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Author Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 6591493 times)
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September 11, 2019, 04:31:27 PM
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Bumping this. Still need a solution.

Hi everyone. I need some help regarding mining with P106.

Rig specs:
- 7x Zotac P106, total sightly below 170 Mh/s
- Windows 7 64-bit
- nVidia driver version 382.53
- Claymore miner version 11.0 (any version newer than this will always crash for me!)
- MSI Afterburner version 4.4.2
- Virtual memory sufficiently high

Current situation:
- Been running this setup for past ~2 years with very few issues
- I've paid thousands of USD in fees to Claymore since the beginning
- Happy with performance, consistency and stability
- It's working fine right now

Problem:
- I am being forced to abandon v11.0 and install v15.0 once DAG #299 comes out
- I have tested the newer clients including v15.0, but they always crash to desktop immediately after detecting the GPUs
- This doesn't happen with v10 or v11
- Updating nVidia drivers to latest version / CUDA version makes no difference
- Phoenix miner is even worse for me (individual GPUs crash very frequently)

Anyone with similar experience / solution? Your comments will be hugely appreciated. Thanks!

Windows 7 goes EOL in a few months... Maybe its time to move to Win10?
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September 11, 2019, 04:57:51 PM
Last edit: September 13, 2019, 06:46:43 AM by bategojko74
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HBM ? 5700 have GDDR6 memory.
Quote from Martin - HWiNFO Author about GPU HBM temperature:  'I just clarified this with AMD and the situation is following.
This value on Navi GPUs is the memory temperature, but it's not the case temperature (T_case) that can be measured on the surface of the chip. It's the junction temperature (Tj) provided by the memory sensor.
Tj is always higher and the difference seen from Tcase can be up-to 18 C (according to measurements done by AMD). The maximum value of Tj here is 105 C.
So users that were concerned about seeing too high temperatures here should not worry about elevated values and not treats this as the surface temperature (which has a limit of 95 C).
I will adjust this value in the next build of HWiNFO so it provides correct description.'

I saw that site/link too when I did some searching about. So high temps are probably ok, but 90C+ still seems pretty high even if Tj Max is 105 C. However, there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it... Changing fan speeds, etc. doesn't lower the temp. It shoots up over 80C pretty much as soon as the miner starts. I guess the only thing would be to reduce mining intensity.

That being said, the miner ran all night (8 hours) without a hiccup or throttling. So as long as the temps aren't going to kill the mem long term, maybe they can handle it.
you can control GPU HBM temperature indirectly by passing very low -tt such as -tt 54 or -tt 53 and -fanmin 54 for an instance.

Tried those. Fans spin faster, core comes down a few deg, mem comes down a couple deg, but still 90C. Also tried -ethi 2, HBM temp showed 84C, but obviously speed was reduced too... 45 and 47Mh/s

So, perhaps it's a design flaw with the Sapphire Pulse heat sink/cooler.
Try phoenix miner with the following settings: : -ethi 8 -tt 54  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
I make 52.65MH/s with 93 watts powerdraw and gpu hbm temperature 70 degree C. You can try with higher -tt to decrease the fan speed. 54 works for sure and is too safe.
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September 11, 2019, 08:27:58 PM
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Bumping this. Still need a solution.

Hi everyone. I need some help regarding mining with P106.

Rig specs:
- 7x Zotac P106, total sightly below 170 Mh/s
- Windows 7 64-bit
- nVidia driver version 382.53
- Claymore miner version 11.0 (any version newer than this will always crash for me!)
- MSI Afterburner version 4.4.2
- Virtual memory sufficiently high

Current situation:
- Been running this setup for past ~2 years with very few issues
- I've paid thousands of USD in fees to Claymore since the beginning
- Happy with performance, consistency and stability
- It's working fine right now

Problem:
- I am being forced to abandon v11.0 and install v15.0 once DAG #299 comes out
- I have tested the newer clients including v15.0, but they always crash to desktop immediately after detecting the GPUs
- This doesn't happen with v10 or v11
- Updating nVidia drivers to latest version / CUDA version makes no difference
- Phoenix miner is even worse for me (individual GPUs crash very frequently)

Anyone with similar experience / solution? Your comments will be hugely appreciated. Thanks!

