top20 cons

[BitcoinNational]

this is based on real evidence ... daily volume paired with associated projects  

i kid you NAT! http://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

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[cryptoheadd]

Please add Radium as well

[BitcoinNational]

Please add Radium as well

no

hit top20 market cap and vol, then ... yes

[BitcoinNational]

@kingcolex

allow me to correlate ...
sarcasm ... you get none!

the philosophy of the use of 'con' is captured in this quote:

Low market cap & poorly supported coins are a great way to teach yourself financial cryptography, and get an idea of what some of the scams, hustles, and outright frauds that go on with pretty much anything involving money. The only difference between shitcoins, bitcoins, and dollars are the sophistication of the scams.

[x13]

Here is my list  I voted for the first three on your poll.

• 1. Bitcoin
• 2. Counterparty
• 3. NEM
• 4. NXT
• 5. Qora (unfortunately not on the list)
• 6. Emercoin
• 7. Monero
• 8. BitcoinDark
• 9. Ethereum
• 10. Vericoin

[Febo]

I predict BTC will win.

[iv4n]

I predict BTC will win.

I voted for BTC, I choose eth and nem also cause I earned some money on this two coins few days ago. It will be a photo finish for now btc have 5 and eth 4 voices. Maybe there will be more surprises, but I would place my bet also on btc.

[lanmao]

 BTC
 ETH
 LTC
 NXT
 no more!!!

[Macrochip]

Looking at preliminary poll results: Don't know about BTC or ETH, but cripple-/ninjamined Monero is clearly a Top CON. Good choice voters!

[jethrorn99]

BTC is on top because it's the most used cryptocurrency in the world now.

ETH is still new. With the support of Microsoft, it's not a suprise ETH is big.

Doge and Lite is big, but their price is slowly dropping .

[alenevaa]

Just voted for the ETH 

[tuvok007]

What are cons? is that like "pros and cons" or like con artists cons? Oh you mean coins 

[BitcoinNational]

just being punny
(mostly)
But the best con artists crypto coin cons is beyond a doubt BTC.
Remind me of how much magicaltux took?  And the 'foundation' had him sitting on the board.
BTC Jesus professed the solvency and trustworthy-ness of poor Tux.  And before that it was Silkroad money, and pirate pass thru bond cons.  BTC is the dirtiest of all the beasts.  And ETH is the offspring BTC big capital club (and most of their BTC loot was stolen from chumps).  $ETH comes with promise of even greater filth.  It's cons all the way down.

[tuvok007]

just being punny
(mostly)
But the best con artists crypto coin cons is beyond a doubt BTC.
Remind me of how much magicaltux took?  And the 'foundation' had him sitting on the board.
BTC Jesus professed the solvency and trustworthy-ness of poor Tux.  And before that it was Silkroad money, and pirate pass thru bond cons.  BTC is the dirtiest of all the beasts.  And ETH is the offspring BTC big capital club (and most of their BTC loot was stolen from chumps).  $ETH comes with promise of even greater filth.  It's cons all the way down.

But is that "Bitcoins" fault? no, just some bad people that used bitcoins.

[Digit-0]

mmm should not be btc excluded from this vote list since is not an altcoin? well i know that title says "top20 cos" but...

btw i vote for ETH too, seems to be a really good ALT, exp and monero are my 2nd and 3rd choice.

[BitcoinNational]

it's basically a bagholders checklist for top level cons/coins
i agree btc is not an alt, but seems like 80% of the folks here @Altcoin Discussion think anything but BTC is a sheee-ot-con

[sase007]

It is obviously Bitcoin, Ethereum and Doge.
I think these are te most promising out of the digital currency coins avaliable.

[BitcoinNational]

IMO
LTC is Doge
Doge is LTC
they are kinda wed at the hip

[Xenophoto]

BTC should not be on the list. I voted for ETH as it is a hot topic right now and the chart seems promising. LTC is my second choice though.

[wikenpp]

Well all factors are pointed towards how popular a coin is and bought on exchanges. This is represented on:
http://coinmarketcap.com/

So yes i would say your top 20 list is already listed there.

[codehtcmail]

Lisk is making a very big hype, but I think if they delay the launch too much they will lose that hype, they should act fast to capitalize, people will not wait forever.

