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Very long. Helium does not burn.
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February 08, 2013, 08:17:56 PM |
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I wonder how hard it would be for a terrorist to hit the blimp with a laser and take out the ordinance?
Hitting it at 10000 feet with a laser? You would need a very big laser to do any damage. Maybe then painting it with a laser and using a guided rocket. It just seems too easy to knock down such a high priced boondoggle. It might also get a good read on who did it. If you have a rocket that can go 10,000 feet and destroy the blimp you can do a lot more damage against other targets then the blimp itself. Nobody is going to shoot at it. I don't know, it just seems too big and easy a target. We spend so much on such expensive weapons that can be defeated with cheap technology and ingenuity. Don't get me wrong. I love balloons and dirigibles. I just hope we start making cool floating things for peaceful purposes before we run out of helium.
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February 08, 2013, 08:34:32 PM |
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I wonder how hard it would be for a terrorist to hit the blimp with a laser and take out the ordinance?
Hitting it at 10000 feet with a laser? You would need a very big laser to do any damage. Maybe then painting it with a laser and using a guided rocket. It just seems too easy to knock down such a high priced boondoggle. It might also get a good read on who did it. If you have a rocket that can go 10,000 feet and destroy the blimp you can do a lot more damage against other targets then the blimp itself. Nobody is going to shoot at it. What about buying a really high watt microwave, rigging it to work with the door open, wigging a focusing dish around it, and pointing it at the blimp? I think that may at least add a crapton of noise to their radar systems. Do it enough times without any follow-up attacks, in a sense like the boy who cried wolf (or like the boomerang in the movie "How to Steal a Million"), and they may end up thinking it's too much of a pain in the ass to keep going with. On the other hand, North Korea is claiming to have nukes, and I DO live within DC's blast radius...
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February 08, 2013, 10:45:23 PM |
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I wonder how hard it would be for a terrorist to hit the blimp with a laser and take out the ordinance?
Hitting it at 10000 feet with a laser? You would need a very big laser to do any damage. Maybe then painting it with a laser and using a guided rocket. It just seems too easy to knock down such a high priced boondoggle. It might also get a good read on who did it. If you have a rocket that can go 10,000 feet and destroy the blimp you can do a lot more damage against other targets then the blimp itself. Nobody is going to shoot at it. What about buying a really high watt microwave, rigging it to work with the door open, wigging a focusing dish around it, and pointing it at the blimp? I think that may at least add a crapton of noise to their radar systems. Do it enough times without any follow-up attacks, in a sense like the boy who cried wolf (or like the boomerang in the movie "How to Steal a Million"), and they may end up thinking it's too much of a pain in the ass to keep going with. On the other hand, North Korea is claiming to have nukes, and I DO live within DC's blast radius... You would be tracked pretty quickly! And all of your neighbors would drop their wifi connections. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 09, 2013, 12:25:10 AM |
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So I guess we are the other universe then ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20120222003411%2Ffringe%2Fimages%2Fe%2Fe9%2FBlimp.jpg&t=665&c=e2ZMipb1RM0JTA) Obviously, that's why shit is so fucked up.
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February 09, 2013, 12:52:47 AM |
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Is this what's next?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQTUekWw7QmqDsC17udJVWkdi1L-b9XWBcarGppOPu84aP85MqE&t=665&c=n2zi6ERTygRzIA)
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February 09, 2013, 12:45:12 PM |
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I know that if I was trillions in debt I would be buying 1/2 billion dollar blimps!
They would be better off flying a fighter CONSTANTLY vs this blimp if it is really 500 million. First of all they have the fighter and the pilots and they could get some training/flight time out of it. Second, the response time would be much better with a fighter in the air. The blimp might let us know something is coming but the fighter can both do the same job and potentially kill the target. I am sure they can sell the blimp claiming it has some detection edge, but the main thing is getting a radar in the air up high, and the radars on modern fighters are quite good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor#AvionicsFighter jets are loud, expensive, and need to be refueled. Its expensive to refuel them. Blimps can just chill.
