FJ Agrees to make payment after extraordinary display of scumminess(Cliffs inOP)

[poplolnman]

@FortuneJack maybe you could pay 0.05 BTC to everyone who submitted video, contest was a failure so you could just pay everyone for their work and have a peace.

Yeah, No. How would you feel if you were promised a 3 bitcoin reward, and only got 0.05 btc? Put yourself in the contest participants shoes and think about it.

it's obvious they did not intend to pay 3BTC to each, i was about to enter the contest but somehow forgotten about it, i made video for crypto-games and got 0.05BTC that's why i propose this as solution.

They are saying themselves they meant to pay 3btc shared, that would be fine too.  

I pointed out in the first post that even though they said "3 bitcoin each" I thought it might be "3 bitcoin shared"

Only reason we're still discussing "3btc each vs 3btc shared" is because instead of addressing the issue directly and apologizing for the mistake, they lied about it and tried to make it seem like someone else should be held accountable for the rules they posted about a contest they were running.  

As of today, they haven't apologized or admitted to doing anything wrong.


Might as well ad them taking more rake than advertised and not really seeming to give a shit.

The rake is advertised as 4% at cash tables, but they are taking 5%. This needs to be fixed immediately.

No response to this? Should be fixed. Uncapped 5% rake for a bitcoin poker site is just stupid.

The extra 1% is distributed among the top rake makers of the network, this is a mandatory requirement of the network we are enrolled in.

as per my understanding of the video contest rules say that we as 4th to 13th participants would receive 3 btc split based on fj statement "Honorary victors like the fourth to the thirtieth placers will receive a total of 3 BTC each"
so it would solve at least one problem of fj video contest if they decide to pay that amount (around 0.3 each) i as participant glad to hear fj have an intention to do it. so far just it. let's see what would happen in this story.


Edit : i can confirm that i have received the amount promised to honor participants worth 0.3 about 1 hour ago kindly to all participants check your email and fj account.
i thought so far fj video contest accussation solved as fj already sent the amount promised 3 btc split prize.

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[TwitchySeal]

Just saw you have negative trust rating which is quite surprising to me. Are the accusations true?

It wouldn't be as surprising if this thread wasn't self moderated.

They pay users to post nice things while they ignore/delete serious issues.  (17 of my posts have been deleted from this thread since April 11.

Thread is moderated because there were some hard trolling attempts in the past. And it is hard to fight vs all these trolls.
As for current negative trust of FJ, I don't think this issue is affecting players of the casino at all as it is not related.

Hi there, accusation has no argument to exist, we never deserved it and will demand to get it off.

[Dogedigital]

Otherwise, why would be pay out 4-10 3 BTC each, and 11 - 30 places 3 BTC each as well? Could we not be more creative and differentiate 26 places?

As an example, attaching a screenshot from our Poker Tournament Interface, where you can see similar chart to ours (video contests'), for Prize fund distribution, where the amount of 303.6 mBTC is split between 10 - 12 places.

Umm... I'm pretty sure that the picture you're showing actually means that 10, 11, and 12th place get 303.6 mBTC EACH just like your video contest was supposed to be . 

If it were split between those places, it'd most likely be written 10 - 101.2, 11 - 101.2, 12 - 101.2 or 10-12: 101.2.

If it actually is splt, it's very deceptive to your players especially since it's following a relatively similar increase/decrease in pay spots. 

Either case, you're just pouring more fuel to the fire at your own hand.

[FortuneJack]

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

[FortuneJack]

Otherwise, why would be pay out 4-10 3 BTC each, and 11 - 30 places 3 BTC each as well? Could we not be more creative and differentiate 26 places?

As an example, attaching a screenshot from our Poker Tournament Interface, where you can see similar chart to ours (video contests'), for Prize fund distribution, where the amount of 303.6 mBTC is split between 10 - 12 places.

Umm... I'm pretty sure that the picture you're showing actually means that 10, 11, and 12th place get 303.6 mBTC EACH just like your video contest was supposed to be .  

If it were split between those places, it'd most likely be written 10 - 101.2, 11 - 101.2, 12 - 101.2 or 10-12: 101.2.

