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June 26, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
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Ive read through the thread now and am a bit gutted that my electricity is so expensive, combined with eth getting a lot harder to mine now or else i would have liked to have built a decent rig like this. If something new ends up coming out that i can justify splashing out on that many gpus then i might still but doesn't look like there's anything on the horizon.

what are you paying for power ? I pay .15 cents per watt in summer around .09 in winter and its still quite profitable to mine as long as eth is above $6 usd

I predict with this latest DAO fiasco and how the miners saved the value of eth by voting yes on the soft fork the Eth team will really look hard at expanding the mining period at least another year till they get tons of DAPPs out there
to test and validate that the platform can be fully trusted.

So don't expect mining to end for at least 18-24 months.  Plus the added inflation is helpful since it dilutes the premine a bit.

if POW is extended, investing ETH mining will be worthwhile.

But, you will need to run a lot of rigs to fully maximize your rewards.

RX480/470s are really good miners if it can hit the 20MHs-ish hash with 100watts or under per GPU, and your electricity is cheap.

right now if your power is 15 cents  per kwatt you can still be okay.

this will move towards needing 8 cents.  basically because with btc you kind of need 8 cent or less.

I don't see eth coin staying 2x better then btc on the power level from now on.

I should do a caveat  btc has a ½ ing due very soon  so that can muck up all calculations for profit of both coins.

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June 26, 2016, 10:30:11 PM
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For the ones with cheap electricity , what is the best MHs per $ gpu today ?

What is your electricity price?
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June 27, 2016, 12:18:21 AM
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For the ones with cheap electricity , what is the best MHs per $ gpu today ?

well I do not understand your question.

since you ask today the 26th of june  and not the 29th of June

right now  you can find a r9 390 that will do 28 to 30mh  costing 250 after rebate


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150729&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=r9_390-_-14-150-729-_-Product


I owned this card it was a good card. it will use 260 watts to get the 30mh


in 3 days  you may be able to get a rx 480 that does 24mh for 239 usd  using 100 watts

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June 27, 2016, 01:02:45 AM
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in 3 days  you may be able to get a rx 480 that does 24mh for 239 usd  using 100 watts

So it's worth getting the larger memory version?  Better resale, or better hashing performance?  That is the question I'm trying to answer...
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in 3 days  you may be able to get a rx 480 that does 24mh for 239 usd  using 100 watts

So it's worth getting the larger memory version?  Better resale, or better hashing performance?  That is the question I'm trying to answer...

better resale value & 8gb is good for gamers, in my opinion.

also, the R9-390 8gb has been rock solid in ETH mining with that plenty of on board memory.

I would go for the 480/8gb for this same reasons, you wont have any DAG size issues with that many GB and also when you resale it later, gamers loves the 8gb because they can run more memory intensive games, surely will command extra after sale premium.

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June 27, 2016, 01:26:48 AM
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in 3 days  you may be able to get a rx 480 that does 24mh for 239 usd  using 100 watts

So it's worth getting the larger memory version?  Better resale, or better hashing performance?  That is the question I'm trying to answer...

better resale value & 8gb is good for gamers, in my opinion.

also, the R9-390 8gb has been rock solid in ETH mining with that plenty of on board memory.

I would go for the 480/8gb for this same reasons, you wont have any DAG size issues with that many GB and also when you resale it later, gamers loves the 8gb because they can run more memory intensive games, surely will command extra after sale premium.


So Ubuntu 14.04 is the OS of choice?  Which client?  Pool? Solo? 

Sorry for all the questions... I'm trying to get my act together before Wednesday...
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June 27, 2016, 01:40:46 AM
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in 3 days  you may be able to get a rx 480 that does 24mh for 239 usd  using 100 watts

So it's worth getting the larger memory version?  Better resale, or better hashing performance?  That is the question I'm trying to answer...

better resale value & 8gb is good for gamers, in my opinion.

also, the R9-390 8gb has been rock solid in ETH mining with that plenty of on board memory.

I would go for the 480/8gb for this same reasons, you wont have any DAG size issues with that many GB and also when you resale it later, gamers loves the 8gb because they can run more memory intensive games, surely will command extra after sale premium.


