeing with me.

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I will just leave this here as a preface to my longer response:

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It is, at best, a silly notion that any book with over 200 contradictions would be considered the infallible word of a "perfect" intellect.  

Yes, I realize that man wrote the bible but this is stands also in contradiction of the infallible assertion.  

Furthermore, it does not get to the heart of the issue to argue that Christianity is poison or religion X is toxic.  The real issue is our human tendency to believe.  All beliefs are assumptions be they positive (I believe x) or negative (I do not believe y).  Beliefs are cognitively lazy and simplify any thought on the subject to which they apply.  So it is not enough, by any stretch, to just be an atheist or wave about whatever ideological flag one has adopted.  Indeed, such adoptions cripple the evolution of personal opinion.  If one finds it necessary to claim I am this or that, other than to say "I am human" or "I am complex", then they are no doubt in a place of lesser opinion motility then those who find little value in such self-labeling.  

Skepticism, on the other hand, requires persistent, and on occasion, exhausting effort to sustain.  Faith also requires effort but only when those claiming to have it are confronted with evidence that contradicts what they assume to be true.  In our modern age it is now necessary for faith to "increase" as such evidence is practically everywhere.  The only way to escape it is to wall the mind way, disconnect from or oppress any source of information that may so much as drop such a "threatening" bread crumb.  



      
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.



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April 24, 2017, 03:14:45 PM
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.


Christianity is life. Christianity:
1. Describes the source of life, God;
2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning;
3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning;
4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life;
5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us;
6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life;
7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like.

Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing.

In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible.

The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death.

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April 24, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.


Christianity is life. Christianity:
1. Describes the source of life, God;
2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning;
3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning;
4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life;
5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us;
6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life;
7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like.

Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing.

In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible.

The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death.

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I love life and I agree with Buffer Overflow.  Christianity is an addiction. It poisons your mind.  Makes you a slave to its ideology.
It blames you and makes feel weak, it belittles people, it subjugates people, it discriminates, it is a mind poison on so many levels.

When (if) you free yourself from the shackles of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), you are truly free.  You can think for yourself and evaluate the world the way it is.

People who believe in Christianity are afraid of everything.  They believe in imaginary beings like devil and ghosts.  I are afraid to be alone in the dark or go to the cemetery at night.  Christianity clouds their judgement, it creates an invisible cloak over their mind.

Everything they do or think is in the context of the Christian ideology.  They see God (and/or Devil) in everything and everyone they interact with.  They are brainwashed.  There is no difference between Scientology and Christianity, IMHO.  Fundamentally, they work on the same premise.  You are broken and we are here to fix you, if you follow us and pay a small fee.



 
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April 24, 2017, 07:53:46 PM
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.


Christianity is life. Christianity:
1. Describes the source of life, God;
2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning;
3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning;
4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life;
5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us;
6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life;
7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like.

Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing.

In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible.

The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death.

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I love life and I agree with Buffer Overflow.  Christianity is an addiction. It poisons your mind.  Makes you a slave to its ideology.
It blames you and makes feel weak, it belittles people, it subjugates people, it discriminates, it is a mind poison on so many levels.

When (if) you free yourself from the shackles of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), you are truly free.  You can think for yourself and evaluate the world the way it is.

People who believe in Christianity are afraid of everything.  They believe in imaginary beings like devil and ghosts.  I are afraid to be alone in the dark or go to the cemetery at night.  Christianity clouds their judgement, it creates an invisible cloak over their mind.

Everything they do or think is in the context of the Christian ideology.  They see God (and/or Devil) in everything and everyone they interact with.  They are brainwashed.  There is no difference between Scientology and Christianity, IMHO.  Fundamentally, they work on the same premise.  You are broken and we are here to fix you, if you follow us and pay a small fee.


Slavery exists throughout the universe without Christianity and without anything we do or say. How does slavery exist? Can you literally, using your own two legs, jump to the moon? If you can, you are probably the only one. If you are not a slave to gravity, then you are a slave to something else, even if it is needing your own brain to stabilize a thinking mind within yourself.

So, true freedom amounts to being able to work harmoniously withing the universe, inside the bonds of your slavery, to allow yourself the most freedom and comfort as possible.

