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[suchmoon]

Ah yes that's the thread you setup in November 2016  post what you want it's your thread I don't care

Of all the scams and shitcoins in crypto you decide to pick on a coin that isn't and then spend the next 2.5 yrs trying to justify it....... now that is amusing  oops sorry wrong word, it was amusing a year ago now it's hysterical.

I've "picked on" many scams and many ridiculous shitcoins, don't feel so special. If you and your fellow paycoiners didn't lie so much you wouldn't be so much fun to "pick on", so thank you for that.

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[tuanbct95]

How many years is it now you've been calling me a liar. Again me thinks since ION ICO'd at 20 cents you've been calling me that. Now at $1.33 I'm still a liar. Wonder what I'll be when ION hits $4+ ? At what point do I stop being a liar ?

You're a liar because you're lying, nothing to do with ION price. So who lied about the number of employees ionomy had in 2016? You or Matlack or both?

BTW the premine included a lot more than just those two addresses. 100% premine, ~75% in team's hands.

The only reason ION price doesn't come into the discussion is it doesn't fit your narrative The reality is you have been trolling ION/IONOMY  since it's inception that's over 2 years and you still use the same tactics..... yawn

What tactics is that? Not falling for your lies? Yeah that's me.

But ok, let's discuss price going from 45k-55k sat down to 17k immediately after you answer this:

who lied about the number of employees ionomy had in 2016? You or Matlack or both?

I agree on this. You are the only user here that fighting against this such of fraud. Keep up the good fight!

If you think ion/ionomy and myself are frauds then you are 100% wrong. To make an assessment based on BCT posts especially suchmoon's is just being naive.

This is what fraud looks like....  

https://i.gyazo.com/3d93aa97ac351e0f0bee4c80427c055a.png

Hype without substance only lasts for so long, in Paycoin's case it was $13 to 7 cents in 6 mths.

This what fraud doesn't look like

https://i.gyazo.com/69c9a6a66c001a2efee798dc7514e08f.png

ION started life 20/25 cents. Ion is now 2 years 2 months old. No fraud here, what you see is an active development team.

If you think this is all rubbish that's fine your choice but to call us frauds is just plain wrong. BTW the only reason I'm responding is I've looked at your post history seen you've made some good posts so am kinda surprised by this one

how many satoshi did ion start life as and how many now?

What's your point ?

With the price chart you shown in your thread, ION is likely hit its bottoms. That means it is right time to buy ION for long term investment.
Nevertheless, the whole crypto market looks not good ATM.

[korvas128]

Ah yes that's the thread you setup in November 2016  post what you want it's your thread I don't care

Of all the scams and shitcoins in crypto you decide to pick on a coin that isn't and then spend the next 2.5 yrs trying to justify it....... now that is amusing  oops sorry wrong word, it was amusing a year ago now it's hysterical.

I've "picked on" many scams and many ridiculous shitcoins, don't feel so special. If you and your fellow paycoiners didn't lie so much you wouldn't be so much fun to "pick on", so thank you for that.

How many of those coins that you picked on after 2+ years haven't yet flat lined what does that tell you ?

With you all roads lead back to Garza so once again I'm sorry for your butt hurt experiences with him and once again I'm telling you that Garza & Paycoin have absolutely nothing to do with ION or IONOMY.

Whatever your problem is you need to get over it and move on.... it's unhealthy

[suchmoon]

How many of those coins that you picked on after 2+ years haven't yet flat lined what does that tell you ?

With you all roads lead back to Garza so once again I'm sorry for your butt hurt experiences with him and once again I'm telling you that Garza & Paycoin have absolutely nothing to do with ION or IONOMY.

Whatever your problem is you need to get over it and move on.... it's unhealthy

To be fair, the audacity to emit 5.5 million extra coins after 2 years of no results looks like something straight out of Garza's playbook. Which really only had one play - blow the money, ask for more money.

Speaking of unhealthy - I'm quite certain I'm not the one hanging onto the hope that a thrice-hardforked shitcoin and a game with 20 players will make you rich...

But I fully support your freedom to waste your time and money any way you seem fit. I'm a big fan of informed decisions though so excuse me when I post things about ionomy that you don't like. If someone reads it and thinks "hmmm, this incompetent deluded ionomy cult sounds like something I want to partake in" - that's on them.

[jsxcryptoman]

How many now released games in the Google Play and Appstore? Only one game - The Moon or Bust or have more?

[WildShark]

With the price chart you shown in your thread, ION is likely hit its bottoms. That means it is right time to buy ION for long term investment.
Nevertheless, the whole crypto market looks not good ATM.

ION Price is headed for below the One Dollar Mark

[korvas128]

How many now released games in the Google Play and Appstore? Only one game - The Moon or Bust or have more?

The next game to be released will be OffRoad Heat it's a competitive racer. I'm currently part of the alpha test and can happily confirm it's on track (pardon the pun) for a summer release 

[korvas128]

How many of those coins that you picked on after 2+ years haven't yet flat lined what does that tell you ?