So Ubuntu 14.04 is the OS of choice?  Which client?  Pool? Solo?  

Sorry for all the questions... I'm trying to get my act together before Wednesday...

i think OS and miner app is a personal choice -- whatever works for you and easiest to manage.

personally, i use all AMD based cards only for ETH mining.

I choose Win8.1 for ease of management, lower learning curve and up to date AMD driver support.

I am a big fan of Claymore's Dual Miner, rich features and developer is active on his thread.

I mine on ethpool.org and failover pool is ethermine.org (after trying all the pools, i will stick on these 2, good support from operator and have straight forward no nonsense reward system)

I was on solo mining before and on dwarfpool too, with qtminer, but after much investigating and talking to forum members, I finally switched to CDM and use ethpool and ethermine for more than 4 months now. I have 5 rigs x MSI R-390 (5 x GPU) rigs, each pushing 150MHs, total 750MHs. I have also 2 x 6 GPU Sapphire Nanos using Heliox rom mods, pushing 175MHs with much lower power consumption. Total hash 1.1GHs. I am more than halfway into ROI and I think mining ETH is profitable.

Note: I have also placed an order for 480s, hopefully reaching my doorsteps soon. Like what philip said, lower watts with decent hash and cheaper than current proven GPUs => more profits & quicker ROI - no brainer.


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June 27, 2016, 03:11:23 AM
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Okay I have 8 auto notify gpus on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818&Tpk=rx%20480&ignorear=1

   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406L PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 RX480M8BFA6 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
MSI Radeon RX 480 8G
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
ASUS Radeon RX 480 RX480-8G Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 GV-RX480D5-8GD-B PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 RX-480M8BBA6 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406-4GL GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
PowerColor Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-M3DH PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016

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Okay I have 8 auto notify gpus on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818&Tpk=rx%20480&ignorear=1

   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406L PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 RX480M8BFA6 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
MSI Radeon RX 480 8G
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
ASUS Radeon RX 480 RX480-8G Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 GV-RX480D5-8GD-B PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 RX-480M8BBA6 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406-4GL GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
PowerColor Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-M3DH PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016

What sucks for the east coast is that Newegg is based on the west coast.  I know they have warehouses everywhere, but they'll probably go on say midnight Pacific time and will probably be sold out before I wake up.

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June 27, 2016, 03:27:10 AM
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Okay I have 8 auto notify gpus on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818&Tpk=rx%20480&ignorear=1

   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406L PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 RX480M8BFA6 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
MSI Radeon RX 480 8G
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
ASUS Radeon RX 480 RX480-8G Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 GV-RX480D5-8GD-B PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
XFX Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 RX-480M8BBA6 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 100406-4GL GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Out of Stock   Requested: 6/26/2016
   
PowerColor Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-M3DH PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card
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What sucks for the east coast is that Newegg is based on the west coast.  I know they have warehouses everywhere, but they'll probably go on say midnight Pacific time and will probably be sold out before I wake up.

yeah but  you still have the other cards. 

I could end up  staying cardless.. So far  No reply from my provantage guy.

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i think OS and miner app is a personal choice -- whatever works for you and easiest to manage.

personally, i use all AMD based cards only for ETH mining.

I choose Win8.1 for ease of management, lower learning curve and up to date AMD driver support.


 Win 8. Gag. DEFINITELY a personal choice - if I have to use a currently-available Windows, I use 7 - 8.x UI was a nightmare I never did figure out how to use AT ALL, and 10 looks to be more of the same. Worst learning curve I've ever suffered through from a Micro$loth product, as I never did figure out HOW to use it at ALL.

 My "Big Box" came pre-installed with 8.something, it SUPPOSEDLY had mining software pre-installed on it, but it ended up taking me 5 HOURS less time to do a "from scratch" Ubuntu 14.04 / XFCE install on it once I gave up on 8 than I WASTED trying to figure out 8 *AND* I never did figure out if the mining software was actually on the machine.