This is what Christianity does for you. Christianity asks you to love all people, to show this love, and it uses the laws of the Old Testament as the guide that shows you the actions you will do to express your love.

Will obeying the laws of the O.T. in the love of the N.T. be beneficial in your freedom? Absolutely, YES! Why? Because then peace-loving people around you will treat you well, because of the good you show them, because of following the laws and love suggestions of Christianity.

In addition, Christianity shows you how to be saved to eternal life, thereby freeing you from the deep bondage/slavery of death. And since it warns about rejecting God, warns about the lake of fire torment such rejection will bring, it frees you from the coming torment, as well, if you accept the freedom.

Pure Christianity is by far the best freedom around. The only time it is not freedom, is when the people who view it would rather have slavery. And even then it is freedom. Why? Because it allows all people the freedom to select slavery if they want.

Now, if that is poison to anyone, he/she has been warped by his/her own evil passions. Slavery is never freedom, but is almost always poison. Christianity offers freedom, so it is absolutely NOT slavery, or poison.

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April 24, 2017, 08:32:58 PM
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.




Remember that poison is sometimes used as medicine and just as everything if you take it too much it can be dangerous and some people see "salvation" in it. But BADecker is taking it too far most of the times. Cheesy
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Remember that poison is sometimes used as medicine and just as everything if you take it too much it can be dangerous and some people see "salvation" in it. But BADecker is taking it too far most of the times. Cheesy

All medical medicine is poison.

Christianity is the way to salvation.

My use of Christianity is done in the hope that some will be saved.

The question is, who can make a proper determination about when expressing Christianity is taking it to far? since salvation of souls is the object?

Quote from: Ecclesiastes 7:15-18
15 In this meaningless life of mine I have seen both of these: a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness.

16 Do not be overrighteous, neither be overwise—why destroy yourself?

17 Do not be overwicked, and do not be a fool—why die before your time?

18 It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other. The man who fears God will avoid all extremes

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Remember that poison is sometimes used as medicine and just as everything if you take it too much it can be dangerous and some people see "salvation" in it. But BADecker is taking it too far most of the times. Cheesy

All medical medicine is poison.

Christianity is the way to salvation.

My use of Christianity is done in the hope that some will be saved.

The question is, who can make a proper determination about when expressing Christianity is taking it to far? since salvation of souls is the object?

Quote from: Ecclesiastes 7:15-18
15 In this meaningless life of mine I have seen both of these: a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness.

16 Do not be overrighteous, neither be overwise—why destroy yourself?

17 Do not be overwicked, and do not be a fool—why die before your time?

18 It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other. The man who fears God will avoid all extremes

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What does it mean "salvation of souls"?  What is a "soul"?  Are you in some sort of recycling business?

Why do you need to salvage souls? 

You need to populate the imaginary heaven with souls? 

Or reduce the soul populations in your imaginary hell?

Your purpose in life puzzles me.

 
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Remember that poison is sometimes used as medicine and just as everything if you take it too much it can be dangerous and some people see "salvation" in it. But BADecker is taking it too far most of the times. Cheesy

All medical medicine is poison.

Christianity is the way to salvation.

My use of Christianity is done in the hope that some will be saved.

The question is, who can make a proper determination about when expressing Christianity is taking it to far? since salvation of souls is the object?

Quote from: Ecclesiastes 7:15-18
15 In this meaningless life of mine I have seen both of these: a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness.

16 Do not be overrighteous, neither be overwise—why destroy yourself?

17 Do not be overwicked, and do not be a fool—why die before your time?

18 It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other. The man who fears God will avoid all extremes

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What does it mean "salvation of souls"?  What is a "soul"?  Are you in some sort of recycling business?

Why do you need to salvage souls? 

You need to populate the imaginary heaven with souls? 

Or reduce the soul populations in your imaginary hell?

Your purpose in life puzzles me.


I thought you had done all kinds of religious studies. Am I mistaken about that?

There are dictionaries and encyclopedias where you can look up the definition and description of the soul. I'm not going to reprint all that here just for your retarded satisfaction.

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The question is, who can make a proper determination about when expressing Christianity is taking it to far? since salvation of souls is the object?

