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December 15, 2016, 02:01:46 PM
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Quote from Huey in Slack in regard to his past involvements:

"Just fyi my and others involvement in xpy was that of a we bought a ton of it and we're scamed
We didn't run it.. design it... launch it.. or profit from it.
We tried to help salvage it yes.. but that was doomed from the start"

why not tell the whole story Huey? Why didn't you explain to the user how deeply engrained with GAW you were? How awesome you thought Josh and GAW were?  Per an archived post around here somewhere, Huey basically declared his allegiance to GAW and gave the XPY project credibility. Saying it was real and he met the GAW team and he has no reservations about XPY and GAW.  But wait, he just said he knew it was doomed from the start. Welcome to the contradiction train fellas.

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As you are quoting out of context, i will tell your full story.

This was huey's response from someone who did HIS OWN research and came to certain conclusions.

If you quote someone without asking permission, please be sure you do it right. Also I think you are expressing your opinion while you try to make it look factual, but in fact it is really vague "Per an archived post around here somewhere". I would suggest not jumping conclusions if you are not sure.

Can you quote what source you use to conclude he was more involved than what he says he is?

Alltheshort kindly linked it for me. See it in the post above you. You will see where he states that he believes in GAW and what they weee doing, yet today stated he knew it was doomed from the start. Which is it?

Here it is directly: http://archive.is/pEsCb#selection-773.1-811.54

Please explain how what he said today is not in complete contradiction to what he said in this archived post. That enough sources for you or would do you need me to post the exact screen shot of Huey saying it, just in case I spelled a word wrong?

Thanks for sharing! I understand the contradiction, but I don't see how this has to be a lie. Also he makes very clear he has been a "customer". I think it is good if we could agree on that.

How can having faith in GAW and the project and declaring it for all to read on Hashtalk be the same as knowing it was doomed from the start?  Could you explain how you don't think this has to be a lie?

Customer, agreed.

I think what he means is that (with the benefit of hindsight) the attempt XPY.io made to salvage paycoin post-Garza was doomed from the start.

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December 15, 2016, 04:05:50 PM
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Not being smart enough to realize GAW was a scam from the start AND getting as deeply invested as he did is not a good thing for someone claiming to be able to do what he is claiming to be able to do.

None of that changes the fact that xpybits or whatever team or foundation he was part of after Garza ran away was a complete failure.
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Thanks for sharing! I understand the contradiction, but I don't see how this has to be a lie. Also he makes very clear he has been a "customer". I think it is good if we could agree on that.

How can having faith in GAW and the project and declaring it for all to read on Hashtalk be the same as knowing it was doomed from the start?  Could you explain how you don't think this has to be a lie?

Customer, agreed.

I think what he means is that (with the benefit of hindsight) the attempt XPY.io made to salvage paycoin post-Garza was doomed from the start.

Which he still attempted even though everyone else except the ~100 or so hardcore XPY bagholders had already realized that it's a bad idea.

How that (not to mention having bought "a ton" of XPY to begin with) never bothers ionomy bagholders is still a great source of amusement to me. It looks more like a gambling addiction than a business plan at this time. Let's buy some shitcoin, oops we got scammed. Let's try to resuscitate said shitcoin, oops that was doomed. Let's start another project, oops we can't deliver on time or communicate or register a business. But let's keep asking for money cuz those slackers love giving it to us. Amazeballs.

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I should post this, with respect to rdewilde stating to not quote out of contect. I did also read in that Slack conversation that Huey and the Ionomy team were going to make more information public, which is a step in the right direction. I do feel that they damaged the project heavily by not releasing that transparent information in the beginning.

But any form of transparency is better than none.

With respect, poor communication and transparency have been points that have consistently been brought up both by people here and their own users on their slack and forums going back to XPY.io. Every few months they say 'we'll try and do better!' and then a further three months will pass without any official information.