[gtglener]

I think after Bitcoin Altcoin is the next top, but a number of people has voted for the Ethereum, I don't think that why for them Ethereum is No.1 as in the near future there is no chance for the ethereum, a few months more Ethereum will come back and after August I think it will go up but not much high.

[rinhunter]

I choose ETH, because it is good for the future, then LTC.
LTC n Dogecoin community is quite large and old, many sites are already using the LTC and Doge as a alternative payment other than Bitcoin.

[BitcoinNational]

Well all factors are pointed towards how popular a coin is and bought on exchanges. This is represented on:
http://coinmarketcap.com/
So yes i would say your top 20 list is already listed there.

mostly, ranked by market cap, but clustered into platform/dac/tech

[vuduchyld]

I see what you did there.

If you were going for cons, I'm not sure how Supernet didn't make the list. 

[BitcoinHodler]

this is based on real evidence ... daily volume paired with associated projects  

i kid you NAT! http://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

well, i believe only top ten daily volume is not enough to decide which coins are good. there are a lot of factors involved like the usability of the coin and also the developer team.

besides if you want to decide only on market cap and volume you should see how long the coin could sustain that market cap and volume because some coins (as a part pf pump and dump) will have a temporary surge which may push them up in the rank like ETH but they will die slowly.

[bestluck]

i have voted for bitcoin only as it is the only good virtual currency among all the crypto currencies, ethereum is also suggested by more people but it is far back than bitcoin, we cannot trust on ethereum for longer.

[BitcoinNational]

that's why btc is the best con
1000s of nuffnuffs parroting ... "There is no coin but bitcoin"

that said there are only 2 cons you can drop a $1M dollar sell order on; so there will always be that.

[GailSan]

I don't particularly know from the list which ones are and which ones are not. All I do know is there are many which is very sad. I still have hope some of them get through to the mass market. I do feel strongly there is not enough emphasis on reaching out to the masses within the Crypto scene.

[BitcoinNational]

even though it is STUPID
reaching out to the masses means 3rd party storage solutions
(aka MtGox, Cryptsy, ShapeShift, oops hacked)

but 9 out of 10 future crypto users are too dumb
so anyone getting into crypto now will likely play the roll of banker/depositor

what is still unseen is how2 avoid centralization
yet maintain user friendliness for the 'Masses'

trust is not leaving the 'business of money'
but something like a server based 'visa' network
with the coins actually held in cold wallets by trustees who issue 'credit' into the systems

but all that will come with the 2.0 / social networks

 

[DaMut]

what do you think about SEC a.k.a SAFEEXCHANGECOIN guys?
stable price when btc pumped or dumped.
and a lot of people said it's not their true price?
because SEC price should be around 10% MAID.

what do you think guys?
IMO it's another great project

[BitcoinNational]

just another version of a 'peg'
not that that is bad
there must be a virtual token of all major fiat
btc, ltc, eth are already new kind of fiat
still very much in their infancy

there has been some talk of the next $1 Billion dollar coin; and i think the $1 peg products might be it.
that is adoptable, portable, and global  

paypal, visa, etc offer this service but skim at least +3%
banks have standard rape rates of at least $50/year to hold your fiat (fine print hidden fees)

so the potential for pegs, even if they skim under 0.01% is huge.

[wizardee]

I would add CLOAK. Allready now they have one of best trustless anon tech! ..but its up to you.

[john-connor]

I'm 100% in XVC but I'm also biased 

[safari88]

I predict BTC will win.

if predict who will win. this easy to predict, of course bitcoin will win. bitcoin is everything from crypto.

[BitcoinNational]

@john-connor i have faith you're sincere
@cloakguy yeah i am guessing you guys are legit2
@sdc some hidden mining?
@dash clearly dogey
@xmr guess that makes you the lead dog

But can any of the none TOR based anons explain how to audit the coin counts and coin rewards?  


ref.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1446996.0 The impact of bad crypto (DASH, SDC, etc). How much does math matter?
https://shnoe.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/de-anonymizing-shadowcash-and-oz-coin/

[lazi]

I would add CLOAK. Allready now they have one of best trustless anon tech! ..but its up to you.

CLOAK has the best tech at the Moment!
So where is CLOAK at the list? 