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When wicked people start posting evil stuff like this:

So, the best way we can help locked-in (won't change) sodomite unbelievers, and all locked-in unbelievers, is to execute them as fast as possible.

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Take a sit down in the corner, drink a coffee and sober up BADlogic, before you injure yourself and/or others. You're intoxicated up to the eyeballs with Christianity. A period of abstinence is needed.
Remember:

Moderation - Good.
Over-indulgence - Bad.




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The question is, who can make a proper determination about when expressing Christianity is taking it to far? since salvation of souls is the object?

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When wicked people start posting evil stuff like this:

So, the best way we can help locked-in (won't change) sodomite unbelievers, and all locked-in unbelievers, is to execute them as fast as possible.

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Take a sit down in the corner, drink a coffee and sober up BADlogic, before you injure yourself and/or others. You're intoxicated up to the eyeballs with Christianity. A period of abstinence is needed.
Remember:

Moderation - Good.
Over-indulgence - Bad.


If you saw a person who was in excruciating pain, and would never have a chance to get out of the pain, wouldn't you think about mercy killing? There are lots of people who think about it. And there are even doctors that help their patients with suicide because of it.

We don't know for sure who is a locked-in unbeliever. But if we could tell, wouldn't you want to execute them so that they would receive less eternal agony in Hell? I mean, if there wasn't any chance that they would turn and be saved, why let them live longer so that they do more evil to get punished for throughout all eternity. Mercy killing!

Perhaps you should consider the seriousness of not turning to Jesus salvation. The picture of the pains of Hell that I might paint should be scaring you into examining the facts clearly. After all, you don't know for a fact that I am entirely wrong. And what if I am not only right, but am not even expressing the hundredth part of how bad it will be?

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April 24, 2017, 10:25:05 PM
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Christianity is logical.

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While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc,  it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept.
Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  Huh

At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity.

Illogical.


What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you.

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Any religion is not logical. All religion wants to develop a person's guilt and educates people to submit to atone for the guilt which is not before God that does not exist. This is nonsense!

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Christianity is logical.

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While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc,  it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept.
Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  Huh

At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity.

Illogical.


What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you.

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Any religion is not logical. All religion wants to develop a person's guilt and educates people to submit to atone for the guilt which is not before God that does not exist. This is nonsense!

That's why we need to get rid of religions like atheism.

We need to look at the religion of Christianity, and convert the understandings it provides, into the facts that they are, so we don't need it as a religion any longer. After all, Christianity is truth besides being a religion.

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April 24, 2017, 10:58:58 PM
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Christianity is logical.

While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc,  it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept.
Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  Huh

At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity.

Illogical.


What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you.

Any religion is not logical. All religion wants to develop a person's guilt and educates people to submit to atone for the guilt which is not before God that does not exist. This is nonsense!


Which part doesn't make sense?

This part?



Or this part?

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If you saw a person who was in excruciating pain, and would never have a chance to get out of the pain, wouldn't you think about mercy killing? There are lots of people who think about it. And there are even doctors that help their patients with suicide because of it.

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Yes, but you forgot one slight little thing you swept under the carpet. The patient gives permission!


We don't know for sure who is a locked-in unbeliever. But if we could tell, wouldn't you want to execute them so that they would receive less eternal agony in Hell? I mean, if there wasn't any chance that they would turn and be saved, why let them live longer so that they do more evil to get punished for throughout all eternity. Mercy killing!

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Full of assumptions. That makes it cold-blooded murder, not mercy killing.


Perhaps you should consider the seriousness of not turning to Jesus salvation.

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No compelling reason to. Plus you've assumed I need salvation in the first place, which is misleading.


The picture of the pains of Hell that I might paint should be scaring you into examining the facts clearly.

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Since I know for a fact you have no idea what happens when we die (if anything), because you haven't died yet to find out, why would it? In fact, because you are so obviously lying so much, why should anybody believe anything you say about anything?


After all, you don't know for a fact that I am entirely wrong. And what if I am not only right, but am not even expressing the hundredth part of how bad it will be?

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Are you aware what the Quran says about those that don't follow Allah?