If it actually is splt, it's very deceptive to your players especially since it's following a relatively similar increase/decrease in pay spots.  

Either case, you're just pouring more fuel to the fire at your own hand.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg14400688#msg14400688
Here's the reply posted by accusation author TwitchySeal to our thread, where he brought to community's attention the terms of Video Contest, from where we can read:
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"7 participants who finish at IV place, will receive the prize pool of 3BTC equally distributed among them"

[TwitchySeal]

Here's the reply posted by accusation author TwitchySeal to our thread, where he brought to community's attention the terms of Video Contest, from where we can read:
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"7 participants who finish at IV place, will receive the prize pool of 3BTC equally distributed among them"

You can just read what I said in OP of this thread.  The only reason were still discussing 3btc each vs 3btc split is because you decided to lie over and over:

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

So you ignored it for weeks, then you told countless lies about it, then you tried to blame someone else and made up lies about me, now you expect to be trusted...hmm

I hope that other players will read this thread and realize that the more we stand up for ourselves the less we will get screwed.  At the very least sites like FortuneJack will think twice before trying a scumbag move in the future.

[FortuneJack]

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

So you ignored it for weeks, then you told countless lies about it, then you tried to blame someone else and made up lies about me, now you expect to be trusted...hmm

I hope that other players will read this thread and realize that the more we stand up for ourselves the less we will get screwed.  At the very least sites like FortuneJack will think twice before trying a scumbag move in the future.

No, we counted promotion void as there was no winner announced, nobody accumulated enough views. To our point of view, the whole accusation was about whether it was correct to void the promotion and not pay out the prizes for the rest of the contestants, or not. Concerned to those, whom T&C did not determine the minimal view requirement.

In the end, as you can see, we still payed out the prizes, so the accusation must be closed for now.

[Dogedigital]

Otherwise, why would be pay out 4-10 3 BTC each, and 11 - 30 places 3 BTC each as well? Could we not be more creative and differentiate 26 places?

As an example, attaching a screenshot from our Poker Tournament Interface, where you can see similar chart to ours (video contests'), for Prize fund distribution, where the amount of 303.6 mBTC is split between 10 - 12 places.

Umm... I'm pretty sure that the picture you're showing actually means that 10, 11, and 12th place get 303.6 mBTC EACH just like your video contest was supposed to be .  

If it were split between those places, it'd most likely be written 10 - 101.2, 11 - 101.2, 12 - 101.2 or 10-12: 101.2.

If it actually is splt, it's very deceptive to your players especially since it's following a relatively similar increase/decrease in pay spots.  

Either case, you're just pouring more fuel to the fire at your own hand.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg14400688#msg14400688
Here's the reply posted by accusation author TwitchySeal to our thread, where he brought to community's attention the terms of Video Contest, from where we can read:
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"7 participants who finish at IV place, will receive the prize pool of 3BTC equally distributed among them"

What I'm saying is the picture that you posted (as an example to back your case) is the same type of structure seen here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg14400688#msg14400688).

It seems that the payout from that poker tournament would be paying out 303.6mBTC EACH.  Are you saying that those payouts referenced only pay out 101.2 each?

[s1ng]

And I'm still not received anything from the contest !
You're publishing my video it means that you're accept my video and will pay afterward but ...

In the end, as you can see, we still payed out the prizes, so the accusation must be closed for now.

No ! This case must be continue ... !

[FortuneJack]

5/19 Update:

FortuneJack says they will be splitting up 3 BTC among each of the video contest contestants.

The rules posted in December offered "a total of 3 BTC each.", but I think everyone is satisfied as they obviously screwed up the rules and are at least now paying out 10 times more than what was originally sent.  

That being said, as of right now they haven't apologized or even admitted to any wrong doing.  They basically ignored the issue hoping it would go away.  When they realized it wasn't going away, they tried to cover it up with more lies.  Only after being caught lying again, did they decide to pay...

Cliffs:

April 12th - I started this thread.  FJ responded twice claiming they owed nothing and the contestants should be grateful FJ was generous enough to send them .03 BTC since they didn't have to.
They ignored the whole thing for the next month.