[BitcoinNational]

I would add CLOAK. Allready now they have one of best trustless anon tech! ..but its up to you.

CLOAK has the best tech at the Moment!
So where is CLOAK at the list? 

Top20 yo!
i see cloak @#81

hit #69 or better and i might bent the rules
they are already loose, but not that loose

[EmilioMann]

XVC, BTC and decred

[Noolz39]

my choice is DGB, ETH, CLAM and DCR

[wikenpp]

My favourite ones now are; bitshares and stellar.
I do think that ethereum has a big potential but it needs more development and stability.

[trincaxt]

XVC !!!

[BitcoinNational]

i like DCR
they've raise a fair amount of capital
let's see what they can do

@vanilla (free advice) get on more exchanges; else you'll become bytecoin II

[deivison]

XVC

ETH

[doremi]

Vcash XVC..King of the future !

[Rotator]

Every ico crowdfunding is scam sooner or later you will realize, so it would be very great job to collect names of all those coins and projects , but they already wear one name ICO and they are dagerous just like ponzi.

[BTCLovingDude]

my top coin is obviously bitcoin because that is the heart of cryptocurrency and no matter what some FUDsters like to spread it will be strong and never be replaced.

after that i will always look for coins to invest in for short term and get out with the profit.

nowadays i am mostly invested in Litecoin and i am already in profit and buying more since the price took a dive because it will rise with bitcoin without a doubt.

other than that i am looking at some altcoins to see if there is any chance there, one of them is LISK.

and lets not forget about ETH, i am waiting for the mass dump and the big fall to buy at the very bottom, other than that i will never buy it.

Every ico crowdfunding is scam sooner or later you will realize, so it would be very great job to collect names of all those coins and projects , but they already wear one name ICO and they are dagerous just like ponzi.

not necessarily. although almost all of them are scams and/or turning into scams you can not treat them all the same, whenever you see an ICO shout scam. you only should stay aware.

[BitcoinNational]

Vanilla for the hijacking of the poll
takes the lead over XMR and Dash

ETH will dump all summer ... bear market of denial ... might get some pops on the release of usable features ... Singapore virtual gold seems to be the most professional project pump thus.

all money is a ponzi, but crypto lets the buyer see the numbers, ICOs dont!

digib might be the smartest con, hong KONG!

[BitcoinNational]

fuk you ETH
$10 and half the volume of BTC

GXXXXXJJKKLLSDANMAINTTITT

there is really a nasty divorce between ETH and BTC camps going down ;/

[goostatic74829]

Haha why is btc on this list

[BitcoinNational]

@goo

because you sold out your sig. for a few WAVES
and for that reason BTC is on the list ... Also $80M in trade vol. = hellava Con!

[Rotator]

SSD loking good now, we can expect an update in main topic this will trigger pump probably. So i must vote for this old coin, and i would like to see rise of those coins with NO PREMINE no ICO IPO..Instead of those projects ETH LISK..We are tired from this

[d5000]

Dash, XRP and XAU are the top cons out there .

In a second row I would place Stellar and FedoraCon.

I don't know where to place BTS. On one hand, it's a centralized con. But I like BitUSD a bit

The same about Peercoin. Was very innovative and I like it, but is still a con because of the centralized checkpoint system which gives Sunny King Louis XIV-like powers. It is not a coincidence that Louis XIV was called the Sunny King

[BitcoinNational]

Dash, XRP and XAU are the top cons out there .
In a second row I would place Stellar and FedoraCon.

great call. agree.

DASH in civil war.
Tips popped 50% loss ATM.
XAU ... wat? ... exactly.
Stellar ... the CEO resigns ... so much for running a ICO coin like a corporation ... overhead alone is nutty.
XRP ... might have the capital to do what Stellar couldn't ... but is the Bank Corp chain.

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look at all the new Con turds that instantaneously have appeared in 6 weeks.

