[XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion

[john-connor]

XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.

I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now... 

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.

the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?and i got it now...they know in their deep mind that Vcash is far more superior than Monero,and this thread is all about a place for FUDing Vcash.

You should rename this the Vcash Masturbation Topic because that's what it is, the usual suspects circle jerking each other off. However, since this thread only exist out of fear these Craptonote Clonejobs have 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited. Piss me off.

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[Gillette]

Oh, finally Vcash clone dev reacted 

[kahir]

XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.

I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now... 

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.

the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?and i got it now...they know in their deep mind that Vcash is far more superior than Monero,and this thread is all about a place for FUDing Vcash.

You should rename this the Vcash Masturbation Topic because that's what it is, the usual suspects circle jerking each other off. However, since this thread only exist out of fear these Craptonote Clonejobs have 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited. Piss me off.

woooh cryptographic cyper wars? 

[smooth]

Sorry guys, i created a new thread yet another Vcash scamming-and-pumping self-moderated thread

FTFY

Good news is we have this nice unmoderated thread to discuss Vcash, open to everyone without selective deletes.

[pseudonymdude]

Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a specific port and the only coin other than BTC that Poloniex only requires 1 confirmation for.  Even if you don't understand what john's doing, you must have some agenda for attacking the coin with clear innovations when there are so many pointless clones worth more.

[smooth]

Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a specific port and the only coin other than BTC that Poloniex only requires 1 confirmation for.  Even if you don't understand what john's doing, you must have some agenda for attacking the coin with clear innovations when there are so many pointless clones worth more.

I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?

[x1337]

I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?

The average Joe shouldn't have to mess with his port configuration, "let the code handle it" to quote the man.

[smooth]

I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?

The average Joe shouldn't have to mess with his port configuration, "let the code handle it" to quote the man.

I agree, but the average Joe is not using crypto today, and won't for some time to come. This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed. If I recall correctly, Bittorrent used to use a fixed port and when that port started getting blocked, clients changed to a random port. Port blocking didn't kill Bittorrent, so claiming that Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a port seems like a bit of hype to me.

[x1337]

This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed.

Yet they are waiting for the train wreck to come before moving while Vcash is getting ready, scalable and future-proof.

[smooth]

This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed.

Yet they are waiting for the train wreck to come before moving while Vcash is getting ready, scalable and future-proof.

You haven't answered how blocking a port is a train wreck. Your node stops working so you either change the port setting or download an update. Did port blocking kill Bittorrent?

[x1337]

You haven't answered how blocking a port is a train wreck. Your node stops working so you either change the port setting or download an update. Did port blocking kill Bittorrent?

Well you didn't ask, having your network in such a state could be considered a "train wreck", yes. Anyway, the attack didn't kill Bittorrent because devs were reactive and deployed a patch fast, i do believe it is better to address potential issue beforehand.

Sorry but waiting for an issue to arise until you begin to address it is plain laziness.

[bigfryguy]

Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:50:19 GMT
Deployed 0.4.5 Final
 

Sun, 01 May 2016 06:30:27 GMT
Implementing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Preliminary work on Decentralised Governance architecture.
Bug Fixes
 

Sat, 07 May 2016 23:31:31 GMT
Implementing and Testing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Version 0.4.6 is entering QA stage.
Bug Fixes
 sorry here are the updates from the last month or so...  said i would come back and post these.


Sat, 14 May 2016 18:58:48 GMT
Deployed 0.4.6 Beta
Implementing and Testing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Bug Fixes
 


New
Sat, 21 May 2016 20:32:24 GMT
Performing Pre-QA cleanup of ZeroLedger implementation.
Bug Fixes
 

[john-connor]

Haters are going to hate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481494.60  

[Gillette]

Oh, the scam coin XVC opened another moderated thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504342.0

Only newbie accounts are promoting it 

[rickgejr]

Was this inquiry ever settled?

Did Vcash (formerly Vanilla) use Bitcoin code, even in part, without indicating that they did so?

Was there ever an audit conducted by an disinterested, independent, public organization?

I mean the Vcash wallet seems to work well and is fast, but is that the only measure here?

[smooth]

Did Vcash (formerly Vanilla) use Bitcoin code, even in part, without indicating that they did so?

It clearly did. Some people care, some don't. Make up your own mind.

[rickgejr]

It clearly did. Some people care, some don't. Make up your own mind.

Are there any independent witnesses of the non-anonymous type?

Credible verification from reliable sources?

Can anyone point me to a good link, legit review from CoinDesk etc.

The many sites I perused just regurgitate the Vcash party line.

[smooth]

It clearly did. Some people care, some don't. Make up your own mind.

Are there any independent witnesses of the non-anonymous type?

Credible verification from reliable sources?

Can anyone point me to a good link, legit review from CoinDesk etc.

The many sites I perused just regurgitate the Vcash party line.

Non-anonymous Greg Maxwell (gmaxwell on here) posted about some of it. I think some of the others who likewise posted (including possibly those quoted in the link reachable from my forum trust review of john-connor) may also be non-anonymous. Reliable? Who knows. It seems everyone in crypto is either a hero or a troll depending on who you ask.

I don't know if Coindesk has covered ever Vcash. If they have it quite likely would be a paid submission, and I say this not as a slam on Vcash but because Coindesk generally doesn't cover any of the smaller coins unless they are paid for it. (http://www.coindesk.com/press-release-submission/about/)

[rickgejr]

With the Greg Maxwell report, plus the deletions by Vcash on other threads and the attitude of John-Connor...

Mind made up.

[bitcoin carpenter]

With the Greg Maxwell report, plus the deletions by Vcash on other threads and the attitude of John-Connor...

Mind made up.

I'm always amazed when I come to bitcointalk to check on vcash to find its only smooth sitting in here answerring questions..

You all know that he has been an opponent to vcash from the beginning don't you

Actual announcement thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504342.0