How much actual RAM do you have in your system? I've had this issue before years ago and when I added more GPUs it wouldn't work for some reason. I tried everything like increasing the virtual memory and still didn't work, then as a last resort I added more RAM and the issue was fixed. So try adding more ram and see if it goes away.

If you don't want to add RAM then remove a GPU or 2 and see if the problem is fixed. For some weird reason even though the DAG pagefile is identical, you need more RAM to load it on the GPUs.

If this doesn't work then try another OS. Basically Win10 is a pain, especially on old CPUs but usually the drivers and miners work best in Win10. If Win10 doesn't work then try Ubuntu and if that doesn't work then I have no idea what the issue is.
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September 12, 2019, 10:21:20 PM
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19.9.2 is out.  I hate playing driver roulette but I have some stability issues in 14.7 so I might take it for a spin.
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September 13, 2019, 04:28:44 AM
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How much actual RAM do you have in your system? I've had this issue before years ago and when I added more GPUs it wouldn't work for some reason. I tried everything like increasing the virtual memory and still didn't work, then as a last resort I added more RAM and the issue was fixed. So try adding more ram and see if it goes away.

If you don't want to add RAM then remove a GPU or 2 and see if the problem is fixed. For some weird reason even though the DAG pagefile is identical, you need more RAM to load it on the GPUs.

If this doesn't work then try another OS. Basically Win10 is a pain, especially on old CPUs but usually the drivers and miners work best in Win10. If Win10 doesn't work then try Ubuntu and if that doesn't work then I have no idea what the issue is.

thanks a lot for the suggestions! I have 8GB RAM with a 64GB pagefile. Will try adding more RAM tomorrow and see how it goes.
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Theoritically, you can put Four Reference cards Navi in MSI X570 Godlike. My current tower cooler blocks the first GPU slot. Waiting on 3950X before actually putting the bonus MasterLiquid AIO from MSI X570's promotions.

Anyway, I tried with three GPUS (one custom AIO cooled, two reference coolers) and it works just fine. Their temps are not catastrophic either; With fan speeds less than 50% (therefore noise is tame), the GPU temps are around 65-75 oC, with memory junction temp around 90 oC.

https://youtu.be/IDsYGdhxayA

After 3950X is here, I will get one of that and another reference card 5700 and my goal of having four GPUs in one motherboard will be achieved.

For now the RX 5700 yiels around 48-49 Mh/S each with maximum GPU temps around 70 oC with memory temps around 90 oC, with fans running below 40 %.
This RX 5700 reference design is just great for me.

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Last edit: September 13, 2019, 11:18:11 AM by bategojko74
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Theoritically, you can put Four Reference cards Navi in MSI X570 Godlike. My current tower cooler blocks the first GPU slot. Waiting on 3950X before actually putting the bonus MasterLiquid AIO from MSI X570's promotions.

Anyway, I tried with three GPUS (one custom AIO cooled, two reference coolers) and it works just fine. Their temps are not catastrophic either; With fan speeds less than 50% (therefore noise is tame), the GPU temps are around 65-75 oC, with memory junction temp around 90 oC.

https://youtu.be/IDsYGdhxayA

After 3950X is here, I will get one of that and another reference card 5700 and my goal of having four GPUs in one motherboard will be achieved.

For now the RX 5700 yiels around 48-49 Mh/S each with maximum GPU temps around 70 oC with memory temps around 90 oC, with fans running below 40 %.
This RX 5700 reference design is just great for me.


Can't see any reason not to make 52 mh/s with lower power consumption and gpu temps about 62 and mem temps about 72 and fans below 40. You will damage your memory in long term on 90 degree. Read my previous post and use PM with -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -mclock 900 -cvvdc 750
You can even use -mclock 910 for 52.7mh/s but you have to find lower -tt between 54 and 62. 54 works for sure. The fans will go between 40% and 60% depending on -tt .Currently testing ... -mclock 910 -tt 58 ..., seems very stable. Memory at 76 degree C. Fans at 46%. Power consumption 94 Watts.
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September 13, 2019, 08:26:03 AM
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Try phoenix miner with the following settings: : -ethi 8 -tt 54  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
I make 52.65MH/s with 93 watts powerdraw and gpu hbm temperature 70 degree C. You can try with higher -tt to decrease the fan speed. 54 works for sure and is too safe.

