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December 11, 2017, 08:09:31 PM |
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Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!!
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WildShark
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December 11, 2017, 09:31:22 PM |
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To the Moon!!!
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December 12, 2017, 12:21:26 AM |
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Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer
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December 12, 2017, 01:12:28 AM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:36:35 PM by suchmoon |
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Nice pump sharkie. Did you do it yourself or do you just shill for the other "whales"? Here is the full picture for context: Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken imageion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer
Yeah but it's slow and obsolete... Speaking of which, I found some litecoins between sofa cushions... I'm so sad I didn't dump them last year to invest into ION ICO... LOL.
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WildShark
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December 12, 2017, 08:18:20 AM |
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Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!!
https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april
bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60
20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer my only claim was that holders of ION at ICO time have made more than 6 times their initial investment( USD a buck and a half). Use the accurate chart below to validate my numbers:
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December 12, 2017, 08:23:38 AM |
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Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer my only claim was that holders of ION at ICO time have made more than 6 times their initial investment( USD a buck and a half). Use the accurate chart below to validate my numbers: and others have stated they would of lost profit when switching to ion which you try to state as false. the fact is ion would of lost them profits converting
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December 12, 2017, 10:39:32 AM |
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Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer Your painting a worse case scenario of not making enough profit...... If you could you would show a loss but you can't In the land of POS running a node is like running a POW miner the differences being your node has increased in value, doesn't cost a chunk of money to run and after 21 months your stake reward isn't dust. From May 2016 I could show you a calculation that shows your profitability if you converted half your daily stake reward into BTC and you staked the rest. This would show significant gain but it's something I don't have the time to do. Think about it though, how many $4,000 invests made in April 2016 still deliver this kind of return. http://ion.nodes4u.com/Bottomline is ION WAS a great investment, IS a great investment & WILL be a great investment
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December 12, 2017, 10:53:37 AM Last edit: December 12, 2017, 11:05:03 AM by o0o0 |
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korvas the difference is a loss. its a profit loss.
had you not of bought ion and instead held btc you would have a lot more. you lost money moving into ion. argue all you want but this is a true fact. wildshark continues to crow on usd profit but btc was and is today better. 6 times to 38 in fact.
do your stats and show the saved btc. prove it in math. use the above btc values and sat prices above. use changes in price from chain stats on price.
if you dont show it then you cannot state its incorrect as you are arguing without numbers. if you cant show this you can not argue me to be incorrect.
also there is no best case scenario for what i said. i simply said buying no ion and holding btc.
if your numbers cannot show an equal in usd value to brc now then it is a loss compared to just holding btc.
use a single masternode in value to make it easy. 1 scales in calcs easy. also adhere to historical volumes.
i personally dont believe it possible. you’ll need to show avg ion generated s day show sell deductions etc in amounts.
also answer this if you consider me painting a worse case scenario. do you agree that holding btc rather than ion was a more profitable investment from ico to now in terms of usd profit?
im not arguing people made money. im arguing people lost profit by moving from btc to ion. do you agree with this statement.
ion will continue to do this. btc will increase in usd and this usd difference will grow. btc has futures and larger crowds moving to it. volumes grow. ion and other alts unless they have large growth bases will not. iin games still scoreboards of what 11-15 people? once app devs incorporate lightning and apps use that how will ion compete and why would people use it with its volumes and slow dev pace.
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December 12, 2017, 03:36:31 PM Last edit: December 12, 2017, 06:24:39 PM by WildShark |
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korvas the difference is a loss. its a profit loss.
had you not of bought ion and instead held btc you would have a lot more. you lost money moving into ion. argue all you want but this is a true fact. wildshark continues to crow on usd profit but btc was and is today better. 6 times to 38 in fact.
do your stats and show the saved btc. prove it in math. use the above btc values and sat prices above. use changes in price from chain stats on price.
if you dont show it then you cannot state its incorrect as you are arguing without numbers. if you cant show this you can not argue me to be incorrect.
also there is no best case scenario for what i said. i simply said buying no ion and holding btc.
if your numbers cannot show an equal in usd value to brc now then it is a loss compared to just holding btc.
use a single masternode in value to make it easy. 1 scales in calcs easy. also adhere to historical volumes.
i personally dont believe it possible. you’ll need to show avg ion generated s day show sell deductions etc in amounts.
also answer this if you consider me painting a worse case scenario. do you agree that holding btc rather than ion was a more profitable investment from ico to now in terms of usd profit?
im not arguing people made money. im arguing people lost profit by moving from btc to ion. do you agree with this statement.
ion will continue to do this. btc will increase in usd and this usd difference will grow. btc has futures and larger crowds moving to it. volumes grow. ion and other alts unless they have large growth bases will not. iin games still scoreboards of what 11-15 people? once app devs incorporate lightning and apps use that how will ion compete and why would people use it with its volumes and slow dev pace.
