Separate Computer for Bitcoin/Financial Information vs Personal?

[Kakmakr]

3 external hard drives?  can you explain how it works?  so not possible for your main computer to get virus? 

Most of these nasty viruses are installed on your hard drive. If you have different hard drives for different purposes, then you do not need to buy a whole new computer for every application. So in theory, if you want to watch porn, you swap out the <porn> hard drive with the <normal use> hard drive, and you set to go.

The docking station, just make it easier for you to "wipe" all information, when you want to start over. This is a example of one of these I used before. It has "offline" cloning, so you just press one button and install zero software. :
http://www.dx.com/p/unitek-y-3022-portable-usb3-0-to-dual-hdd-docking-station-black-red-219599#.V-i1F_Q7lCR

[Viyamore]

Do you go to a repair shop or computer technician for your laptop to check up whats the problem why is it won't works.i think thats the first thing you can do to know what is the problem .

I do same watch porno's on different sites clicking images and downloading it on my laptop .One day it won't works as i don't know what happens as i have antivirus then. I also have anti-virus which bought from U.S by my aunt .my laptop works well before that day .then i go to a comp. Technician for it to check up then go to other one their findings was the motherboard was suppost to collapse .Thats my laptop problem causing on overusing it .

because of malware? Well your laptop will be recovered it only needs to be reprogram i think downloading porn is nottge problem there.

Yes ,you may buy speed and space are important it needs by a laptop especially you are downloading many files big RAM is for gaming . I will suggest you can buy a second hand then a cheap one but pick a branded laptop not just a cheap one .

Also i use to turn off my anti-virus when downloading files .i believe anti virus are also who creates virus but then after doing all i frequently scan it and fix it if anti virus found a malware which is connected what i've downloaded ,cause sometimes unknown files to be downloaded as they said they found a malware by which that application needs to be downloaded.
I know it is advertisement ,but i suspected that it is also a virus then .

I know porn's have a viruses but if you queue or downloading files /unknown files make sure that it doesn't need to be done and run on your laptop. Most of it have a viruses .

I don't know kali linux but it is the trending for the most of users which keeps your files protected.

[Senor.Bla]

i wonder why you use a separate computer for porn? why not use it just for the financial stuff?
what is most important to you? i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down. for everything else you use the other computer, since not only porn can cause malware.

[Lauda]

many of these sites still need Flash player and lots of other exploitable plugin and they have a lot of ads, popups, popunder and redirects to any site that pays them to do that. so you can be redirected to a malicious site and be unaware of that because it was opened in a window below your main.

That isn't something that's specifically tied to such websites. I see that everywhere from time to time. With a proper browser setup, it's quite unlikely that something is going to happen (e.g. flash control, popup/ad block).

i wonder why you use a separate computer for porn?

There are many dangers lurking among those websites (e.g. weird kind of malware). I don't understand people that download it though, nor those that don't use incognito mode (among other things).

i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down.

That isn't convenient, nor does that setup imply security. In addition to that, using a slow laptop for all of that (especially if you usually have really good hardware) is a nightmare.  

[zend7]

As long as you have electrum setup there before you started to watch porn and have it with multisignature from your phone , then watch all the porn you want any virus cannot break your security of your bitcoins. And if your PC is compromised you can always restore the electrum wallet via it's seed. If you have multi signature wallet you are good to go.

Best is though to have a single PC for only bitcoin related task and another one for fun , like watching videos, playing games etc.

[Senor.Bla]

i wonder why you use a separate computer for porn?

There are many dangers lurking among those websites (e.g. weird kind of malware). I don't understand people that download it though, nor those that don't use incognito mode (among other things).

i get that there a danger involved on some of those sites. i get why he wants to separate his financial stuff from the porn, but i do not see why he wants to isolate his porn instead of his financial stuff. because other sites can be a possible danger to his financial stuff too. not only porn.

i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down.