Whilst I'm sure the subscribers to Ionomy appreciate the gesture, i very much doubt they will be better in the future.
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December 15, 2016, 07:58:30 PM
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I am super curious if Ionomy is expecting to pay tax on their ICO. Why or why not? At the time of their ICO, there was no registered company in Singapore. To my knowledge there is still no registered company.

Has the team explained this previously?
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I should post this, with respect to rdewilde stating to not quote out of contect. I did also read in that Slack conversation that Huey and the Ionomy team were going to make more information public, which is a step in the right direction. I do feel that they damaged the project heavily by not releasing that transparent information in the beginning.

But any form of transparency is better than none.

With respect, poor communication and transparency has been a point that has consistently been brought up both by people here and their own users on their slack and forums going back to XPY.io. Every few months they say 'we'll try and do better!' and then a further three months will pass without any official information.

Whilst I'm sure the subscribers to Ionomy appreciate the gesture, i very much doubt they will be better in the future.

I think mharter is giving them the benefit of the doubt, which I don't agree with. As you just illustrated, the proof is in the pudding. They have said they will be more transparent many times but fail to do so.

Edit: and that post is deleted. I guess he/she didn't want to give them the benefit of the doubt after all.

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December 15, 2016, 08:51:58 PM
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I should post this, with respect to rdewilde stating to not quote out of contect. I did also read in that Slack conversation that Huey and the Ionomy team were going to make more information public, which is a step in the right direction. I do feel that they damaged the project heavily by not releasing that transparent information in the beginning.

But any form of transparency is better than none.

With respect, poor communication and transparency has been a point that has consistently been brought up both by people here and their own users on their slack and forums going back to XPY.io. Every few months they say 'we'll try and do better!' and then a further three months will pass without any official information.

Whilst I'm sure the subscribers to Ionomy appreciate the gesture, i very much doubt they will be better in the future.

I think mharter is giving them the benefit of the doubt, which I don't agree with. As you just illustrated, the proof is in the pudding. They have said they will be more transparent many times but fail to do so.

Edit: and that post is deleted. I guess he/she didn't want to give them the benefit of the doubt after all.

I deleted it cause I didn't want to get involved in an argument.
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December 15, 2016, 08:55:48 PM
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Quote from Huey in Slack in regard to his past involvements:

"Just fyi my and others involvement in xpy was that of a we bought a ton of it and we're scamed
We didn't run it.. design it... launch it.. or profit from it.
We tried to help salvage it yes.. but that was doomed from the start"

why not tell the whole story Huey? Why didn't you explain to the user how deeply engrained with GAW you were? How awesome you thought Josh and GAW were?  Per an archived post around here somewhere, Huey basically declared his allegiance to GAW and gave the XPY project credibility. Saying it was real and he met the GAW team and he has no reservations about XPY and GAW.  But wait, he just said he knew it was doomed from the start. Welcome to the contradiction train fellas.

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As you are quoting out of context, i will tell your full story.

This was huey's response from someone who did HIS OWN research and came to certain conclusions.

If you quote someone without asking permission, please be sure you do it right. Also I think you are expressing your opinion while you try to make it look factual, but in fact it is really vague "Per an archived post around here somewhere". I would suggest not jumping conclusions if you are not sure.

Can you quote what source you use to conclude he was more involved than what he says he is?

Alltheshort kindly linked it for me. See it in the post above you. You will see where he states that he believes in GAW and what they weee doing, yet today stated he knew it was doomed from the start. Which is it?

Here it is directly: http://archive.is/pEsCb#selection-773.1-811.54

Please explain how what he said today is not in complete contradiction to what he said in this archived post. That enough sources for you or would do you need me to post the exact screen shot of Huey saying it, just in case I spelled a word wrong?

Thanks for sharing! I understand the contradiction, but I don't see how this has to be a lie. Also he makes very clear he has been a "customer". I think it is good if we could agree on that.

How can having faith in GAW and the project and declaring it for all to read on Hashtalk be the same as knowing it was doomed from the start?  Could you explain how you don't think this has to be a lie?