I'm glad you agree that ION has increase in value from ICO more than six time its value and the data to prove it: The profit value is now over 10 times the ICO price as ION price now hovers over the two dollar mark....
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December 12, 2017, 04:37:42 PM |
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Wow, 12k sat, that's like... only a 75% decline since the ICO. The Blockbuster of shitcoins.
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December 12, 2017, 06:51:01 PM |
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The profit value is now over 10 times the ICO price [/b]as ION price now hovers over the two dollar mark.... Wow, 12k sat, that's like... only a 75% decline since the ICO. The Blockbuster of shitcoins. I'm liking the green USD line... hopefully this will hold at two dollars
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December 12, 2017, 07:37:43 PM |
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korvas the difference is a loss. its a profit loss.
had you not of bought ion and instead held btc you would have a lot more. you lost money moving into ion. argue all you want but this is a true fact. wildshark continues to crow on usd profit but btc was and is today better. 6 times to 38 in fact.
do your stats and show the saved btc. prove it in math. use the above btc values and sat prices above. use changes in price from chain stats on price.
if you dont show it then you cannot state its incorrect as you are arguing without numbers. if you cant show this you can not argue me to be incorrect.
also there is no best case scenario for what i said. i simply said buying no ion and holding btc.
if your numbers cannot show an equal in usd value to brc now then it is a loss compared to just holding btc.
use a single masternode in value to make it easy. 1 scales in calcs easy. also adhere to historical volumes.
i personally dont believe it possible. you’ll need to show avg ion generated s day show sell deductions etc in amounts.
also answer this if you consider me painting a worse case scenario. do you agree that holding btc rather than ion was a more profitable investment from ico to now in terms of usd profit?
im not arguing people made money. im arguing people lost profit by moving from btc to ion. do you agree with this statement.
ion will continue to do this. btc will increase in usd and this usd difference will grow. btc has futures and larger crowds moving to it. volumes grow. ion and other alts unless they have large growth bases will not. iin games still scoreboards of what 11-15 people? once app devs incorporate lightning and apps use that how will ion compete and why would people use it with its volumes and slow dev pace.
I'm glad you agree that ION has increase in value from ICO more than six time its value and the data to prove it: The profit value is now over 10 times the ICO price as ION price now hovers over the two dollar mark.... its lost a lot of bitcoin value. im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
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December 12, 2017, 10:52:46 PM |
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im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
How much profit is there when I sell my "free" IONs for over two bucks a piece (2000%) How much profit will I get by holding the ION profit in BTC?
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December 12, 2017, 11:48:56 PM |
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im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
How much profit is there when I sell my "free" IONs for over two bucks a piece (2000%) How much profit will I get by holding the ION profit in BTC? hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. its good to know that ion got you and others 6 times or 600% where as if you didnt invest today your btc would be 3800% or 3200% more than ion. its good that you agree with the data provided and acknowledge that it would take a long time for that 20,000 masternode to generate the 60,000 extra coins that at todays rate to match the brc value you’d have had you not invested in ion. im glad we can put that matter to rest as the data shows.
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December 13, 2017, 03:15:31 PM |
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im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
How much profit is there when I sell my "free" IONs for over two bucks a piece (2000%) How much profit will I get by holding the ION profit in BTC? hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. its good to know that ion got you and others 6 times or 600% where as if you didnt invest today your btc would be 3800% or 3200% more than ion. its good that you agree with the data provided and acknowledge that it would take a long time for that 20,000 masternode to generate the 60,000 extra coins that at todays rate to match the brc value you’d have had you not invested in ion. im glad we can put that matter to rest as the data shows. Well done for being able to predict the past hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. Your comment pretty much applies to every crypto purchase made in the 1st half of 2016 not just ion. Concerning ION though the party has yet to start so to sell today would be a foolish but profitable mistake.
