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December 14, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
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Anyone managed to take the settings further with even better results / esp on linux?

 Probably card dependent, and seems to at least in part be mining software dependent.

 It DOES look like the best efficiency point on EBWF is at 104 watts not 106, but it's so close it could be an artifact of measurement limits.

 I tried pushing core and memory harder on one of my EVGA SC cards, but stability went bad very quickly above the +200 core and +700 memory settings (which was an unreported part of my original testing).
 That however might vary with the specific card and probably with the model of GPU.


 I'm not waiting, as I'm not convinced that the Volta versions of the 10xx series cards will be a LOT more efficient.
 10% probably, 20% maybe, 30% I'd bet against - we're still on the same process node, just "process improvements" and perhaps some additional minor optimisations to the designs are all we're likely to see - think of "RX 4xx vs RX 5xx" level changes being the most likely.

 Hint - "12nm" isn't a new node, it's enhancements to a current 16nm node process with a "new name" as strictly an ADVERTISING point.


 Samsung does seem to have some VERY small quantity of production happening on 10nm - but strictly for low-power devices like their smartphones at this point, and they're eating ALL of the output so far.
 Intel is supposed to FINALLY be shipping their first 10nm products next year - but the date keeps slipping.....

 Manufacturing efficiency for both is probably going to be VERY poor on anything they manage to ship at 10nm next year - it takes TIME to dial a new process in, and it seems to take longer every time a legitimate "shrink" happens TO get the new process dialed in.

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December 14, 2017, 09:53:52 PM
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Anyone managed to take the settings further with even better results / esp on linux?

 Probably card dependent, and seems to at least in part be mining software dependent.

 It DOES look like the best efficiency point on EBWF is at 104 watts not 106, but it's so close it could be an artifact of measurement limits.

 I tried pushing core and memory harder on one of my EVGA SC cards, but stability went bad very quickly above the +200 core and +700 memory settings (which was an unreported part of my original testing).
 That however might vary with the specific card and probably with the model of GPU.


 I'm not waiting, as I'm not convinced that the Volta versions of the 10xx series cards will be a LOT more efficient.
 10% probably, 20% maybe, 30% I'd bet against - we're still on the same process node, just "process improvements" and perhaps some additional minor optimisations to the designs are all we're likely to see - think of "RX 4xx vs RX 5xx" level changes being the most likely.

 Hint - "12nm" isn't a new node, it's enhancements to a current 16nm node process with a "new name" as strictly an ADVERTISING point.


 Samsung does seem to have some VERY small quantity of production happening on 10nm - but strictly for low-power devices like their smartphones at this point, and they're eating ALL of the output so far.
 Intel is supposed to FINALLY be shipping their first 10nm products next year - but the date keeps slipping.....

 Manufacturing efficiency for both is probably going to be VERY poor on anything they manage to ship at 10nm next year - it takes TIME to dial a new process in, and it seems to take longer every time a legitimate "shrink" happens TO get the new process dialed in.



To be honest I wouldn’t be sad if the Volta cards dont bring a huge jump in performance and efficiency as this would mean that the 10xx series remains relvant for another 2 years. Nobody with 15-20 cards plus will replace all of them with the new generation right away  as it would be super pricy.

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December 14, 2017, 11:33:49 PM
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Hello no they wont.  I have 60 6-7 card Nvidia 1070 / 1070ti rigs.  I'm not moving for a long time.
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December 15, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
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Okay @VoskCoin my wife was starting to hate you until I showed her the $100 every 2 days coming in!!!

I love your videos and appreciate you guiding the novice miner like me through the confusing world of alt coin madness.

I am now off to build a 8 x 1070TI SC rig. First 2 cards, 1600W T2 and Frame have been ordered!

This will compliment my 2  - 9 x 1060 3GB rigs and 1 x 8 1080 rig most likely I will be out of power taps in my garage!! Smiley

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December 15, 2017, 01:09:02 AM
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After following your videos and doing a lot of research I've invested in a beginner 6 card 1070 ti SC rig. Mainly due to high electricity costs. I'm looking forward to building the rig! Thanks for the great content.
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December 15, 2017, 11:45:28 AM
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Does it matter what brand?
Local seller has gigabyte 1070ti gaming.

Btw, great thread as far as this gpu goes. Can anyone share some 1070ti vs vega 56 thoughts?
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December 15, 2017, 06:49:43 PM
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Does it matter what brand?
Local seller has gigabyte 1070ti gaming.

Btw, great thread as far as this gpu goes. Can anyone share some 1070ti vs vega 56 thoughts?

I have been using the ASUS Strix brand and am very happy with the results. Below are two 6xGPU rigs. "Miner" is 6xAsus Strix GTX 1080s (5 are A8G and 1 is 08G) and "Miner1070TI" is 6xAsus Strix GTX 1070Tis (all are A8G). I have been able to get my 1070Tis running neck and neck with my 1080s. They use 20-25 less watts per card and run 7-9C cooler.


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Today at 08:23:42 PM
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Does it matter what brand?
Local seller has gigabyte 1070ti gaming.

Btw, great thread as far as this gpu goes. Can anyone share some 1070ti vs vega 56 thoughts?

 I refuse to buy anything else Gigabyte other than POSSIBLY Aorus models, due to the junk fans they use.
 That SPECIFICALLY includes their "gaming" models.

 Anything that uses ball-bearing fans should be fine.


 Vega 56 right now, IF you can find them for anywhere near MSRP, are more profitable per $ due to their massive ability on Monero - but are a MUCH bigger nightmare to get set up and running at max hashrate, AND require the use of Windows 10 to do so at this time.
 However, at the current GOUGE pricing when you can find the cards (OR the 64) at all, they're at best a tossup with a 1070 ti rig on return for dollar invested, but a little better on return per watt used at current relative profitability levels for the cards IF both are run at efficient settings.
 
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