Customer, agreed.
If Huey was just a "customer" of GAW, why did he use the titles "GAW Founder" and "Paycoin Innovator" on Hashtalk? http://archive.is/pEsCb#selection-773.1-811.54

 
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I should post this, with respect to rdewilde stating to not quote out of contect. I did also read in that Slack conversation that Huey and the Ionomy team were going to make more information public, which is a step in the right direction. I do feel that they damaged the project heavily by not releasing that transparent information in the beginning.

But any form of transparency is better than none.

With respect, poor communication and transparency has been a point that has consistently been brought up both by people here and their own users on their slack and forums going back to XPY.io. Every few months they say 'we'll try and do better!' and then a further three months will pass without any official information.

Whilst I'm sure the subscribers to Ionomy appreciate the gesture, i very much doubt they will be better in the future.

I think mharter is giving them the benefit of the doubt, which I don't agree with. As you just illustrated, the proof is in the pudding. They have said they will be more transparent many times but fail to do so.

Edit: and that post is deleted. I guess he/she didn't want to give them the benefit of the doubt after all.

I deleted it cause I didn't want to get involved in an argument.

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December 15, 2016, 09:16:06 PM
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I should post this, with respect to rdewilde stating to not quote out of contect. I did also read in that Slack conversation that Huey and the Ionomy team were going to make more information public, which is a step in the right direction. I do feel that they damaged the project heavily by not releasing that transparent information in the beginning.

But any form of transparency is better than none.

With respect, poor communication and transparency has been a point that has consistently been brought up both by people here and their own users on their slack and forums going back to XPY.io. Every few months they say 'we'll try and do better!' and then a further three months will pass without any official information.

Whilst I'm sure the subscribers to Ionomy appreciate the gesture, i very much doubt they will be better in the future.

I think mharter is giving them the benefit of the doubt, which I don't agree with. As you just illustrated, the proof is in the pudding. They have said they will be more transparent many times but fail to do so.

Edit: and that post is deleted. I guess he/she didn't want to give them the benefit of the doubt after all.

I deleted it cause I didn't want to get involved in an argument.

My apologies, I wasn't looking to argue with you. I agree that more transparency and better communication would be great, but I genuinely don't think they'll deliver that when we've gone this far into the project already.
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December 15, 2016, 09:20:50 PM
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Quote from Huey in Slack in regard to his past involvements:

"Just fyi my and others involvement in xpy was that of a we bought a ton of it and we're scamed
We didn't run it.. design it... launch it.. or profit from it.
We tried to help salvage it yes.. but that was doomed from the start"

why not tell the whole story Huey? Why didn't you explain to the user how deeply engrained with GAW you were? How awesome you thought Josh and GAW were?  Per an archived post around here somewhere, Huey basically declared his allegiance to GAW and gave the XPY project credibility. Saying it was real and he met the GAW team and he has no reservations about XPY and GAW.  But wait, he just said he knew it was doomed from the start. Welcome to the contradiction train fellas.

Buy moar ION, Ask MrCoins for advice. Eh, just save a mind numbing conversation and just buy more ION than you can afford!

As you are quoting out of context, i will tell your full story.

This was huey's response from someone who did HIS OWN research and came to certain conclusions.

If you quote someone without asking permission, please be sure you do it right. Also I think you are expressing your opinion while you try to make it look factual, but in fact it is really vague "Per an archived post around here somewhere". I would suggest not jumping conclusions if you are not sure.

Can you quote what source you use to conclude he was more involved than what he says he is?

Alltheshort kindly linked it for me. See it in the post above you. You will see where he states that he believes in GAW and what they weee doing, yet today stated he knew it was doomed from the start. Which is it?

Here it is directly: http://archive.is/pEsCb#selection-773.1-811.54

Please explain how what he said today is not in complete contradiction to what he said in this archived post. That enough sources for you or would do you need me to post the exact screen shot of Huey saying it, just in case I spelled a word wrong?