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February 09, 2013, 01:06:47 PM |
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Until they explode in a fireball because of something sparking and setting off the gas that is keeping them there, it's a really fucking stupid idea, even for America.
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February 09, 2013, 03:26:59 PM |
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Until they explode in a fireball because of something sparking and setting off the gas that is keeping them there, it's a really fucking stupid idea, even for America.
Helium.
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February 09, 2013, 08:35:59 PM |
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Until they explode in a fireball because of something sparking and setting off the gas that is keeping them there, it's a really fucking stupid idea, even for America.
Blimps were used in WW2 and extremely successful. WW2 has garbage technology compared to today, I feel like the kinks will be gone. Its not as stupid as you think..
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February 10, 2013, 04:55:20 AM |
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I know that if I was trillions in debt I would be buying 1/2 billion dollar blimps!
They would be better off flying a fighter CONSTANTLY vs this blimp if it is really 500 million. First of all they have the fighter and the pilots and they could get some training/flight time out of it. Second, the response time would be much better with a fighter in the air. The blimp might let us know something is coming but the fighter can both do the same job and potentially kill the target. I am sure they can sell the blimp claiming it has some detection edge, but the main thing is getting a radar in the air up high, and the radars on modern fighters are quite good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor#AvionicsFighter jets are loud, expensive, and need to be refueled. Its expensive to refuel them. Blimps can just chill. Agreed but... You already have the jets. So which is better, $1,000,000,000 for two blimps or jet fuel. Even if you need LOTS of jet fuel for a BILLION dollars. And the blimps still leave you just a few more moments of notice against a cruise missile, while a jet in the air could actually destroy the cruise missile in time. A jet sitting on the ground will not make it in the air in time.
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February 10, 2013, 05:16:38 AM |
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Don't forget, the blimps aren't just blimps, they are basically R&D (research and development) for future blimp tech. Money may be well spent.
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February 10, 2013, 06:01:42 AM |
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I know that if I was trillions in debt I would be buying 1/2 billion dollar blimps!
They would be better off flying a fighter CONSTANTLY vs this blimp if it is really 500 million. First of all they have the fighter and the pilots and they could get some training/flight time out of it. Second, the response time would be much better with a fighter in the air. The blimp might let us know something is coming but the fighter can both do the same job and potentially kill the target. I am sure they can sell the blimp claiming it has some detection edge, but the main thing is getting a radar in the air up high, and the radars on modern fighters are quite good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor#AvionicsFighter jets are loud, expensive, and need to be refueled. Its expensive to refuel them. Blimps can just chill. Agreed but... You already have the jets. So which is better, $1,000,000,000 for two blimps or jet fuel. Even if you need LOTS of jet fuel for a BILLION dollars. And the blimps still leave you just a few more moments of notice against a cruise missile, while a jet in the air could actually destroy the cruise missile in time. A jet sitting on the ground will not make it in the air in time. The pair is just under 1/2 billion, according to the link in the OP. Your right, but does not negate my point. The price tag for the blimps is $450,000,000. An F22 uses 4000lbs of fuel an hour or about 5,840,000 gallons a year. At $6 a gallon it is still under $36 million. Having the F22 in the air is a great advantage if you are react quickly.
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February 10, 2013, 03:38:17 PM |
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Then they can use the energy to kill people with high powered laser beams (seems its only stuff like that gets research budgets these days :/ )
They tried that in "Real Genius": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG3g8Saea5E
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February 14, 2013, 12:40:49 AM |
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The Navy has a blimp tethered over Key West, FL to keep an eye on Cuba and to broadcast Radio Free Cuba.
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February 14, 2013, 05:40:32 PM |
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This! The Key West Blimp is probably more of the platform they're thinking of.
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February 15, 2013, 01:50:54 PM |
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if these things deploy drones, which they probably will. What we are basically talking about here are carriers from starcraft.
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 15, 2013, 03:41:05 PM |
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if these things deploy drones, which they probably will. What we are basically talking about here are carriers from starcraft.
And that would be really frigin cool.
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