May 13th - They made post implying that users were disqualified for fraudulent views on their videos.  (This was bullshit - majority of videos had under 100 views, the most was around 300)

May 17th - They made a post with mostly irrelevant info and a couple lies.
Lie #1-

We never advertised 100 BTC in prizes, as there was only 27 BTC prize fund.

Lie #2-

We never deleted posts written on our thread, unless it was a scum or false accusation written in Bold and Red format.

Proof that both were lies in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434612.msg14861247#msg14861247

May 16 - They this absurd claim about me.  There is absolutely no truth to this statement:

Our negative relationship started with you demanding to be payed for signature campaign posts, when you were not even enrolled in it. After attaching our signature to your profile and posting on the forum, you demanded to be payed overrunning the usual procedure every community member has to pass. Since then, you spam and scam the thread.

May 17 - Brand new account claiming to be COO of Bitcoin PR Buzz makes a post claiming the "3 btc each" Press Release made in Feb was her fault because she changed it after they sent it to her.
I posted proof that just before she made this post, FortuneJack edited their own post from December, which said the same exact thing this person claimed was her mistake in Feb.
Requests to confirm she worked for a seperate company and what her relationship to FJ was have all been ignored.

May 18th - FJ claims it was Bitcoin PR Buzz' fault that the rules were posted wrong from the FJ account in December.
Pokerplayers should check out their lol evidence screenshot of tournament lobby payouts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434612.msg14885728#msg14885728



Oh and this is unrelated but they think it's fine to advertise 4% rake and take 5%  (This is actually a big deal for a serious poker player)

The rake is advertised as 4% at cash tables, but they are taking 5%. This needs to be fixed immediately.

No response to this? Should be fixed. Uncapped 5% rake for a bitcoin poker site is just stupid.

The extra 1% is distributed among the top rake makers of the network, this is a mandatory requirement of the network we are enrolled in.

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Fortune Jacks has maintained a reputation by appearing to be available on this forum to answer any questions and defend themselves against any accusations the way an honest business would.

In reality, they are using Bitcointalk to maintain a good reputation while consistently behaving scummy.

When a player comes to their thread with an issue , they are often bullied into silence by other users who are clearly being motivated to protect FJs reputation at all cost.  If that doesn't work, FJ simply deletes the post and the thread continues to be flooded with praise from signature campaign members working on meeting their monthly quota.

I will be bringing more attention to these practices in another post (FJ is not the only site abusing bitcointalk) as I see it as a much bigger problem than the two separate issues below.



ISSUE #1 - The Youtube Video Contest

From December - April, FJ ran a contest with over 100 BTC in prizes to the winners who would be announced on April 1. This contest was heavily advertised. April first came and went, no winners were announced, it seems they ended up awarding a total of 0.28 BTC to the 8 entries and refuse to respond to any questions.

The rules for the contest:

Partakers must keep in mind that their video must use Fortunjack tagline "why look for fortune elsewhere?". Their entries must run 3-15 min and must have a video and audio quality not lower than 480p. Winners will be determined based on the overall views their videos have garnered all throughout the campaign, which will be from Jan 15 to Feb 29,2016.

In order to land on the first place spot, entries must generate over 15,000 views, the second place must generate at least 7,000 views and third place 10,000 views.

So far, the participants of the contest have been very active and submitting videos to Fortunejack. The process is very dynamic and videos look very creative and well-made. You can be even better if you make a little effort and submit your version showing your vision, your ideas about FortuneJack. Please be more active, submit your video and become the winner who will be awarded with 10 BTC!!!

Note: Only the top 3 prizes have a minimum # of views required.  Also, they ended up extending the deadline to April 1.

The prizes:


One could interpret the prize chart as 4-10 receiving 3 BTC or 4-10 sharing 3BTC however FJ clarifies that 4-10 would receive 3 BTC each.

A grand total of 10 BTC will be given to the contest’s first placer, which will be followed by a Bitcoin prize worth 7 BTC and 4 BTC for the second and third place winners. Honorary victors like the fourth to the thirtieth placers will receive a total of 3 BTC each.

On another note, the Jack’s Favorite award will be given to the entry that has been personally handpicked by the moderators of this Bitcoin casino. Of course, the titleholder for this reward will receive special and exclusive perks courtesy of FortuneJack.