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April 24, 2017, 11:16:55 PM
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If you saw a person who was in excruciating pain, and would never have a chance to get out of the pain, wouldn't you think about mercy killing? There are lots of people who think about it. And there are even doctors that help their patients with suicide because of it.

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Yes, but you forgot one slight little thing you swept under the carpet. The patient gives permission!
Didn't forget. It simply didn't have anything to do with what I was talking about.




We don't know for sure who is a locked-in unbeliever. But if we could tell, wouldn't you want to execute them so that they would receive less eternal agony in Hell? I mean, if there wasn't any chance that they would turn and be saved, why let them live longer so that they do more evil to get punished for throughout all eternity. Mercy killing!

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Full of assumptions. That makes it cold-blooded murder, not mercy killing.
You can't have murder if nobody dies.




Perhaps you should consider the seriousness of not turning to Jesus salvation.

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No compelling reason to. Plus you've assumed I need salvation in the first place, which is misleading.
If you don't have salvation, you will die. In fact, the life that you have is a part of salvation in action. To make it last, you need to accept it. Death from this life is nothing. Eternal death is similar to eternal dying, in pain and agony. If that isn't enough to compel you to find salvation, have it your way.




The picture of the pains of Hell that I might paint should be scaring you into examining the facts clearly.

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Since I know for a fact you have no idea what happens when we die (if anything), because you haven't died yet to find out, why would it? In fact, because you are so obviously lying so much, why should anybody believe anything you say about anything?
God let us know in the Bible... some of what happens when we die. Having read the Bible, I know at least some of it.




After all, you don't know for a fact that I am entirely wrong. And what if I am not only right, but am not even expressing the hundredth part of how bad it will be?

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Are you aware what the Quran says about those that don't follow Allah?


Are you aware that the Koran doesn't have nearly the strength that the Bible has? The strength of the Koran is in Stockholm Syndrome, even though it isn't called that. Bible fear is in eternal reality. Come out of the fear, and be saved.

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Christianity is logical.

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While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc,  it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept.
Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  Huh

At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity.

Illogical.


What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you.

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Any religion is not logical. All religion wants to develop a person's guilt and educates people to submit to atone for the guilt which is not before God that does not exist. This is nonsense!
Atone for the guilt ..Most people don't unless caught and then they only show it so people will feel sorry for them ..Well could get you a less sentence? or a less beating?..

So really most humans show no guilt unless been caught red handed ..
Laugh at your guilt if been caught you will get worse and humans know it..
So how much guilt is really real amongst humans?..

Now if you look at history most leaders you would say they are religious of some sort?..
How many go on to cause WAR?..

So if religious does religion mean you are a peaceful person?..

CHRISTIANITY AND ALL RELIGIONS ARE FOR CRAZIES..

Your likkle pretend forwend GOD..

YOU DIE TO MAKE ROOM FOR ANOTHER LIFE..So don't be selfish  Grin.
You already done good by giving someone else ago VERY NICE OF YOU..

So no need for heaven you will be a good person when you die..
JUST MADE ROOM FOR SOMEONE ELSE.. <The circle of life
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All religion is poison sometimes the religion poison will kill you or abuse you so make sure you read the label before you try..ISLAM highly TOXIC so avoid  Wink..

Shame on the family   NO SHAME ON YOU for not loving your children over a book ..

You should feel more for what your child thinks than the village or neighbours..

NO GODS CAN HELP     ONLY YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF..

And in this day and age with CAPITALISM you will really need to help yourself .
No no one else will < capitalism we need as many as those beasts as we can get.

Take a deep breath and say i can do it i can do it..

If you believe you will do it..Do what you ask?  well anything you want you believe  Grin.

If we can stop the religion it will be one good start for humanity to get along .

The bad is worse than the good in religion so lets get shut and GROW UP..

Instead of reading fairy tales if we all read science we have more people to discover new things to save
our planet and peoples .

The only thing that's good in church is the MUSIC ..Everyone SINGING .. ITS NICE Grin

So can we just have singing churches  Cheesy..
The black church all singing and HAPPY ..It's nice

But the again you get some black churches yes just like white churches WHO GO BONKERS..

No should just get rid of religion i can buy a karaoke machine ..