That isn't convenient, nor does that setup imply security. In addition to that, using a slow laptop for all of that (especially if you usually have really good hardware) is a nightmare.  

security should not be about convenience. also why should it be inconvenient if i use a laptop only for my financial stuff? you can use your really good hardware to do everything else. no slowdowns. also why would a new laptop be slow? you can buy a new one that is surly fast enough for your financial need for under $300 and since you have really good hardware, i am sure you can afford that. using a VM would slow you down and one might consider it inconvenient, but this is just an opinion i guess. security wise i take linux over windows with some AV and other stuff every day. it improves you security a lot and is for basic need very easy to use.

[Wendigo]

I use predominantly web-based Bitcoin wallets on my home computer which is fairly secure. I trust NOD32 a lot and have been using it for many years without any issues. Also I have installed Mycelium on a wifi-enabled only tablet which I use while I am on the go for quick Bitcoin transactions. I have used also Copay on my Windows 10 phone. All in all your coins will be safe whichever method you decide to use for safekeeping them as long as you have taken precautions for the safety of your electronic devices.
Being too much paranoid about this doesn't help either  

[viking02]

3 external hard drives?  can you explain how it works?  so not possible for your main computer to get virus? 

Most of these nasty viruses are installed on your hard drive. If you have different hard drives for different purposes, then you do not need to buy a whole new computer for every application. So in theory, if you want to watch porn, you swap out the <porn> hard drive with the <normal use> hard drive, and you set to go.

The docking station, just make it easier for you to "wipe" all information, when you want to start over. This is a example of one of these I used before. It has "offline" cloning, so you just press one button and install zero software. :
http://www.dx.com/p/unitek-y-3022-portable-usb3-0-to-dual-hdd-docking-station-black-red-219599#.V-i1F_Q7lCR

Hi there.  I actually have an extra hard drive with me.  Its actually an ssd hard drive as well.  So you are telling me with my main computer that i do all my financial things such as bitcoin, bank login, email... i also play online poker as well which is as important as bitcoin.  With bank and email, i can log into my phone if i want so basically my main computer is for online poker , bitcoin, bank login and email. 


So when i want to surf porn, use the other hard drive?  Can you explain how this exactly works?  Because dont most laptops have 1 hard drive inside so you could only have 1 ssd or hard drive inside?  I mean you certainly are not going to remove it and then put another one in right?  You have to unscrew it etc so im sure u dont mean this?  Do you mean buying one of those hard drive enclosures that are 20 dollars and below where you put in a hard drive and connect it to a usb port in your computer?  But even doing this, wouldn't that mean you have 2 hard drives connected to your computer at once?  How do you turn off the main hard drive then?  So you are telling me that even if you get the nastiest virus/trojan on the other hard drive, there is 0 chance anything would happen to my other main hard drive?  But most importantly not my computer?  Because if there are keyloggers, it only affects the porn hard drive?

[viking02]

i wonder why you use a separate computer for porn? why not use it just for the financial stuff?
what is most important to you? i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down. for everything else you use the other computer, since not only porn can cause malware.

The main laptop is used for online poker, bitcoin, financial stuff.  I cannot play online poker on a cheap computer.


For porn, well i want a cheap computer specifically for porn.  I assume storage is the most important since i want to download a lot of it.  But the processor shouldn't be a big deal right?  But how slow is to slow?  The only web browsing i would use on it is to look at sites where i can download porn.  I mean i would stream as well on this computer.  But i assume ram isn't that big of a deal?  Basically i want a cheap laptop for all the porn etc.  My main laptop, i do online poker, bitcoin, bank login and documents and all those things.

[viking02]

Do you go to a repair shop or computer technician for your laptop to check up whats the problem why is it won't works.i think thats the first thing you can do to know what is the problem .

I do same watch porno's on different sites clicking images and downloading it on my laptop .One day it won't works as i don't know what happens as i have antivirus then. I also have anti-virus which bought from U.S by my aunt .my laptop works well before that day .then i go to a comp. Technician for it to check up then go to other one their findings was the motherboard was suppost to collapse .Thats my laptop problem causing on overusing it .

because of malware? Well your laptop will be recovered it only needs to be reprogram i think downloading porn is nottge problem there.

Yes ,you may buy speed and space are important it needs by a laptop especially you are downloading many files big RAM is for gaming . I will suggest you can buy a second hand then a cheap one but pick a branded laptop not just a cheap one .

