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[CryptoBuds]

ION,Atoms & Electrons are an element of a bigger picture that the devs most definitely won't be sharing on this forum.... wonder why  

Sorry, but in my opinion that's an incredibly stupid statement. It's not a good thing that Ionomy is hiding so much information. The lack of transpareny is the main reason why everyone should stay away from ION.

I think to get the "transparent" aspect of ION, you have to give them a bunch of your BTC to show your trust, then you'll get the transparent info. It's the new, innovative way they are doing things.

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[kken01]

maybe its like scientology. you have to pay again to gain a new level of access   only the very top 1-3 people know the full extent of the incompetence and/or scam
/s

here is a post by sharkie few months before launch. the high command of ionomy

[Franz_Huber]

Pickup some Atoms today at the live auction and become a Founder or Whale...

No thanks. You can keep your off-blockchain tokens.

[WildShark]

maybe its like scientology. you have to pay again to gain a new level of access  only the very top 1-3 people know the full extent of the incompetence and/or scam
/s

here is a post by sharkie few months before launch. the high command of ionomy

Here is a current version of the Community Leaderboard:


There are now 8 Whales (investor holding 5K+ of Atoms) in Ionomy and hold 47.5% of the Total Atoms. The Founders (investor holding 1K+ of Atoms) holding 25% of the Total Atoms. Each Atoms produces 1/10 of an Electron per day. Electrons are used to double the rate of earning on an Ionomy Staker. Electrons can also be used in Ionomy Games as a resource that has value to them.

Being a Whale or Founder entitles the investor to provide input into the direction of the Ionomy Vision and get reduced rates on Ionomy services. They also get early access to the Ionomy games to provide alpha and beta testing of the new Ionomy capabilities.

Pickup some Atoms today at the live auction and become a Founder or Whale...
https://ionomy.com/auction/atoms

You can start small and become a Member when you hold 100+ Atoms...

[Franz_Huber]

There are now 8 Whales (investor holding 5K+ of Atoms) in Ionomy and hold 47.5% of the Total Atoms. The Founders (investor holding 1K+ of Atoms) holding 25% of the Total Atoms.

Cute.

[CryptoBuds]

maybe its like scientology. you have to pay again to gain a new level of access   only the very top 1-3 people know the full extent of the incompetence and/or scam
/s

here is a post by sharkie few months before launch. the high command of ionomy

Here is a current version of the Community Leaderboard:


There are now 8 Whales (investor holding 5K+ of Atoms) in Ionomy and hold 47.5% of the Total Atoms. The Founders (investor holding 1K+ of Atoms) holding 25% of the Total Atoms. Each Atoms produces 1/10 of an Electron per day. Electrons are used to double the rate of earning on an Ionomy Staker. Electrons can also be used in Ionomy Games as a resource that has value to them.

Being a Whale or Founder entitles the investor to provide input into the direction of the Ionomy Vision and get reduced rates on Ionomy services. They also get early access to the Ionomy games to provide alpha and beta testing of the new Ionomy capabilities.

Pickup some Atoms today at the live auction and become a Founder or Whale...
https://ionomy.com/auction/atoms

You can start small and become a Member when you hold 100+ Atoms...

Being a "pay to be a whale" whale gives you a license to shill while providing no facts as well. I don't care about facts either, that's why I lost almost 7 figures in scams. I'm gonna keep up with the blind faith, it's gonna pay off for me eventually!

[kken01]

with that explanation they are totally not securities in usa or singapore  sharkie you are not towing the team line: they are just loyalty points with no expected returns. its funny that the team thinks this kind of maneuvering changes the nature of atoms. even the top 2 guy expects returns

[korvas128]

with that explanation they are totally not securities in usa or singapore  sharkie you are not towing the team line: they are just loyalty points with no expected returns. its funny that the team thinks this kind of maneuvering changes the nature of atoms. even the top 2 guy expects returns

What do you mean the top 2 guys expect rewards don't you think it's 100% of the people that own atoms expect a return for ownership

[kken01]

What do you mean the top 2 guys expect rewards don't you think it's 100% of the people that own atoms expect a return for ownership

yes obviously and anyone else saying otherwise is lying. but your ionomy dev team disagrees and said its a loyalty program only. a weak attempt at skirting around securities laws

[o0o0]

What do you mean the top 2 guys expect rewards don't you think it's 100% of the people that own atoms expect a return for ownership

yes obviously and anyone else saying otherwise is lying. but your ionomy dev team disagrees and said its a loyalty program only. a weak attempt at skirting around securities laws

Aren't loyalty rewards themselves for stores treated as such and not securities on the very fact you can't transfer / sell / donate etc to other people they are loyalty rewards to yourself and yourself only to be used on future purchases?