The FortuneJack YouTube Video Contest which is the latest promotion on deck the Bitcoin casino, but it is unlike the typical Christmas and holiday bonuses and promotions that require playing Bitcoin slots and other games.  This FortuneJack exclusive opens a refreshing and interesting portal where participants can earn lucrative amounts of BTCs out of their uniqueness and creativity.

Participants of the  FortuneJack YouTube Video Contest can win up to 10BTC when they place first in this one-of-a-kind contest in BTC gambling. The mission is to show why FortuneJack is the better casino.

Partakers must keep in mind that their video must use Fortunjack tagline "why look for fortune elsewhere?". Their entries must run 3-15 min and must have a video and audio quality not lower than 480p. Winners will be determined based on the overall views their videos have garnered all throughout the campaign, which will be from Jan 15 to Feb 29,2016.

In order to land on the first place spot, entries must generate over 15,000 views, the second place must generate at least 7,000 views and third place 10,000 views.

So far, the participants of the contest have been very active and submitting videos to Fortunejack. The process is very dynamic and videos look very creative and well-made. You can be even better if you make a little effort and submit your version showing your vision, your ideas about FortuneJack. Please be more active, submit your video and become the winner who will be awarded with 10 BTC!!!

On April 1st, no winners were announced.  Nothing was announced.  Someone who entered the contest shared the email the received:

I believe the reward was the same for all entries, 0.03BTC.

Since April 1st, several users have requested FJ explain what happened, they have ignored all of it, responding only posts like this one: [LINK]

ISSUE #2 - Poker at Fortune Jack


FortuneJack opened a poker room a couple months ago, which is what caught my attention.

They run micro stakes and freeroll tournaments mostly.

They also do not manually approve withdraws or enforce any traditional rules to prevent players from multi-accounting.  They have created a situation where a player can easily play the same tournament from many accounts, and instantly withdraw any funds should they win.

On March 9th I first asked them if they intended to take any steps to prevent honest players from being cheated.  In case they weren't, I suggested they simply inform all the players that they were not preventing players from using multiple accounts.  By not saying anything, they were making any honest player a victim.

FJ responded to a few other posts, but not mine, so I asked again on March 10th. [LINK] After being ignored for a week I asked again [LINK] This time I got a reply:

Dear user,

Thank you for the interest in the above mentioned clauses. We read your message, we are aware of that and we will provide you with the answer. You do not have to reiterate it with that frequency as the reminder. Your opinion matters, thank you for helping us improve your future visits! Have a great day.

Since this response, nearly a month ago, they have failed to respond and begun to simply delete posts questioning them.  In the same period, however, they have renewed their signature campaign and responded to thank anyone who paid them a compliment.  

FortuneJack says they will be splitting up 3 BTC among each of the video contest contestants.

Once again, we never claimed to distribute 3 BTC to each contestant, the T&C of the contest states the prize fund of 3 BTC would be equally distributed among the contestants. It was a mistake in one word spread by Bitcoin PR Buzz, they already apologised for it.


Here's the proof redistributed by you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg14400688#msg14400688

May 17th - They made a post with mostly irrelevant info and a couple lies.
Lie #1-

We never advertised 100 BTC in prizes, as there was only 27 BTC prize fund.

Lie #2-

We never deleted posts written on our thread, unless it was a scum or false accusation written in Bold and Red format.

Proof that both were lies in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434612.msg14861247#msg14861247

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You are still running after word 'each', that is how you get 100 BTC... While we claim there was 27BTC prize fund. We never advertised 100 BTC in prizes as such. It was a mistake published by Bitcoin PR Buzz.

May 16 - They this absurd claim about me.  There is absolutely no truth to this statement:

Our negative relationship started with you demanding to be payed for signature campaign posts, when you were not even enrolled in it. After attaching our signature to your profile and posting on the forum, you demanded to be payed overrunning the usual procedure every community member has to pass. Since then, you spam and scam the thread.

All your posts regarding signature campaign enrolment are deleted, so we can't bring up any proofs. The whole marketing team states otherwise.