Also i use to turn off my anti-virus when downloading files .i believe anti virus are also who creates virus but then after doing all i frequently scan it and fix it if anti virus found a malware which is connected what i've downloaded ,cause sometimes unknown files to be downloaded as they said they found a malware by which that application needs to be downloaded.
I know it is advertisement ,but i suspected that it is also a virus then .

I know porn's have a viruses but if you queue or downloading files /unknown files make sure that it doesn't need to be done and run on your laptop. Most of it have a viruses .

I don't know kali linux but it is the trending for the most of users which keeps your files protected.

The laptop doesn't work anymore.  Thats what im told.  Hard drive is fine as they tell me.

[viking02]

As long as you have electrum setup there before you started to watch porn and have it with multisignature from your phone , then watch all the porn you want any virus cannot break your security of your bitcoins. And if your PC is compromised you can always restore the electrum wallet via it's seed. If you have multi signature wallet you are good to go.

Best is though to have a single PC for only bitcoin related task and another one for fun , like watching videos, playing games etc.

Can you explain this?  So if electrum is set up on a computer that is clean.  Then with multisignature... can you explain this?  I do have a password where i cannot send bitcoin to unless i type in the password.  I was told this is my encrpytion.  Is this different from multisignature?


As for watching porn, I'm not talking about just streaming porn from websites.  Thus not only pornhub, xhamster and those big name sites.  But i mean the lesser known sites which look sketchy.  But most importantly, i want to download porn from users who post on some forums where those forums are not that mainstream.  For example one forum that is a porn forum where users upload lots of porn, i asked this and was told most videos in that forum doesn't have viruses and is rare.  But im talking about those forums where its a bit sketchy but i obviously wont download from a user who only has say 10 posts and created an account recently.  I only would download videos from posters who have hundreds of videos and long time users.  Does that make sense?  The streaming thing doesn't worry me that much if its a main porn site like pornhub, youporn, redtube etc but lesser known streaming sites and most importantly downing porn files from other users is a bit sketchy.  Thus i want a separate pc for all the porn download, browsing, pictures etc.  Such that if i get a virus there or whatnot, well its not that bad since it doesn't affect my my computer.  And also even if i have a virus, i probably use that computer still to download more porn etc unless the computer is way too slow to even use it...

[viking02]

i wonder why you use a separate computer for porn?

There are many dangers lurking among those websites (e.g. weird kind of malware). I don't understand people that download it though, nor those that don't use incognito mode (among other things).

i get that there a danger involved on some of those sites. i get why he wants to separate his financial stuff from the porn, but i do not see why he wants to isolate his porn instead of his financial stuff. because other sites can be a possible danger to his financial stuff too. not only porn.

i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down.

That isn't convenient, nor does that setup imply security. In addition to that, using a slow laptop for all of that (especially if you usually have really good hardware) is a nightmare.  

security should not be about convenience. also why should it be inconvenient if i use a laptop only for my financial stuff? you can use your really good hardware to do everything else. no slowdowns. also why would a new laptop be slow? you can buy a new one that is surly fast enough for your financial need for under $300 and since you have really good hardware, i am sure you can afford that. using a VM would slow you down and one might consider it inconvenient, but this is just an opinion i guess. security wise i take linux over windows with some AV and other stuff every day. it improves you security a lot and is for basic need very easy to use.

The thing is on my main computer, I make sure i do my best to not click on sketchy links.  Thus anything sketchy, i click on the porn computer even if its just streaming a tv show or sports. 

[bitbunnny]

Porn sites are one of the worst sources of any kind of malware you can think of. You can also click on different pop up windows that can infect you even without knowing and there are also phishy links. So if you also deal with sensitive financial and personal data it is much safer to use it on a different machine (mobile, tablet). You can have good antivirus and be careful but stil in some cases that won't help either so better keep it separated.

[viking02]

Another question i want to make in addition to those i replied.  Every laptop i bought online was new directly from a site or amazon.


