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August 11, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
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And another one today

http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/11/these-christians-just-realized-they-face-life-in-prison-for-killing-their-baby/



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Welch has posted about Child Protective Services, a distrust of doctors and religious beliefs on Facebook. He called doctors “priesthoods of the medical cult” and spoke in one video post about refusing to get his children vaccinated.

    “The righteous shall live by faith. It’s God who is sovereign over disease and those sorts of things and, of course, ultimately deaths,” he said.

God is “sovereign over disease,” says the man who saw an eye doctor for his glasses.
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August 21, 2018, 01:24:24 PM
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Man Yelled “Jesus is Coming!” Before Stabbing His 16-Month-Old Son to Death
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/20/man-yelled-jesus-is-coming-before-stabbing-his-16-month-old-son-to-death

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A Texas man reportedly yelled “Jesus is coming!” before stabbing his own 16-month-old son to death.

In what almost seems like an attempt to prove how dangerous religious ideas about the afterlife can be, the man reportedly beat and stuck a knife in his son on Sunday in the courtyard of an apartment complex. The local police captain, Jesse Hunter, said the boy died at the hospital.

    According to Hunter, witnesses told police that the man carried the child out of an apartment and yelled “Jesus is coming” before the attack.

    Dallas TV station KDFW reports that a neighbor watching from a second-floor balcony shot the suspect in the leg, ending the attack. Police say the neighbor will not face any charges.

A “good guy with a gun” tried to stop the attack, but it was too late, and the young boy is now dead… primarily because of religious beliefs that were clearly taken too seriously by this man.
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August 21, 2018, 06:25:08 PM
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As Karl Marx rightly said "religion is the opium of the masses".

I truly believe that religion is poison but since I believe that this post has an atheist undertone, I would not jump to conclusions. I believe that religion actually blinds people from the truth, hypnotises them and chain them. It justifies oppression and myriads of acts of wickedness. However, I believe there's some truth to religion, especially the kind that ultimately preaches love and virtuous living. And any school of thought saying that everything that exist today just came into being by themselves after a big explosion is just irrational!
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August 22, 2018, 01:23:30 PM
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the real problem is people can't understand metaphors. believers or unbelievers, all lost... Cry

I have always been curious who decides what words are meant literal and which metaphor... is there an official list, or is it up to each believer individually?

When I read Jesus say things like, "No man shall see the kingdom of heaven unless he be born again", literally this implies reincarnation... more of a buddhist belief than christian

Jesus says, "Sell all your possessions and give to the poor, then follow me" or something similar a dozen times in the bible... again, this is buddhist dogma, not christian

The more I study buddhism, the more I am certain that Jesus was a buddhist, and all this literal vs metaphor nonsense has misinterpreted his message to mean something completely different from what he actually said
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August 22, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
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the real problem is people can't understand metaphors. believers or unbelievers, all lost... Cry

I have always been curious who decides what words are meant literal and which metaphor... is there an official list, or is it up to each believer individually?

When I read Jesus say things like, "No man shall see the kingdom of heaven unless he be born again", literally this implies reincarnation... more of a buddhist belief than christian

Jesus says, "Sell all your possessions and give to the poor, then follow me" or something similar a dozen times in the bible... again, this is buddhist dogma, not christian

The more I study buddhism, the more I am certain that Jesus was a buddhist, and all this literal vs metaphor nonsense has misinterpreted his message to mean something completely different from what he actually said

It the language says, "The following is literal," odds are it is to be taken literally. If it says that the following is a parable, than the following might be a parable and not literal.

Read the rest: "Unless he is born of water and the Spirit." No implication of reincarnation there.

Following Jesus gives eternal life to the follower... in the resurrection. Buddhism offers nothing like that.

You seem to make it up as you go along.

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August 22, 2018, 03:47:41 PM
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the real problem is people can't understand metaphors. believers or unbelievers, all lost... Cry

I have always been curious who decides what words are meant literal and which metaphor... is there an official list, or is it up to each believer individually?

When I read Jesus say things like, "No man shall see the kingdom of heaven unless he be born again", literally this implies reincarnation... more of a buddhist belief than christian

Jesus says, "Sell all your possessions and give to the poor, then follow me" or something similar a dozen times in the bible... again, this is buddhist dogma, not christian

The more I study buddhism, the more I am certain that Jesus was a buddhist, and all this literal vs metaphor nonsense has misinterpreted his message to mean something completely different from what he actually said

It(sp?) the language says, "The following is literal," odds are it is to be taken literally. If it says that the following is a parable, than the following might be a parable and not literal.