If ionomy dev was serious in that they are a loyalty program "only" then should they not shut their atom / electron whatever market down as you can't "sell" or "trade" loyalty tokens?

[korvas128]

What do you mean the top 2 guys expect rewards don't you think it's 100% of the people that own atoms expect a return for ownership

yes obviously and anyone else saying otherwise is lying. but your ionomy dev team disagrees and said its a loyalty program only. a weak attempt at skirting around securities laws

Aren't loyalty rewards themselves for stores treated as such and not securities on the very fact you can't transfer / sell / donate etc to other people they are loyalty rewards to yourself and yourself only to be used on future purchases?

If ionomy dev was serious in that they are a loyalty program "only" then should they not shut their atom / electron whatever market down as you can't "sell" or "trade" loyalty tokens?

Did the devs say it was part of a loyalty program ? Interesting point though what would you class an atom as.

An atom is something you can buy & sell. An Atom produces a daily supply of electrons. At the moment electrons can be used for boosting a staker or ingame to purchase stuff.

100K Atoms were created and that's it no more. Atoms were once XPYBits and XPYBits were created fund to XPY.io development.

If I sell you an Atom am I also selling a chunk of loyalty

So what is an Atom ? I don't know what you would class it as does but I know owning one delivers tangible benefits.

[WildShark]

So what is an Atom ? I don't know what you would class it as does but I know owning one delivers tangible benefits.

I do know that owning 5220 Atoms boost over 20K of Ionomy stakers to twice their rate...

@suchmoon Why would I be selling my Atoms when I'm am using them in to produce Electrons for my Ionomy stakers and making twice my earnings (free coins)? I also need 5000 Atoms to stay in the Whale's Club or loose my Whale privileges and access to the Secret Information...

Join the Ionomy and pickup a few/available Atoms at the Ionomy Live Auction @ https://ionomy.com/auction/atoms

[kken01]

Atoms. In relation to Atoms based crowdfunding you acknowledge that your contribution (whether financial or otherwise) does not entitle you to any rights, including any ownership, control or intellectual property rights. Atoms is not a company share offering, but a loyalty and services program specialised to work within the Ionomy.com platform to reward its loyal members and help fund the development of the Ionomy.com services.

ref: http://archive.is/IxsVs#selection-1081.0-1083.426

actually you dont own anything  all that word play is meaningless when the public perspective is what it is. everyone is expecting returns

[Franz_Huber]

I also need 5000 Atoms to stay in the Whale's Club or loose my Whale privileges and access to the Secret Information...

Ooooh, you have Secret Information that others (non-whales) don't get. I can see how this creates a lot of trust with potential investors and will make ION a raging success. /s

[CryptoBuds]

I also need 5000 Atoms to stay in the Whale's Club or loose my Whale privileges and access to the Secret Information...

Ooooh, you have Secret Information that others (non-whales) don't get. I can see how this creates a lot of trust with potential investors and will make ION a raging success. /s

Again, insider information and insider trading potential. Awesome business model, pay to be elite.

[suchmoon]

So what is an Atom ? I don't know what you would class it as does but I know owning one delivers tangible benefits.

I do know that owning 5220 Atoms boost over 20K of Ionomy stakers to twice their rate...

@suchmoon Why would I be selling my Atoms when I'm am using them in to produce Electrons for my Ionomy stakers and making twice my earnings (free coins)? I also need 5000 Atoms to stay in the Whale's Club or loose my Whale privileges and access to the Secret Information...