what phoenix miner version?
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September 13, 2019, 11:22:15 AM
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Try phoenix miner with the following settings: : -ethi 8 -tt 54  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
I make 52.65MH/s with 93 watts powerdraw and gpu hbm temperature 70 degree C. You can try with higher -tt to decrease the fan speed. 54 works for sure and is too safe.

what phoenix miner version?
Latest: 4.6c
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September 13, 2019, 12:02:10 PM
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Hi everyone, at this moment what are the best cards in terms of price / performance based on RX 5700 for mining eth?
I plan to build a 4-card rig soon and I am undecided between the purchase of reference cards or some 2-fan variants (for example Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 or MSI RX 5700 MECH)...thank you!
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September 13, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
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Hi everyone, at this moment what are the best cards in terms of price / performance based on RX 5700 for mining eth?
I plan to build a 4-card rig soon and I am undecided between the purchase of reference cards or some 2-fan variants (for example Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 or MSI RX 5700 MECH)...thank you!

In my opinion everything is obvious here, everything depends on you. If noise is not big problem for you, then you can choose reference card, especially there is 3 years warranty. Otherwise overpaying everything about 15-20$ you can choose R57Gaming OC.

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September 13, 2019, 08:58:22 PM
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.
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September 14, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
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maybe it is overheating, something like memory?

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September 14, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
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According to microm max temp is 95, "Op. Temp.
0C to +95C, -40C to +105C"
https://www.micron.com/products/graphics-memory/gddr6

90+ degrees should create problems in long term, esp. 7-24 mining...
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September 14, 2019, 01:03:09 PM
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature
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September 14, 2019, 02:34:19 PM
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature

I keep seeing you post this. (Repeatedly)
What's your environment? I can't get anywhere close to your results. I've tried everything.

Mine is three cards, spaced about 1 inch between on a frame with two 120mm Hydra fans (185.87 CFM) blowing directly on them at full speed.
They're in a hydroponics tent with two other machines and the ambient temperature ranges from 110F to 120F.

This command has been working for the past 21h 33m.
-tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 875
But only get 49.2MH/s for each card on average.

If I attempt to raise to -mclock 910 then my second card reduces to 0MH/s.
No matter what my -tt is set to it never makes any difference for me.
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September 14, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature

I keep seeing you post this. (Repeatedly)
What's your environment? I can't get anywhere close to your results. I've tried everything.

Mine is three cards, spaced about 1 inch between on a frame with two 120mm Hydra fans (185.87 CFM) blowing directly on them at full speed.
They're in a hydroponics tent with two other machines and the ambient temperature ranges from 110F to 120F.

This command has been working for the past 21h 33m.
-tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 875
But only get 49.2MH/s for each card on average.

If I attempt to raise to -mclock 910 then my second card reduces to 0MH/s.
No matter what my -tt is set to it never makes any difference for me.
I use -cvddc 750 instead of 800 and ofcourse PM instead of claymore. The temperature in my room is aboit 22 degree C
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September 14, 2019, 04:05:20 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2019, 04:57:09 PM by Binary100100
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature

I keep seeing you post this. (Repeatedly)
What's your environment? I can't get anywhere close to your results. I've tried everything.

Mine is three cards, spaced about 1 inch between on a frame with two 120mm Hydra fans (185.87 CFM) blowing directly on them at full speed.
They're in a hydroponics tent with two other machines and the ambient temperature ranges from 110F to 120F.

This command has been working for the past 21h 33m.
-tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 875
But only get 49.2MH/s for each card on average.

If I attempt to raise to -mclock 910 then my second card reduces to 0MH/s.
No matter what my -tt is set to it never makes any difference for me.
I use -cvddc 750 instead of 800 and ofcourse PM instead of claymore. The temperature in my room is aboit 22 degree C

So about a 30F-40F (24C) differernce in ambient temperature. I'm literally blowing hot air at my cards. LOL! (I have another inline duct fan arriving tomorrow to exhaust some of this heat. )
But when I try to go beyond 900Mhz I get the "watchdog" message and it quits then I frequently need to hit the reset button because sometimes it freezes up the whole system.
I'm currently trying -tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 890 and I'm pretty stable for the time being. I'll try to reduce my -cvddc to 750 next and check my stability.
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September 14, 2019, 04:58:44 PM
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature

I keep seeing you post this. (Repeatedly)
What's your environment? I can't get anywhere close to your results. I've tried everything.