 It says a lot that Micro$loth has already pushed on past 8, and that it looks like they will probably drop support for it BEFORE they drop Win7 support (same thing happened with XP (and 2K IIRC) vs. Vista, or ME vs 98SE).
 7 is at least usable, abet it's still a PITA at times - and it gets AT LEAST as good of driver support as anything "more recent".

 With that said, almost ALL of my mining is on Ubuntu 14.04 systems - the remainder are "gaming" systems that I mine on when I'm not actively gaming on them.
 I DO use XFCE instead of that PITA "Unity" UI though - would go with XUbuntu 14.04 instead if I could ever find a legitimate link to download that from, instead of them pushing their "BREAKS DRIVERS" 16.04 version and having NO link I can find anywhere to any older version.
 The Ubuntu folks are smarter about that, easy to find THEIR links to older versions that are still USABLE for mining.

 I do like ethmine.org for a pool - nice transparent interface, good reliability, decent stats website, and multiple pool URLs for fallover.
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June 27, 2016, 11:42:20 AM
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yeah but  you still have the other cards. 
I could end up  staying cardless.. So far  No reply from my provantage guy.

Does Newegg.com still accept BTC?  That would be a reason to try and use them.  As in... have you ordered something within the last 6 months from them?
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yeah but  you still have the other cards. 
I could end up  staying cardless.. So far  No reply from my provantage guy.

Does Newegg.com still accept BTC?  That would be a reason to try and use them.  As in... have you ordered something within the last 6 months from them?

Yes they still accept Bitcoin as does Tiger Direct I believe.

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i think OS and miner app is a personal choice -- whatever works for you and easiest to manage.

personally, i use all AMD based cards only for ETH mining.

I choose Win8.1 for ease of management, lower learning curve and up to date AMD driver support.


 Win 8. Gag. DEFINITELY a personal choice - if I have to use a currently-available Windows, I use 7 - 8.x UI was a nightmare I never did figure out how to use AT ALL, and 10 looks to be more of the same. Worst learning curve I've ever suffered through from a Micro$loth product, as I never did figure out HOW to use it at ALL.

 My "Big Box" came pre-installed with 8.something, it SUPPOSEDLY had mining software pre-installed on it, but it ended up taking me 5 HOURS less time to do a "from scratch" Ubuntu 14.04 / XFCE install on it once I gave up on 8 than I WASTED trying to figure out 8 *AND* I never did figure out if the mining software was actually on the machine.

 It says a lot that Micro$loth has already pushed on past 8, and that it looks like they will probably drop support for it BEFORE they drop Win7 support (same thing happened with XP (and 2K IIRC) vs. Vista, or ME vs 98SE).
 7 is at least usable, abet it's still a PITA at times - and it gets AT LEAST as good of driver support as anything "more recent".

 With that said, almost ALL of my mining is on Ubuntu 14.04 systems - the remainder are "gaming" systems that I mine on when I'm not actively gaming on them.
 I DO use XFCE instead of that PITA "Unity" UI though - would go with XUbuntu 14.04 instead if I could ever find a legitimate link to download that from, instead of them pushing their "BREAKS DRIVERS" 16.04 version and having NO link I can find anywhere to any older version.
 The Ubuntu folks are smarter about that, easy to find THEIR links to older versions that are still USABLE for mining.

 I do like ethmine.org for a pool - nice transparent interface, good reliability, decent stats website, and multiple pool URLs for fallover.


My current desktop is Mac OSX and Mint 17, I use both platforms heavily on daily basis. Like you, I stopped looking at MS since useless Vista years ago.

But for mining, Claymore Dual Miner runs faster on Windows platform (compared to its Linux version) and my first build was on Windows 7 then 8.1, quite easy deployment actually, plus the driver support & multi GPU support are current. And the utilities for overclocking run well under Windows platform.

I find Windows 10 quite fun and zippy actually but it has a lot of "spyware" and so I will probably use it only sparingly....

I have one old PC with quad-core CPU running W10 quite well and stable, and it currently exclusively runs proxy for ETH solo mining, latest geth and bitcoin nodes - on hindsight, I will probably move them to Ubuntu soon because lately I see Windows 10 reboots and updates itself without any warning, and it also deletes programs automatically if it doesn't like it.