Join the Ionomy and pickup a few/available Atoms at the Ionomy Live Auction @ https://ionomy.com/auction/atoms

Sharkie, you're not as smart as even the dumbest penny stock pumpers. You've been trying to shill ION up while dumping it, Occam says you're likely to do the same with atoms. There is no other benefit for you to get anyone else to buy into it other than to dump on them. Just like there is no benefit for any masternode owners to want more people to buy masternodes etc. This 50-person "ecosystem" is getting very tight with this stupid inflation, isn't it?

And I bet the team greatly appreciates an unlicensed investment advisor peddling their unregistered securities. There is probably some country where that's legal so it's all cool, right?

[CryptoBuds]

And I bet the team greatly appreciates an unlicensed investment advisor peddling their unregistered securities. There is probably some country where that's legal so it's all cool, right?

@suchmoon Where's your proof that Atoms are unregistered securities? The Ionomy team has openly said that Atoms are not a securities... You should update your Bitcoin ION FAQ to include the real answer...

Join the Ionomy today and get into the investment game early...

Just because they say they are no securities doesn't mean it to be true. If the ION team was intelligent they would consult a financial guru to ensure that Atoms aren't structured like securities. They sure function like them. They're not loyalty based as they can be sold or transferred. It would be good to be on top of this but the team instead seems to be more focused on obfuscation and skirting the lines. They just want BTC. For BTC being so shitty, they sure want a bunch of it.

If the Ionomy team tells you the sky is purple, is that the case then? See what I'm saying? All words and nothing to back it up. Keep on shilling, you're pure entertainment.

[WildShark]

And I bet the team greatly appreciates an unlicensed investment advisor peddling their unregistered securities. There is probably some country where that's legal so it's all cool, right?

@suchmoon Where's your proof that Atoms are unregistered securities? The Ionomy team has openly said that Atoms are not a securities... You should update your Bitcoin ION FAQ to include the real answer that Ionomy non-blockchain tokens are not securities...

Q: What is ionomy?
A: Mainly an online wallet for ION and an ION/BTC exchange, with some non-blockchain features such as atoms, electrons, and stakers.

Q: Are community masternodes, atoms, or any other ionomy tokens considered securities in the US or Singapore?
A: The team did not provide any details.


15 U.S.C. §78c(a)(10)
(10) The term “security” means any note, stock, treasury stock, security future, security-based swap, bond, debenture, certificate of interest or participation in any profit-sharing agreement or in any oil, gas, or other mineral royalty or lease, any collateral-trust certificate, preorganization certificate or subscription, transferable share, investment contract, voting-trust certificate, certificate of deposit for a security, any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege on any security, certificate of deposit, or group or index of securities (including any interest therein or based on the value thereof), or any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege entered into on a national securities exchange relating to foreign currency, or in general, any instrument commonly known as a “security”; or any certificate of interest or participation in, temporary or interim certificate for, receipt for, or warrant or right to subscribe to or purchase, any of the foregoing; but shall not include currency or any note, draft, bill of exchange, or banker’s acceptance which has a maturity at the time of issuance of not exceeding nine months, exclusive of days of grace, or any renewal thereof the maturity of which is likewise limited.

corresponding part in singaporean law 17 §03(b)


Join the Ionomy today and get into the ION investment game early...

[CryptoBuds]

How are Atoms not securities then? Atoms were XPYBits. Where XPYBits not a form of profit sharing? You were giving the team funds to help with the business to later be rewarded. Am I missing something?

[korvas128]

Atoms. In relation to Atoms based crowdfunding you acknowledge that your contribution (whether financial or otherwise) does not entitle you to any rights, including any ownership, control or intellectual property rights. Atoms is not a company share offering, but a loyalty and services program specialised to work within the Ionomy.com platform to reward its loyal members and help fund the development of the Ionomy.com services.

ref: http://archive.is/IxsVs#selection-1081.0-1083.426

actually you dont own anything  all that word play is meaningless when the public perspective is what it is. everyone is expecting returns

I too have read the T's & C's...was a while ago though.

I would expect any reputable company to have T's & C's that limit their exposure..... I bet all reputable companies YOU deal with have a similar approach.

For me their T's & C's aren't a problem