Read the rest: "Unless he is born of water and the Spirit." No implication of reincarnation there.

Following Jesus gives eternal life to the follower... in the resurrection. Buddhism offers nothing like that.

You seem to make it up as you go along.

I'd love to see anywhere in the bible the words, "The following is literal"... who is making up what now?

As for Jesus speaking about reincarnation... where does it say "the following is a parable"?

I stick by my hypothesis that Jesus was a Buddhist.  Buddhists believe you have to be reborn before reaching nirvana, et al.  The first birth is literally called "Stream-Enterer", referring to a stream of water, almost word for word what you quoted from Jesus.  Your ignorance of buddhism does not mean Jesus didn't understand it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_enlightenment#Stream-enterer

Buddhism also offers eternal life.  How do you not view reincarnation as eternal life?  There are also several branches of buddhism, much like christianity, with various beliefs.

You seem to know as little about buddhism as you do about atheism, evolution or christianity
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August 31, 2018, 12:37:16 PM
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Man Uses Bible to Justify Decapitating His Girlfriend in Front of 3-Year-Old
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/30/man-uses-bible-to-justify-decapitating-his-girlfriend-in-front-of-3-year-old/

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A man charged with premeditated murder says he decapitated his wife in front of their three-year-old daughter (below) because she didn’t “repent.” He later used the Bible to justify his violent crime.

Timothy Paul Hernandez, a 32-year-old man from the state of Washington, was arrested after his parents came home from church and found the decapitated body of his girlfriend. The couple reportedly had a verbal argument the night before.

    They told investigators said Hernandez and his girlfriend were verbally arguing before going to bed that Saturday night. They left for church sometime between 9:30 and 10 a.m. and when they returned home, they found the woman dead…

    “Timothy advised that he had spoken with God, who told him to strike down his girlfriend … because she did not repent,” a detective wrote in charging documents. “Timothy stated that he struck her down, and caused for her head to be removed from her body.”

    Investigator said Hernandez quoted two Bible verses to them, including a passage from the Book of Revelation.

    “Each of the verses that were quoted had passages in them that spoke about women who did not follow God’s word, so God struck them down.”

Hernandez was charged with premeditated murder because he didn’t just have a mental health breakdown. He had a fight with this girlfriend the night before, and then chose to kill her the next day, while his parents were at church.

Before you jump the conclusion that mental illness played a role in this murder, however, you should listen to what Hernandez himself had to say about that theory:

    Hernandez told investigators he was not crazy, and stated that a crazy person would not tell the truth, investigators said.

    Detectives found a large butcher knife in the home’s sink, bloody clothing, and used a chemical to illuminate bloody footprints around the body that led into the kitchen to the sink where the knife was located. The victim had multiple stab wounds.

    Charging documents also give disturbing details about the 3-year-old observing the crime scene.

As horrific as this is, it seems neither unbelievable nor new. Even if religion played a role in the crime, the root causes for his violent outburst may go back to something even older than Christianity: jealousy and the desire to control a woman. The Bible was merely justification for what he did. Now it’s his only defense.
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August 31, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
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Man Uses Bible to Justify Decapitating His Girlfriend in Front of 3-Year-Old
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/30/man-uses-bible-to-justify-decapitating-his-girlfriend-in-front-of-3-year-old/

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A man charged with premeditated murder says he decapitated his wife in front of their three-year-old daughter (below) because she didn’t “repent.” He later used the Bible to justify his violent crime.

Timothy Paul Hernandez, a 32-year-old man from the state of Washington, was arrested after his parents came home from church and found the decapitated body of his girlfriend. The couple reportedly had a verbal argument the night before.

    They told investigators said Hernandez and his girlfriend were verbally arguing before going to bed that Saturday night. They left for church sometime between 9:30 and 10 a.m. and when they returned home, they found the woman dead…

    “Timothy advised that he had spoken with God, who told him to strike down his girlfriend … because she did not repent,” a detective wrote in charging documents. “Timothy stated that he struck her down, and caused for her head to be removed from her body.”

    Investigator said Hernandez quoted two Bible verses to them, including a passage from the Book of Revelation.

    “Each of the verses that were quoted had passages in them that spoke about women who did not follow God’s word, so God struck them down.”

Hernandez was charged with premeditated murder because he didn’t just have a mental health breakdown. He had a fight with this girlfriend the night before, and then chose to kill her the next day, while his parents were at church.