XEM what a pump

DAO lolz

LSK

steem?

winner ... BLUE ... from dead to millions ... yobit trash

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1    Bitcoin Bitcoin    BTC    $ 10,480,276,397    $ 664.50    15,771,720    $ 68,541,300    -0.06 %    0.19 %    0.11 %
2    Ethereum Ethereum    ETH    $ 1,065,142,882    $ 12.95    82,226,922    $ 30,549,000    1.54 %    3.56 %    7.25 %
3    Steem Steem    STEEM    $ 302,690,671    $ 3.31    91,556,869    $ 930,213    -2.63 %    -14.29 %    -16.16 %
4    Ripple Ripple    XRP    $ 226,449,076    $ 0.006370    35,550,142,696 *    $ 847,229    -0.04 %    -0.54 %    -0.72 %
5    Litecoin Litecoin    LTC    $ 192,945,383    $ 4.13    46,768,629    $ 938,946    0.01 %    -0.13 %    -1.03 %
6    Dash Dash    DASH    $ 61,710,651    $ 9.34    6,608,983    $ 727,674    0.60 %    11.69 %    19.20 %
7    NEM NEM    XEM    $ 59,799,960    $ 0.006644    8,999,999,999 *    $ 326,960    -1.26 %    -3.25 %    -18.79 %
8    Emercoin Emercoin    EMC    $ 34,045,908    $ 0.919999    37,006,462    $ 2,177,260    -1.94 %    46.64 %    130.85 %
9    Lisk Lisk    LSK    $ 32,569,600    $ 0.325696    100,000,000 *    $ 533,137    -0.97 %    4.00 %    -3.18 %
10    Dogecoin Dogecoin    DOGE    $ 24,939,325    $ 0.000237    105,279,416,786    $ 241,060    -0.15 %    -0.60 %    -9.81 %
11    Nxt Nxt    NXT    $ 23,775,700    $ 0.023800    998,999,999 *    $ 227,728    -0.96 %    0.24 %    -17.00 %
12    Monero Monero    XMR    $ 22,201,698    $ 1.78    12,463,971    $ 142,138    0.26 %    1.84 %    -10.40 %
13    Waves Waves    WAVES    $ 20,160,900    $ 0.201609    100,000,000 *    $ 113,150    -5.00 %    -6.80 %    4.58 %
14    Factom Factom    FCT    $ 13,604,078    $ 1.55    8,753,219 *    $ 146,590    0.44 %    0.39 %    -0.86 %
15    BitShares BitShares    BTS    $ 13,583,626    $ 0.005291    2,567,400,000 *    $ 247,992    -0.48 %    -0.35 %    0.66 %
16    Siacoin Siacoin    SC    $ 12,010,977    $ 0.000727    16,519,062,222    $ 224,952    0.67 %    5.76 %    1.37 %
17    Stellar Stellar    XLM    $ 10,580,462    $ 0.001872    5,653,103,727 *    $ 19,870    0.75 %    1.78 %    -5.75 %
18    Peercoin Peercoin    PPC    $ 10,287,759    $ 0.440812    23,338,200    $ 139,151    -0.01 %    -0.88 %    8.40 %
19    Bytecoin Bytecoin    BCN    $ 9,769,876    $ 0.000054    180,907,883,959    $ 4,036    0.05 %    11.42 %    12.97 %
20    Counterparty Counterparty    XCP    $ 8,669,780    $ 3.30    2,625,893 *    $ 23,081    1.04 %    4.97 %    -18.64 %
21    GameCredits GameCredits    GAME    $ 8,523,694    $ 0.152253    55,983,752    $ 39,682    -0.01 %    0.51 %    -31.49 %
22    Namecoin Namecoin    NMC    $ 5,719,757    $ 0.388138    14,736,400    $ 10,761    -0.14 %    0.68 %    2.67 %
23    NautilusCoin NautilusCoin    NAUT    $ 5,492,641    $ 0.424801    12,929,915 *    $ 203,721    -2.03 %    13.93 %    7.93 %
24    YbCoin YbCoin    YBC    $ 4,907,873    $ 1.63    3,010,706 *    $ 43,332    0.86 %    0.21 %    -3.89 %
25    SARCoin SARCoin    SAR    $ 4,327,921    $ 0.069585    62,196,084 *    $ 4,812    -0.01 %    -0.08 %    1.69 %
26    SysCoin SysCoin    SYS    $ 4,317,227    $ 0.010069    428,751,485    $ 222,045    4.87 %    30.06 %    40.23 %