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December 13, 2017, 03:40:54 PM Last edit: December 13, 2017, 03:55:06 PM by WildShark |
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im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
How much profit is there when I sell my "free" IONs for over two bucks a piece (2000%) How much profit will I get by holding the ION profit in BTC? hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. its good to know that ion got you and others 6 times or 600% where as if you didnt invest today your btc would be 3800% or 3200% more than ion. its good that you agree with the data provided and acknowledge that it would take a long time for that 20,000 masternode to generate the 60,000 extra coins that at todays rate to match the brc value you’d have had you not invested in ion. im glad we can put that matter to rest as the data shows. Well done for being able to predict the past hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. Your comment pretty much applies to every crypto purchase made in the 1st half of 2016 not just ion. Concerning ION though the party has yet to start so to sell today would be a foolish but profitable mistake. @o0o0 I think Korvas hit it on the nail that your computation supports any altcoin with your ability to predict the past. You should enlighten more of the coumminity... the next question for you is... When do you stop holding the Bitcoin? after the bubble bursts maybe convert it to BCC or ETH I still think it's more profitable to convert my "free" IONs to Bitcoin and hold a bit... Why not take advantage of the "free" ION coins when ION price is above two dollars:
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December 13, 2017, 05:23:06 PM |
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Well done for being able to predict the past You might want to reread this thread. You'll likely find plenty of posts by o0o0 and others predicting the future shittyness of ION. Only you dumb paycoiners don't see how incompetent your beloved team is. hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. Your comment pretty much applies to every crypto purchase made in the 1st half of 2016 not just ion. Concerning ION though the party has yet to start so to sell today would be a foolish but profitable mistake. Provably false. ETH price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.02 BTC ETH price in BTC now: 0.04 BTC (100% gain against BTC) LTC price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.009 BTC LTC price in BTC now: 0.018 BTC (100% gain against BTC) DASH price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.015 BTC DASH price in BTC now: 0.053 BTC (200%+ gain against BTC) etc... Source: https://coinmarketcap.com/No Canadian dollar signs here.
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December 13, 2017, 05:52:41 PM Last edit: December 13, 2017, 07:06:40 PM by WildShark |
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Well done for being able to predict the past You might want to reread this thread. You'll likely find plenty of posts by o0o0 and others predicting the future shittyness of ION. Only you dumb paycoiners don't see how incompetent your beloved team is. hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. Your comment pretty much applies to every crypto purchase made in the 1st half of 2016 not just ion. Concerning ION though the party has yet to start so to sell today would be a foolish but profitable mistake. Provably false. ETH price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.02 BTC ETH price in BTC now: 0.04 BTC (100% gain against BTC)LTC price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.009 BTC LTC price in BTC now: 0.018 BTC (100% gain against BTC)
DASH price in BTC at the time of ION ICO: 0.015 BTC DASH price in BTC now: 0.053 BTC (200%+ gain against BTC)
etc... Source: https://coinmarketcap.com/No Canadian dollar signs here. Converting the profit to BCC may be the investment of the future when BTC transaction fees go skyrocketing... I still go on record that the future coin will be POS with mastenode functionality!!!
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December 13, 2017, 08:57:14 PM |
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STOP EDITING OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS YOU BLITHERING IDIOT (I hope the letters are big enough for your reading skill level) While you're at it, maybe get a job Sharkie... and no, posting large screenshots to drown out opponents in your favorite shitcoin thread doesn't count as a job. But I'm glad to see that you agree with ION being a shitty investment compared to the more popular crypto currencies.
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December 13, 2017, 11:00:32 PM |
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im glad you agree people buying ion would have made more money if they just held btc. im glad you agree with the data i posted showing this. i look forward to you agreeing in the future that holding bitcoin was more profitable and continues to be.
How much profit is there when I sell my "free" IONs for over two bucks a piece (2000%) How much profit will I get by holding the ION profit in BTC? hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. its good to know that ion got you and others 6 times or 600% where as if you didnt invest today your btc would be 3800% or 3200% more than ion. its good that you agree with the data provided and acknowledge that it would take a long time for that 20,000 masternode to generate the 60,000 extra coins that at todays rate to match the brc value you’d have had you not invested in ion. im glad we can put that matter to rest as the data shows. Well done for being able to predict the past hi wildshark im glad you continue to agree that by buying ion you and others in ion community lost profit amounts by switching from btc to ion. Your comment pretty much applies to every crypto purchase made in the 1st half of 2016 not just ion. Concerning ION though the party has yet to start so to sell today would be a foolish but profitable mistake. Many including myself said this ages ago so its not predicting the past for your future record this trend will continue. btc will rise and the gap of profit you are losing out on with ion will increase. suchmoon has shown other alts that havent done this. its why crypto success should be compared in satoshi increase not usd as its more comparitative. wildshark refuses to use it as it looks unfavorable. if the btc becomes a bursting bubble ion is worse off brcause the usd drop in btc directly will affect ion hugely. but i suspect wildshark will then abandon usd comparing and go back to satoshi comparison saying it hasnt lost much. the data is there korvas and hard to argue with. the big point of demonstration is wildsharks deliberate misleading by using the angle he wants when it suits him even if its not true.
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