May 17 - Brand new account claiming to be COO of Bitcoin PR Buzz makes a post claiming the "3 btc each" Press Release made in Feb was her fault because she changed it after they sent it to her.
I posted proof that just before she made this post, FortuneJack edited their own post from December, which said the same exact thing this person claimed was her mistake in Feb.
Requests to confirm she worked for a seperate company and what her relationship to FJ was have all been ignored.

You can write direct message to Bitcoin PR Buzz and hopefully you will get a competent reply, you can't expect third party to assist us in full. They did what they could and apologised for the mistake.

One could interpret the prize chart as 4-10 receiving 3 BTC or 4-10 sharing 3BTC however FJ clarifies that 4-10 would receive 3 BTC each.

A grand total of 10 BTC will be given to the contest’s first placer, which will be followed by a Bitcoin prize worth 7 BTC and 4 BTC for the second and third place winners. Honorary victors like the fourth to the thirtieth placers will receive a total of 3 BTC each.

Passage from the T&C: "7 Participants who finish at IV place, will receive the prize pool of 3 BTC equally distributed among them"



The word 'each' was an editorial mistake spread by third party and we payed out to all video contestants 3BTC split prize, as it was noted in T&C. If contestants reply that they deserve 3BTC each, so far they claim they were aware it would be a split prize, we will not continue arguing about this issue and will leave this reference with peace, as there seems no end to it.

The author of the accusation has never uploaded any videos, has never taken part in the contest. We want video contestants to decide whether accusation must be closed or not.

[TwitchySeal]

Provide a list of the contestants who were paid in total 3 BTC.

People are claiming you did not pay.

All your posts regarding signature campaign enrolment are deleted, so we can't bring up any proofs. The whole marketing team states otherwise.

No they aren't.  lol  Sig campaign thread isn't self moderated. I've never wore any signature advertising any site EVER.

 The whole marketing team= Tako?  Same person who is likely to blame for this entire mess?

[irfan_pak10]

Im Confirming here that I received .3 BTC Two days ago,

[Avirunes]

Im Confirming here that I received .3 BTC Two days ago,

All happened because TwitchySeal made this came into light.Otherwise they would have gone away with videos paying participants small amount of BTC.It is great to see a community member to work towards the right way .You earned my respect TwitchySeal.

[s1ng]

https://blockchain.info/tx/b03fe39a5ebe4a8194970eb39a58d5e39516bd8cbd49d188ecac913bdc9cc000

I have received it too ,the prize for the contest !

Thanks FortuneJack !

Thanks TwitchySeal !

[TwitchySeal]

Seems like they chose to say they would pay all contenstants and then just pay those who they think would know and/or complain.


MAY 19th they claim everyone has been paid

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

player claims they were not paid

And I'm still not received anything from the contest !
You're publishing my video it means that you're accept my video and will pay afterward but ...

MAY 20th I request list of paid winners (never receive reply)
MAY 23rd Player who spoke up about not being paid received payment

This may seem petty, but It's one of many pieces of evidence that suggests FortuneJack has ultimately not decided to change their ways.  If they think they will get away with it, and it's easier than telling the truth, they will lie.

[FortuneJack]

Seems like they chose to say they would pay all contenstants and then just pay those who they think would know and/or complain.


MAY 19th they claim everyone has been paid

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

player claims they were not paid

And I'm still not received anything from the contest !
You're publishing my video it means that you're accept my video and will pay afterward but ...

MAY 20th I request list of paid winners (never receive reply)
MAY 23rd Player who spoke up about not being paid received payment

This may seem petty, but It's one of many pieces of evidence that suggests FortuneJack has ultimately not decided to change their ways.  If they think they will get away with it, and it's easier than telling the truth, they will lie.

Each video contestant was payed, we cannot distribute transactions due to our privacy policy.

The player you are referring to, S1ng, confirmed receive of the funds.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b03fe39a5ebe4a8194970eb39a58d5e39516bd8cbd49d188ecac913bdc9cc000

I have received it too ,the prize for the contest !

Thanks FortuneJack !

Thanks TwitchySeal !

[TwitchySeal]

Seems like they chose to say they would pay all contenstants and then just pay those who they think would know and/or complain.