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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.


Christianity is life. Christianity:
1. Describes the source of life, God;
2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning;
3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning;
4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life;
5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us;
6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life;
7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like.

Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing.

In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible.

The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death.

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I love life and I agree with Buffer Overflow.  Christianity is an addiction. It poisons your mind.  Makes you a slave to its ideology.
It blames you and makes feel weak, it belittles people, it subjugates people, it discriminates, it is a mind poison on so many levels.

When (if) you free yourself from the shackles of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), you are truly free.  You can think for yourself and evaluate the world the way it is.

People who believe in Christianity are afraid of everything.  They believe in imaginary beings like devil and ghosts.  I are afraid to be alone in the dark or go to the cemetery at night.  Christianity clouds their judgement, it creates an invisible cloak over their mind.

Everything they do or think is in the context of the Christian ideology.  They see God (and/or Devil) in everything and everyone they interact with.  They are brainwashed.  There is no difference between Scientology and Christianity, IMHO.  Fundamentally, they work on the same premise.  You are broken and we are here to fix you, if you follow us and pay a small fee.


Slavery exists throughout the universe without Christianity and without anything we do or say. How does slavery exist? Can you literally, using your own two legs, jump to the moon? If you can, you are probably the only one. If you are not a slave to gravity, then you are a slave to something else, even if it is needing your own brain to stabilize a thinking mind within yourself.

So, true freedom amounts to being able to work harmoniously withing the universe, inside the bonds of your slavery, to allow yourself the most freedom and comfort as possible.

This is what Christianity does for you. Christianity asks you to love all people, to show this love, and it uses the laws of the Old Testament as the guide that shows you the actions you will do to express your love.

Will obeying the laws of the O.T. in the love of the N.T. be beneficial in your freedom? Absolutely, YES! Why? Because then peace-loving people around you will treat you well, because of the good you show them, because of following the laws and love suggestions of Christianity.

In addition, Christianity shows you how to be saved to eternal life, thereby freeing you from the deep bondage/slavery of death. And since it warns about rejecting God, warns about the lake of fire torment such rejection will bring, it frees you from the coming torment, as well, if you accept the freedom.

Pure Christianity is by far the best freedom around. The only time it is not freedom, is when the people who view it would rather have slavery. And even then it is freedom. Why? Because it allows all people the freedom to select slavery if they want.

Now, if that is poison to anyone, he/she has been warped by his/her own evil passions. Slavery is never freedom, but is almost always poison. Christianity offers freedom, so it is absolutely NOT slavery, or poison.

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An informative exchange. Very nicely said.

Here are some thoughts on the relationship between decentralization, knowledge, freedom and religion.


This post will explore the relationship between freedom and knowledge.

Knowledge and Power by George Gilder
https://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Power-Information-Capitalism-Revolutionizing/dp/1621570274
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The most manifest characteristic of human beings is their diversity. The freer an economy is, the more this human diversity of knowledge will be manifested. By contrast, political power originates in top-down processes—governments, monopolies, regulators, elite institutions, all attempting to quell human diversity and impose order. Thus power always seeks centralization.

Capitalism is not chiefly an incentive system but an information system. We continue with the recognition, explained by the most powerful science of the epoch, that information itself is best defined as surprise: by what we cannot predict rather than by what we can. The key to economic growth is not acquisition of things by the pursuit of monetary rewards but the expansion of wealth through learning and discovery. The economy grows not by manipulating greed and fear through bribes and punishments but by accumulating surprising knowledge through the conduct of the falsifiable experiments of free enterprises. Crucial to this learning process is the possibility of failure and bankruptcy. In this model, wealth is defined as knowledge, and growth is defined as learning.

Because the system is based more on ideas than on incentives, it is not a process changeable only over generations of Sisysphean effort. An economy is a noosphere (a mind-based system) and it can revive as fast as minds and policies can change.

That new economics—the information theory of capitalism—is already at work in disguise. Concealed behind an elaborate mathematical apparatus, sequestered by its creators in what is called information technology, the new theory drives the most powerful machines and networks of the era. Information theory treats human creations or communications as transmissions through a channel, whether a wire or the world, in the face of the power of noise, and gauges the outcomes by their news or surprise, defined as “entropy” and consummated as knowledge. Now it is ready to come out into the open and to transform economics as it has already transformed the world economy itself.