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i think OS and miner app is a personal choice -- whatever works for you and easiest to manage.

personally, i use all AMD based cards only for ETH mining.

I choose Win8.1 for ease of management, lower learning curve and up to date AMD driver support.


 Win 8. Gag. DEFINITELY a personal choice - if I have to use a currently-available Windows, I use 7 - 8.x UI was a nightmare I never did figure out how to use AT ALL, and 10 looks to be more of the same. Worst learning curve I've ever suffered through from a Micro$loth product, as I never did figure out HOW to use it at ALL.

 My "Big Box" came pre-installed with 8.something, it SUPPOSEDLY had mining software pre-installed on it, but it ended up taking me 5 HOURS less time to do a "from scratch" Ubuntu 14.04 / XFCE install on it once I gave up on 8 than I WASTED trying to figure out 8 *AND* I never did figure out if the mining software was actually on the machine.

 It says a lot that Micro$loth has already pushed on past 8, and that it looks like they will probably drop support for it BEFORE they drop Win7 support (same thing happened with XP (and 2K IIRC) vs. Vista, or ME vs 98SE).
 7 is at least usable, abet it's still a PITA at times - and it gets AT LEAST as good of driver support as anything "more recent".

 With that said, almost ALL of my mining is on Ubuntu 14.04 systems - the remainder are "gaming" systems that I mine on when I'm not actively gaming on them.
 I DO use XFCE instead of that PITA "Unity" UI though - would go with XUbuntu 14.04 instead if I could ever find a legitimate link to download that from, instead of them pushing their "BREAKS DRIVERS" 16.04 version and having NO link I can find anywhere to any older version.
 The Ubuntu folks are smarter about that, easy to find THEIR links to older versions that are still USABLE for mining.

 I do like ethmine.org for a pool - nice transparent interface, good reliability, decent stats website, and multiple pool URLs for fallover.


My current desktop is Mac OSX and Mint 17, I use both platforms heavily on daily basis. Like you, I stopped looking at MS since useless Vista years ago.

But for mining, Claymore Dual Miner runs faster on Windows platform (compared to its Linux version) and my first build was on Windows 7 then 8.1, quite easy deployment actually, plus the driver support & multi GPU support are current. And the utilities for overclocking run well under Windows platform.

I find Windows 10 quite fun and zippy actually but it has a lot of "spyware" and so I will probably use it only sparingly....

I have one old PC with quad-core CPU running W10 quite well and stable, and it currently exclusively runs proxy for ETH solo mining, latest geth and bitcoin nodes - on hindsight, I will probably move them to Ubuntu soon because lately I see Windows 10 reboots and updates itself without any warning, and it also deletes programs automatically if it doesn't like it.

I have no windows 10 for the bolded reason above all eth coin is on windows 7.

and I have a pc on linux  that is really good I just need the time to sit and learn it better.

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June 28, 2016, 10:10:35 PM
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Sent a follow-up email on the bulk purchase of rx 480 cards no reply as of yet.

have all eight  auto notify marked from newegg

preordered 2 cards from bhphoto

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ETH is going down - putting the mining profitability under the risk
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one more day till the rx 480s come on sale.. newegg updated there section to include the rx 400 series.. says "coming soon"
at least you get to see some of the options..

edit.. just found this

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/4pehis/someone_spotted_rx_480_prices_on_newegg/

think im going for the 249.99 XFX version with the backplate.
im guessing that one will sell out fast.
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June 29, 2016, 01:12:53 AM
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ETH is going down - putting the mining profitability under the risk

Perhaps this is in regards to the softfork that is due to pass in about 2 days, a change causes uncertainty in the market.  I expect the soft fork to be positive for the market eventually though as it proves to people how they can secure large amounts of money from hackers.

Edit: Just checked and the softfork is not passing currently.
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one more day till the rx 480s come on sale.. newegg updated there section to include the rx 400 series.. says "coming soon"
at least you get to see some of the options..

edit.. just found this

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/4pehis/someone_spotted_rx_480_prices_on_newegg/

think im going for the 249.99 XFX version with the backplate.
im guessing that one will sell out fast.

Yup prices listed on the video card page now too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818

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