Thanks for sharing! I understand the contradiction, but I don't see how this has to be a lie. Also he makes very clear he has been a "customer". I think it is good if we could agree on that.

How can having faith in GAW and the project and declaring it for all to read on Hashtalk be the same as knowing it was doomed from the start?  Could you explain how you don't think this has to be a lie?

Customer, agreed.
If Huey was just a "customer" of GAW, why did he use the titles "GAW Founder" and "Paycoin Innovator" on Hashtalk? http://archive.is/pEsCb#selection-773.1-811.54

These were just titles handed out to people who invested in GAW or contributed to the community in the days of hashtalk, if I remember correctly. They don't mean that he was literally the founder of GAW, though I can totally understand the confusion. As with most of these things, there are numerous terms and phrases used within the community that make sense largely only to the community itself.

The 'founder' title lives on in Ionomy, by the way.
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I am super curious if Ionomy is expecting to pay tax on their ICO. Why or why not? At the time of their ICO, there was no registered company in Singapore. To my knowledge there is still no registered company.

Has the team explained this previously?

I'm sure korvas will be stopping by to "explain" that there are jurisdictions with no taxes and/or it doesn't need to bother us "cuz business secret"  Grin

Seriously though, they could probably blow those ICO funds into expenses or offset with their prior XPY losses if the hell freezes over and they want to play it legit.

These were just titles handed out to people who invested in GAW or contributed to the community in the days of hashtalk, if I remember correctly. They don't mean that he was literally the founder of GAW, though I can totally understand the confusion. As with most of these things, there are numerous terms and phrases used within the community that make sense largely only to the community itself.

The 'founder' title lives on in Ionomy, by the way.

GAW Founder was a badge for early customers. Paycoin Innovator was a bit more than that, basically you had to lick Homero's ass really hard to get there. It was a replacement for Paycoin Origin, which was more of a merit badge for contributions to Paycoin whitepaper, but once many Origin people abandoned ship Homero decided to reward some remaining shills and other assorted trash with the "Innovator" badge (himself being of course the "Industry Innovator").

For example - Bitcoin-bar and MrCoins were "innovators".

https://archive.is/GUurB

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December 15, 2016, 09:52:33 PM
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The volume of trade is too low.

It it bad situation.

The communitiy of this project needs something to do.


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December 15, 2016, 09:56:45 PM
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I am super curious if Ionomy is expecting to pay tax on their ICO. Why or why not? At the time of their ICO, there was no registered company in Singapore. To my knowledge there is still no registered company.

Has the team explained this previously?

I'm sure korvas will be stopping by to "explain" that there are jurisdictions with no taxes and/or it doesn't need to bother us "cuz business secret"  Grin

Seriously though, they could probably blow those ICO funds into expenses or offset with their prior XPY losses if the hell freezes over and they want to play it legit.

These were just titles handed out to people who invested in GAW or contributed to the community in the days of hashtalk, if I remember correctly. They don't mean that he was literally the founder of GAW, though I can totally understand the confusion. As with most of these things, there are numerous terms and phrases used within the community that make sense largely only to the community itself.

The 'founder' title lives on in Ionomy, by the way.

GAW Founder was a badge for early customers. Paycoin Innovator was a bit more than that, basically you had to lick Homero's ass really hard to get there. It was a replacement for Paycoin Origin, which was more of a merit badge for contributions to Paycoin whitepaper, but once many Origin people abandoned ship Homero decided to reward some remaining shills and other assorted trash with the "Innovator" badge (himself being of course the "Industry Innovator").

For example - Bitcoin-bar and MrCoins were "innovators".

https://archive.is/GUurB

Thanks, that's pretty much what I remembered, but I couldn't find the archive -- kudos for finding that one so quick.
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December 16, 2016, 12:29:43 AM
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ionomy Corporate Move

Hello BCT ionomy,

 ionomy has relocated its corporate headquarters!