All information is surprise; only surprise qualifies as information. This is the fundamental axiom of information theory. Information is the change between what we knew before the transmission and what we know after it.

Let us imagine the lineaments of an economics of disorder, disequilibrium, and surprise that could explain and measure the contributions of entrepreneurs. Such an economics would begin with the Smithian mold of order and equilibrium. Smith himself spoke of property rights, free trade, sound currency, and modest taxation as crucial elements of an environment for prosperity. Smith was right: An arena of disorder, disequilibrium, chaos, and noise would drown the feats of creation that engender growth. The ultimate physical entropy envisaged as the heat death of the universe, in its total disorder, affords no room for invention or surprise. But entrepreneurial disorder is not chaos or mere noise. Entrepreneurial disorder is some combination of order and upheaval that might be termed “informative disorder.”

Shannon defined information in terms of digital bits and measured it by the concept of information entropy: unexpected or surprising bits...Shannon’s entropy is governed by a logarithmic equation nearly identical to the thermodynamic equation of Rudolf Clausius that describes physical entropy. But the parallels between the two entropies conceal several pitfalls that have ensnared many. Physical entropy is maximized when all the molecules in a physical system are at an equal temperature (and thus cannot yield any more energy). Shannon entropy is maximized when all the bits in a message are equally improbable (and thus cannot be further compressed without loss of
information). These two identical equations point to a deeper affinity that MIT physicist Seth Lloyd identifies as the foundation of all material reality—at the beginning was the entropic bit.
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The accomplishment of Information Theory was to create a rigorous mathematical discipline for the definition and measurement of the information in the message sent down the channel. Shannon entropy or surprisal defines and quantifies the information in a message. In close similarity with physical entropy, information entropy is always a positive number measured by minus the base two logarithm of its probability. Information in Shannon’s scheme is quantified in terms of a probability because Shannon interpreted the message as a selection or choice from a limited alphabet. Entropy is thus a measure of freedom of choice. In the simplest case of maximum entropy of equally probable elements, the uncertainty is merely the inverse of the number of elements or symbols.
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Linking innovation, surprise, and profit, learning and growth, Shannon entropy stands at the heart of the economics of information theory. Signaling the arrival of an invention or disruptive innovation is first its surprisal, then its yield beyond the interest rate—its profit, a further form of Shannon entropy. As a new item is absorbed by the market, however, its entropy declines until its margins converge with prevailing risk adjusted interest rates. The entrepreneur must move on to new surprises. The economics of entropy depict the process by which the entrepreneur translates his idea into a practical form from the realms of imaginative creation. In those visionary realms, entropy is essentially infinite and unconstrained, and thus irrelevant to economic models. But to make the imagined practical, the entrepreneur must make specific choices among existing resources and strategic possibilities. Entropy here signifies his freedom of choice.

As Shannon understood, the creation process itself escapes every logical and mathematical system. It springs not from secure knowledge but from falsifiable tests of commercial hypotheses. It is not an expression of past knowledge but of the fertility of consciousness, will, discipline, imagination, and art.

Knowledge is created by the dynamic interaction of consciousness over time. This process results in surprise (new information) which is the foundation of new knowledge. Entropy in this context is a measure of freedom, it is the freedom of choice. An information system with higher entropy allows for greater dynamic interaction of consciousness and thus greater knowledge formation. Freedom must be subject to the constraint of convergence. Some top-down order must be maintained to prevent destructive chaos aka noise that would otherwise destroy rather than create knowledge.

The amount of top-down control needed increases in the presence of increased noise. A primitive population may require the iron fist of a dictator whereas an educated one may thrive in a republic. However, power always seeks centralization. Thus the tendency of both of the dictatorship and the republic will be towards ever increasing centralization restricting freedom beyond that what is necessary and hobbling knowledge formation.

I posit that that the only model of top-down control that facilitates knowledge formation without inevitable progressive centralization is Ethical Monotheism. Uniformly adopted and voluntary followed it may be the only restraint on freedom that is necessary.

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