Before you jump the conclusion that mental illness played a role in this murder, however, you should listen to what Hernandez himself had to say about that theory:

    Hernandez told investigators he was not crazy, and stated that a crazy person would not tell the truth, investigators said.

    Detectives found a large butcher knife in the home’s sink, bloody clothing, and used a chemical to illuminate bloody footprints around the body that led into the kitchen to the sink where the knife was located. The victim had multiple stab wounds.

    Charging documents also give disturbing details about the 3-year-old observing the crime scene.

As horrific as this is, it seems neither unbelievable nor new. Even if religion played a role in the crime, the root causes for his violent outburst may go back to something even older than Christianity: jealousy and the desire to control a woman. The Bible was merely justification for what he did. Now it’s his only defense.

How in the world bitter are you? True Christianity is the only thing that gives people eternal life in joy. Why don't you want eternal life in joy?

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September 04, 2018, 12:25:51 AM
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Man Uses Bible to Justify Decapitating His Girlfriend in Front of 3-Year-Old
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/30/man-uses-bible-to-justify-decapitating-his-girlfriend-in-front-of-3-year-old/

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A man charged with premeditated murder says he decapitated his wife in front of their three-year-old daughter (below) because she didn’t “repent.” He later used the Bible to justify his violent crime.

Timothy Paul Hernandez, a 32-year-old man from the state of Washington, was arrested after his parents came home from church and found the decapitated body of his girlfriend. The couple reportedly had a verbal argument the night before.

    They told investigators said Hernandez and his girlfriend were verbally arguing before going to bed that Saturday night. They left for church sometime between 9:30 and 10 a.m. and when they returned home, they found the woman dead…

    “Timothy advised that he had spoken with God, who told him to strike down his girlfriend … because she did not repent,” a detective wrote in charging documents. “Timothy stated that he struck her down, and caused for her head to be removed from her body.”

    Investigator said Hernandez quoted two Bible verses to them, including a passage from the Book of Revelation.

    “Each of the verses that were quoted had passages in them that spoke about women who did not follow God’s word, so God struck them down.”

Hernandez was charged with premeditated murder because he didn’t just have a mental health breakdown. He had a fight with this girlfriend the night before, and then chose to kill her the next day, while his parents were at church.

Before you jump the conclusion that mental illness played a role in this murder, however, you should listen to what Hernandez himself had to say about that theory:

    Hernandez told investigators he was not crazy, and stated that a crazy person would not tell the truth, investigators said.

    Detectives found a large butcher knife in the home’s sink, bloody clothing, and used a chemical to illuminate bloody footprints around the body that led into the kitchen to the sink where the knife was located. The victim had multiple stab wounds.

    Charging documents also give disturbing details about the 3-year-old observing the crime scene.

As horrific as this is, it seems neither unbelievable nor new. Even if religion played a role in the crime, the root causes for his violent outburst may go back to something even older than Christianity: jealousy and the desire to control a woman. The Bible was merely justification for what he did. Now it’s his only defense.

How in the world bitter are you? True Christianity is the only thing that gives people eternal life in joy. Why don't you want eternal life in joy?

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It is not possible to live after you die.

Your Christian carrot stick is fake.
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September 04, 2018, 02:39:34 AM
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It is not possible to live after you die.

Your Christian carrot stick is fake.


How do you know that it is not possible to live after you die? Consider:

The only reason we know that life is possible at all is because it is here. We can't make it. If we come close in some kind of a lab, we don't have a clue how to start reproduction. Essentially, life is impossible. Evolution has been proven over and over, that it is impossible. But even if it were possible, we don't have the right theory for it, and we don't know what theory could show how life could be possible.

So, let me say it again. There is only one reason why we know that life is possible, and that is because it is here. That's it. Period.

Since impossible life happened once, why are you so sure it can't happen twice or more?

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September 04, 2018, 01:00:04 PM
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Christianity means following Christ but in this ages it is more to be called as a religion. And that religion integrates too many forms, beliefs, and rules that disform the true Christianity. By believing the religion, this became a poison.
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Christianity means following Christ but in this ages it is more to be called as a religion. And that religion integrates too many forms, beliefs, and rules that disform the true Christianity. By believing the religion, this became a poison.

But those who truly believe in Christ the right way, makes Christianity to be a sweet smelling perfume, and the way to eternal life.

Those others who are called Christians, or are called part of Christianity, are not! They are liars, or they are being lied about.

Christianity is not poison.