27    FedoraCoin FedoraCoin    TIPS    $ 3,911,761    $ 0.000009    429,854,824,678    $ 5,465    -0.03 %    -16.30 %    99.26 %
28    Decred Decred    DCR    $ 3,826,547    $ 1.74    2,200,796    $ 20,031    -0.03 %    1.09 %    -2.65 %
29    Bitcrystals Bitcrystals    BCY    $ 3,806,312    $ 0.090385    42,111,979 *    $ 3,307    -0.02 %    -1.32 %    16.09 %
30    SolarCoin SolarCoin    SLR    $ 3,794,332    $ 0.110415    34,364,282 *    $ 4,280    3.10 %    -2.35 %    39.69 %
31    Xaurum Xaurum    XAU    $ 3,750,258    $ 500.93    7,487    $ 473    1.40 %    6.59 %    12.84 %
32    Rubycoin Rubycoin    RBY    $ 3,549,156    $ 0.152484    23,275,594 *    $ 11,159    0.01 %    0.27 %    20.87 %
33    VPNCoin VPNCoin    VPN    $ 2,880,641    $ 0.007195    400,339,746 *    $ 53,649    -0.00 %    -1.98 %    -12.84 %
34    Yocoin Yocoin    YOC    $ 2,820,581    $ 0.139668    20,194,900    $ 23,688    -3.82 %    -12.72 %    -28.47 %
35    DigiByte DigiByte    DGB    $ 2,737,253    $ 0.000399    6,863,654,635    $ 50,693    -0.37 %    4.78 %    4.08 %
36    BlackCoin BlackCoin    BLK    $ 2,729,384    $ 0.036123    75,558,052 *    $ 40,638    -0.48 %    -1.44 %    -8.59 %
37    Voxels Voxels    VOX    $ 2,616,201    $ 0.083054    31,500,000 *    $ 81,134    -1.45 %    4.66 %    40.34 %
38    I/O Coin I/O Coin    IOC    $ 2,358,207    $ 0.144963    16,267,651 *    $ 32,070    0.00 %    -8.65 %    20.26 %
39    GridCoin GridCoin    GRC    $ 2,343,406    $ 0.006191    378,514,488    $ 943    -0.30 %    0.76 %    1.75 %
40    HitCoin HitCoin    HTC    $ 2,334,342    $ 0.000212    10,996,318,099 **    $ 53,884    0.06 %    182.32 %    36.67 %
41    Feathercoin Feathercoin    FTC    $ 2,312,632    $ 0.017906    129,157,640    $ 31,906    -0.31 %    -20.89 %    5.96 %
42    BitcoinDark BitcoinDark    BTCD    $ 2,260,148    $ 1.77    1,275,385    $ 1,605    4.19 %    3.67 %    -4.30 %
43    VeriCoin VeriCoin    VRC    $ 2,179,329    $ 0.078639    27,713,046    $ 36,767    -2.58 %    -9.69 %    -35.13 %
44    EuropeCoin EuropeCoin    ERC    $ 1,923,821    $ 0.020712    92,882,561 *    $ 875    -3.68 %    344.86 %    767.95 %
45    Mintcoin Mintcoin    MINT    $ 1,836,641    $ 0.000080    23,077,840,377 *    $ 1,227    8.85 %    7.86 %    -1.28 %
46    MonaCoin MonaCoin    MONA    $ 1,819,939    $ 0.050290    36,188,950    $ 1,581    1.10 %    3.20 %    -0.12 %
47    Vcash Vcash    XVC    $ 1,699,275    $ 0.116011    14,647,535    $ 15,927    -1.66 %    1.75 %    0.30 %
48    DNotes DNotes    NOTE    $ 1,674,526    $ 0.015100    110,895,736    $ 40,210    5.62 %    -9.43 %    151.83 %
49    ShadowCash ShadowCash    SDC    $ 1,605,375    $ 0.244804    6,557,799 *    $ 3,451    -2.41 %    0.58 %    9.19 %

[BitcoinNational]

anyone call the Lamiers raising 1/3 of a Billion?
how about EMC?

lack of signal before the noise is signs of CRAP backed by deep pocket books

EMC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1100

[BitcoinNational]

anyone call the Lamiers raising 1/3 of a Billion?
lack of signal before the noise is signs of CRAP backed by deep pocket books

Was i rite or was i RIGHT?


$74M down from $300M
still likely headed to $25M