MAY 19th they claim everyone has been paid

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

player claims they were not paid

And I'm still not received anything from the contest !
You're publishing my video it means that you're accept my video and will pay afterward but ...

MAY 20th I request list of paid winners (never receive reply)
MAY 23rd Player who spoke up about not being paid received payment

This may seem petty, but It's one of many pieces of evidence that suggests FortuneJack has ultimately not decided to change their ways.  If they think they will get away with it, and it's easier than telling the truth, they will lie.

Each video contestant was payed, we cannot distribute transactions due to our privacy policy.

The player you are referring to, S1ng, confirmed receive of the funds.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b03fe39a5ebe4a8194970eb39a58d5e39516bd8cbd49d188ecac913bdc9cc000

I have received it too ,the prize for the contest !

Thanks FortuneJack !

Thanks TwitchySeal !

Last time you said you paid everyone (on May 19th) you were lying. I think you still have only paid the players who know about this thread.
You said you would announce the winners, and I don't see any good reason not to - unless you only paid some of them... 


I should also point out to everyone that FortuneJack does not seem to regret the way they have handled this situation in general.  It was all denies and lies, then one day "WE PAYED EVERYONE SO TAKE OFF OUR RED TRUST!" (which was also a lie)

Not even an attempt at convincing players that they plan on behaving any differently in the future.

[FortuneJack]

Seems like they chose to say they would pay all contenstants and then just pay those who they think would know and/or complain.


MAY 19th they claim everyone has been paid

We payed out all of the contestants the split prize of 3 BTC as it was noted in T&C, therefore, the accusation must be closed.

player claims they were not paid

And I'm still not received anything from the contest !
You're publishing my video it means that you're accept my video and will pay afterward but ...

MAY 20th I request list of paid winners (never receive reply)
MAY 23rd Player who spoke up about not being paid received payment

This may seem petty, but It's one of many pieces of evidence that suggests FortuneJack has ultimately not decided to change their ways.  If they think they will get away with it, and it's easier than telling the truth, they will lie.

Each video contestant was payed, we cannot distribute transactions due to our privacy policy.

The player you are referring to, S1ng, confirmed receive of the funds.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b03fe39a5ebe4a8194970eb39a58d5e39516bd8cbd49d188ecac913bdc9cc000

I have received it too ,the prize for the contest !

Thanks FortuneJack !

Thanks TwitchySeal !

Last time you said you paid everyone (on May 19th) you were lying. I think you still have only paid the players who know about this thread.
You said you would announce the winners, and I don't see any good reason not to - unless you only paid some of them... 


I should also point out to everyone that FortuneJack does not seem to regret the way they have handled this situation in general.  It was all denies and lies, then one day "WE PAYED EVERYONE SO TAKE OFF OUR RED TRUST!" (which was also a lie)

Not even an attempt at convincing players that they plan on behaving any differently in the future.

Last time you said you paid everyone (on May 19th) you were lying. I think you still have only paid the players who know about this thread.
You said you would announce the winners, and I don't see any good reason not to - unless you only paid some of them... 

Once again, we payed out all contestants, the reason S1ng wrote again was that player had 2 accounts at Fortunejack. The video was uploaded by 2 contestants.

I should also point out to everyone that FortuneJack does not seem to regret the way they have handled this situation in general.  It was all denies and lies, then one day "WE PAYED EVERYONE SO TAKE OFF OUR RED TRUST!" (which was also a lie)

The acquisition was raised because of us not paying out Video Contest prizes. We had our arguments about it, in the end, we still payed out and therefore, acquisition must be closed. You are the only community member demanding us to regret we did not pay out in time, while contestants themselves seem to be satisfied with the outcome of your reference.

You said you would announce the winners, and I don't see any good reason not to - unless you only paid some of them... 

There were no winners for the contest, the promotion was void! We would never post 'we payed out all contestants' without crediting their accounts. Raising doubts like this is not necessary and does not sound professional.

[FortuneJack10BTC]

The most honest FortuneJack bitcoin casino , and the payouts for video konkurs was paid

[pawel7777]

The most honest FortuneJack bitcoin casino , and the payouts for video konkurs was paid

Well done on creating an account just to post this.