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September 04, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
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It is not possible to live after you die.

Your Christian carrot stick is fake.


How do you know that it is not possible to live after you die? Consider:

The only reason we know that life is possible at all is because it is here. We can't make it. If we come close in some kind of a lab, we don't have a clue how to start reproduction. Essentially, life is impossible. Evolution has been proven over and over, that it is impossible. But even if it were possible, we don't have the right theory for it, and we don't know what theory could show how life could be possible.

So, let me say it again. There is only one reason why we know that life is possible, and that is because it is here. That's it. Period.

Since impossible life happened once, why are you so sure it can't happen twice or more?

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When you are dead you are not alive. That is how.
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It is not possible to live after you die.

Your Christian carrot stick is fake.


How do you know that it is not possible to live after you die? Consider:

The only reason we know that life is possible at all is because it is here. We can't make it. If we come close in some kind of a lab, we don't have a clue how to start reproduction. Essentially, life is impossible. Evolution has been proven over and over, that it is impossible. But even if it were possible, we don't have the right theory for it, and we don't know what theory could show how life could be possible.

So, let me say it again. There is only one reason why we know that life is possible, and that is because it is here. That's it. Period.

Since impossible life happened once, why are you so sure it can't happen twice or more?

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When you are dead you are not alive. That is how.


Wow! Your insight amazes me... for a joker like you.

Life came into being the first time. We don't know how. We don't understand it.

There is no reason why it can't happen again. We don't understand how it can happen again, but we don't understand how it happened the first time. So, we don't know that it can't happen again.

Your density amazes me even more than your great insight.

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September 11, 2018, 02:35:19 PM
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Christian College Won’t Let Student Earn Last 6 Credits Because He’s Gay
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/christian-college-wont-let-student-earn-last-6-credits-because-hes-gay/

Sure, they take his money for over 3 years, but won't let him graduate because he's gay...

Don't they owe him a full refund now?

He should sue the shit out of that school for wasting 3 years of his time and money
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Christian College Won’t Let Student Earn Last 6 Credits Because He’s Gay
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/christian-college-wont-let-student-earn-last-6-credits-because-hes-gay/

Sure, they take his money for over 3 years, but won't let him graduate because he's gay...

Don't they owe him a full refund now?

He should sue the shit out of that school for wasting 3 years of his time and money

He owes them a fine. Why? Because if they knew he was or was going to be gay, they wouldn't have let him in, in the first place.

He is an embarrassment for being there. He has destroyed some of their good reputation by being there. He should have disclosed to them in the first place. Since he didn't, he damaged them by damaging their reputation. He owes them a great big fine for the damage.

His supposed loss in paying them for over 3 years isn't a loss. He received the training that he purchased. He made it to class, and the teacher taught him. Now let him pay for the damage he did.

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September 12, 2018, 12:06:15 PM
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Apparently the Mormons borrowed the Catholic playbook for pedophile priests...

Leaked Doc: Mormon Church Was “Reluctant” To Punish Elder Who Sexted with Minor
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/leaked-doc-mormon-church-was-reluctant-to-punish-elder-who-sexted-with-minor/

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Apparently the Mormons borrowed the Catholic playbook for pedophile priests...

Leaked Doc: Mormon Church Was “Reluctant” To Punish Elder Who Sexted with Minor
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/leaked-doc-mormon-church-was-reluctant-to-punish-elder-who-sexted-with-minor/



First Amendment. Freedom of religion. The church gets to punish according to their own religious laws. Keep the State out of religious affairs.

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Apparently the Mormons borrowed the Catholic playbook for pedophile priests...

Leaked Doc: Mormon Church Was “Reluctant” To Punish Elder Who Sexted with Minor
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/leaked-doc-mormon-church-was-reluctant-to-punish-elder-who-sexted-with-minor/



First Amendment. Freedom of religion. The church gets to punish according to their own religious laws. Keep the State out of religious affairs.

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Pedophilia is not a religion.
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Apparently the Mormons borrowed the Catholic playbook for pedophile priests...

Leaked Doc: Mormon Church Was “Reluctant” To Punish Elder Who Sexted with Minor
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/11/leaked-doc-mormon-church-was-reluctant-to-punish-elder-who-sexted-with-minor/



First Amendment. Freedom of religion. The church gets to punish according to their own religious laws. Keep the State out of religious affairs.

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Pedophilia is not a religion.

If it happened in religious circles, it is up to the church to do the judging and the punishment. It is also up to the secular government to stay out - 1st Amendment.

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