Is there any risk in buying a brand new computer on ebay if its new and the user has pretty much close to 100 percent feedback?  Such that its unsafe to open electrum in that computer?

[Kprawn]

Another question i want to make in addition to those i replied.  Every laptop i bought online was new directly from a site or amazon.


Is there any risk in buying a brand new computer on ebay if its new and the user has pretty much close to 100 percent feedback?  Such that its unsafe to open electrum in that computer?

Yes, A while ago, someone figured out that the bundled software distributed with some notebooks were infected by malicious code, to spy

on people. I know this was one case --> http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html ... So yes, even new notebooks

pose a threat. The same goes for your router and other hardware... http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/malicious-cisco-router-backdoor-found-on-79-more-devices-25-in-the-us/?comments=1

[Cereberus]

Another question i want to make in addition to those i replied.  Every laptop i bought online was new directly from a site or amazon.


Is there any risk in buying a brand new computer on ebay if its new and the user has pretty much close to 100 percent feedback?  Such that its unsafe to open electrum in that computer?

You can never be sure about opening your bitcoin wallet there. For maximum security just download a Linux ISO (the most friendly is Linux Mint at www.Linuxmint.com) burn it in a DVD and format the laptop. Install this OS and you can do anything here, from watching porn, playing poker, using bitcoin and all kind of risky stuff in Windows and chances of you getting hacked here is extremely low compared to windows.

If you want to add multi signature to your wallet read the documentation of official website, is all explained there.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/ here is full DOC

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/multisig.html  here is what you need.

[calkob]

i have a PC at home which i use for downloading torrants and watch abit of porn every now and again.  i also have my bitcoin core running on that PC and an electrum wallet that i use every now and again.  been using it for a year now and no problem.  downloading games might be different due to the amount of files needed, usually i will check what type of files i am downloading for like movies and stuff usually only 1 file.

[gentlemand]

I've got computers pouring out of my arse and I do indeed use a separate laptop for anything crypto related. It looks like shit and has had the keyboard removed but it also has a brand new HDD and has been 100% reliable for many years.

You can get a perfectly good machine for $50 off Ebay these days so it's something worth considering if you're not A1 security wise.

[airsounds]

im fairly paranoid about my coins as well.  i use a nano ledger, im about to get a trezor, i also have 2 cpu (one for btc business), and 2 phones (one for btc business ,i use 2fa alot).  one cpu and phone i never download anything on it  . the other ones is for entainment and downloads, and porn  ,i gotta catch up on my porn watching . ive been pretty heavy into btc this past 2 years , the btc life stole alot of my porn time.

i think yu should be good, you shouldnt be worried about it or if you are you should seek for another ways to save it

[pooya87]

Another question i want to make in addition to those i replied.  Every laptop i bought online was new directly from a site or amazon.
Is there any risk in buying a brand new computer on ebay if its new and the user has pretty much close to 100 percent feedback?  Such that its unsafe to open electrum in that computer?

even microsoft is spying on their users with newer versios of Windows. read online more about privacy hazards of windows 10 and the ways to remove their "spyware"

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i would imagine money. so why not buy a small laptop around $200-$300 should be enough. run linux on it and only use it for your coins, wallets and other financial stuff. the other time it can remain offline and shut down.

That isn't convenient, nor does that setup imply security. In addition to that, using a slow laptop for all of that (especially if you usually have really good hardware) is a nightmare. 

security should not be about convenience. also why should it be inconvenient if i use a laptop only for my financial stuff? you can use your really good hardware to do everything else. no slowdowns. also why would a new laptop be slow? you can buy a new one that is surly fast enough for your financial need for under $300 and since you have really good hardware, i am sure you can afford that. using a VM would slow you down and one might consider it inconvenient, but this is just an opinion i guess. security wise i take linux over windows with some AV and other stuff every day. it improves you security a lot and is for basic need very easy to use.
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if you are willing to pay up to $300 for just a laptop to have your "financial stuff" on it why not just pay a lot less like around $100 for a Trezor wallet or even less for some of other hardware wallets or even a great deal less for just a USB Flash Disk to install a linux and Electrum on it and make an offline wallet for yourself! .
that is much safer options!