 Effective December 2016, ionomy established its Corporate Headquarters in the Republic of Seychelles.

Ionomy Limited
 Global Gateway 8 Rue de la perle
 Providence, Mahe, Seychelles

Registration Number: 189524

 ionomy relocated from Singapore to Seychelles for two reasons. First, Seychelles offers a more responsive administrative environment. Second, the regulatory landscape of Seychelles better facilitates ionomy’s plans for future enterprises. Additional consideration was made to protect our users privacy as the regulatory environment in Singapore has become more constricted in regard to Digital Currency startups and operations.

What does this mean for you?

 This move does not affect current day-to-day operations.

 ionomy has updated the terms of service to reflect the new Corporate Headquarters location. In the coming days, you will be prompted to review the new terms and must acknowledge this change to continue using the ionomy platform and its services.

 Rest assured, you will not experience any impact to the use of the platform.

 Regards,

 The ionomy team

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December 16, 2016, 12:37:13 AM
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ionomy Corporate Move

Hello BCT ionomy,

 ionomy has relocated its corporate headquarters!

 Effective December 2016, ionomy established its Corporate Headquarters in the Republic of Seychelles.

Ionomy Limited
 Global Gateway 8 Rue de la perle
 Providence, Mahe, Seychelles

Registration Number: 189524

 ionomy relocated from Singapore to Seychelles for two reasons. First, Seychelles offers a more responsive administrative environment. Second, the regulatory landscape of Seychelles better facilitates ionomy’s plans for future enterprises. Additional consideration was made to protect our users privacy as the regulatory environment in Singapore has become more constricted in regard to Digital Currency startups and operations.

What does this mean for you?

 This move does not affect current day-to-day operations.

 ionomy has updated the terms of service to reflect the new Corporate Headquarters location. In the coming days, you will be prompted to review the new terms and must acknowledge this change to continue using the ionomy platform and its services.

 Rest assured, you will not experience any impact to the use of the platform.

 Regards,

 The ionomy team


Of course no impact because it was never in Singapore to begin with  Grin

It's not in Seychelles either, registering or buying a shell company doesn't involve any "relocation".

But at least there is a registration number. Sadly https://eservice.egov.sc seems to be broken but if it comes back up we'll have something we can verify.

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December 16, 2016, 12:45:54 AM
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ionomy Corporate Move

Hello BCT ionomy,

 ionomy has relocated its corporate headquarters!

 Effective December 2016, ionomy established its Corporate Headquarters in the Republic of Seychelles.

Ionomy Limited
 Global Gateway 8 Rue de la perle
 Providence, Mahe, Seychelles

Registration Number: 189524

 ionomy relocated from Singapore to Seychelles for two reasons. First, Seychelles offers a more responsive administrative environment. Second, the regulatory landscape of Seychelles better facilitates ionomy’s plans for future enterprises. Additional consideration was made to protect our users privacy as the regulatory environment in Singapore has become more constricted in regard to Digital Currency startups and operations.

What does this mean for you?

 This move does not affect current day-to-day operations.

 ionomy has updated the terms of service to reflect the new Corporate Headquarters location. In the coming days, you will be prompted to review the new terms and must acknowledge this change to continue using the ionomy platform and its services.

 Rest assured, you will not experience any impact to the use of the platform.

 Regards,

 The ionomy team


Of course no impact because it was never in Singapore to begin with  Grin

It's not in Seychelles either, registering or buying a shell company doesn't involve any "relocation".

But at least there is a registration number. Sadly https://eservice.egov.sc seems to be broken but if it comes back up we'll have something we can verify.

@suchmoon Chill back and have a drink to celebrate progress in the Ionomy...

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December 16, 2016, 01:17:29 AM
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@suchmoon Chill back and have a drink to celebrate progress in the Ionomy...

I'm celebrating pretty much non-stop since April. Many progress. Wow excite.

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