Mine is three cards, spaced about 1 inch between on a frame with two 120mm Hydra fans (185.87 CFM) blowing directly on them at full speed.
They're in a hydroponics tent with two other machines and the ambient temperature ranges from 110F to 120F.

This command has been working for the past 21h 33m.
-tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 875
But only get 49.2MH/s for each card on average.

If I attempt to raise to -mclock 910 then my second card reduces to 0MH/s.
No matter what my -tt is set to it never makes any difference for me.
I use -cvddc 750 instead of 800 and ofcourse PM instead of claymore. The temperature in my room is aboit 22 degree C

So about a 30F-40F (24C) differernce in ambient temperature. I'm literally blowing hot air at my cards. LOL! (I have another inline duct fan arriving tomorrow to exhaust some of this heat. )
But when I try to go beyond 900Mhz I get the "watchdog" message and it quits then I frequently need to hit the reset button because sometimes it freezes up the whole system.
I'm currently trying -tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 890 and I'm pretty stable for the time being. I'll try to reduce my -cvddc to 750 next and check my stability.
Don't try. Just do it. It wastes you at least 4watts and raises the temperature of your gpu a lot
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September 14, 2019, 05:41:47 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2019, 06:35:34 PM by Binary100100
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All,

Quick question, is anyone else experiencing instability with the RX5700XT?

It will sit at 51mh/s for a few rounds and then drop down to 21, 8, 9 before going back up to 51mh/s

Power Limit -45%
Memory Max Frequency 910
Core Clock Frequency Auto

Checked Board, Riser and PSU with no luck

On latest drivers and Claymore version


Anyone had any luck with this?

Not crashing but the hash rate isn’t consistent?

Reference card 5700xt, Tried using afterburner and wattman to adjust clocks and power with no luck.

PM has rocksolid hashrate at 52.7mhs with: -tt 58  -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 910 -hstats 2
and only 76 degree C mem temperature

I keep seeing you post this. (Repeatedly)
What's your environment? I can't get anywhere close to your results. I've tried everything.

Mine is three cards, spaced about 1 inch between on a frame with two 120mm Hydra fans (185.87 CFM) blowing directly on them at full speed.
They're in a hydroponics tent with two other machines and the ambient temperature ranges from 110F to 120F.

This command has been working for the past 21h 33m.
-tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 875
But only get 49.2MH/s for each card on average.

If I attempt to raise to -mclock 910 then my second card reduces to 0MH/s.
No matter what my -tt is set to it never makes any difference for me.
I use -cvddc 750 instead of 800 and ofcourse PM instead of claymore. The temperature in my room is aboit 22 degree C

So about a 30F-40F (24C) differernce in ambient temperature. I'm literally blowing hot air at my cards. LOL! (I have another inline duct fan arriving tomorrow to exhaust some of this heat. )
But when I try to go beyond 900Mhz I get the "watchdog" message and it quits then I frequently need to hit the reset button because sometimes it freezes up the whole system.
I'm currently trying -tt 58 -cvddc 800 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 890 and I'm pretty stable for the time being. I'll try to reduce my -cvddc to 750 next and check my stability.
Don't try. Just do it. It wastes you at least 4watts and raises the temperature of your gpu a lot

Well... as expected.
20 minutes in with these settings:
-tt 58 -cvddc 750 -cclock 1300 -fanmin 0 -mclock 904 and I get this:
WATCHDOG: GPU 0 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
WATCHDOG: GPU 0 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
Quit, please wait...

then the computer freezes and I have to reset it. Going to dial back to -mclock 900 and let it sit for a few hours.

EDIT:
51 minutes in and still holding but doesn't seem stable.
58C / 57C / 56C giving ~50.5MH/s each but it's bouncing between ~45MH/s to ~50.5MH/s at times.
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