With you all roads lead back to Garza so once again I'm sorry for your butt hurt experiences with him and once again I'm telling you that Garza & Paycoin have absolutely nothing to do with ION or IONOMY.

Whatever your problem is you need to get over it and move on.... it's unhealthy

To be fair, the audacity to emit 5.5 million extra coins after 2 years of no results looks like something straight out of Garza's playbook. Which really only had one play - blow the money, ask for more money.

Speaking of unhealthy - I'm quite certain I'm not the one hanging onto the hope that a thrice-hardforked shitcoin and a game with 20 players will make you rich...

But I fully support your freedom to waste your time and money any way you seem fit. I'm a big fan of informed decisions though so excuse me when I post things about ionomy that you don't like. If someone reads it and thinks "hmmm, this incompetent deluded ionomy cult sounds like something I want to partake in" - that's on them.

What's wrong with bringing the coin supply back to spec ?

Those reserves are still there and because they are staking they're growing too.............. You never know they could end up funding an MMO, a AAA game or a 1,000 indie devs. ... the only thing clear though is it won't end up lining their pockets

Don't understand how Ionomy follow the Garza playbook so your gonna have to elaborate. Pre-mine isn't just a Garza thing, just because you or Garza would have already spent the pre-mine you doesn't represent Ionomy and anyway Ion is 2+ years now so don't you think they'd have dipped into funds already

You post whatever you want anywhere you want just expect a response if you post rubbish here 

[suchmoon]

What's wrong with bringing the coin supply back to spec ?

Those reserves are still there and because they are staking they're growing too.............. You never know they could end up funding an MMO, a AAA game or a 1,000 indie devs. ... the only thing clear though is it won't end up lining their pockets

Don't understand how Ionomy follow the Garza playbook so your gonna have to elaborate. Pre-mine isn't just a Garza thing, just because you or Garza would have already spent the pre-mine you doesn't represent Ionomy and anyway Ion is 2+ years now so don't you think they'd have dipped into funds already

LOL, it's already in their pockets. You're completely oblivious to the fact that 75% of the premine ended up under team's control, with ~2 million unsold ICO coins deliberately unaccounted for. Go ahead, ask Matlack to show you how those coins moved since the ICO. Except you won't since you trust the team more than the blockchain. Perfect paycoiner.

The reason that you don't see how this is "a Garza thing" is that you fell for Garza's scheme and you didn't think there was anything wrong with it, and you keep falling for these harebrained schemes without ever trying to question them.

[WildShark]

What's wrong with bringing the coin supply back to spec ?

Those reserves are still there and because they are staking they're growing too.............. You never know they could end up funding an MMO, a AAA game or a 1,000 indie devs. ... the only thing clear though is it won't end up lining their pockets

Don't understand how Ionomy follow the Garza playbook so your gonna have to elaborate. Pre-mine isn't just a Garza thing, just because you or Garza would have already spent the pre-mine you doesn't represent Ionomy and anyway Ion is 2+ years now so don't you think they'd have dipped into funds already

LOL, it's already in their pockets. You're completely oblivious to the fact that 75% of the premine ended up under team's control, with ~2 million unsold ICO coins deliberately unaccounted for. Go ahead, ask Matlack to show you how those coins moved since the ICO. Except you won't since you trust the team more than the blockchain. Perfect paycoiner.

The Team's proposal #1 & 2 ( Adam Matlack scheme) does not add coins to the pre-mined supply that Matlack has control over. The addition of these new coins will be targeted for only ION Masternode and Staking Wallet owners (Ionomy Cult members). This proposal only benefits the Ionomy Cult and causes the value of ION to devalue for the rest of the ION community. This proposal covers the fact that the inflation rate of the ION coin in the original white paper drops severely in year 5. Adding coins to the ION coin supply is not the answer to improving the value/price of ION...

https://ion.community/topic/2355/proposal-to-increase-ion-supply-and-change-inflation-rates

[suchmoon]

The Team's proposal #1 & 2 ( Adam Matlack scheme) does not add coins to the pre-mined supply that Matlack has control over. The addition of these new coins will be targeted for only ION Masternode and Staking Wallet owners (Ionomy Cult members). This proposal only benefits the Ionomy Cult and causes the value of ION to devalue for the rest of the ION community. This proposal covers the fact that the inflation rate of the ION coin in the original white paper drops severely in year 5. Adding coins to the ION coin supply is not the answer to improving the value/price of ION...

The "team" owns somewhere between 50-75% of the total supply so consequently will end up with 3-4 million of the 5.5 million new coins.

[WildShark]

The Team's proposal #1 & 2 ( Adam Matlack scheme) does not add coins to the pre-mined supply that Matlack has control over. The addition of these new coins will be targeted for only ION Masternode and Staking Wallet owners (Ionomy Cult members). This proposal only benefits the Ionomy Cult and causes the value of ION to devalue for the rest of the ION community. This proposal covers the fact that the inflation rate of the ION coin in the original white paper drops severely in year 5. Adding coins to the ION coin supply is not the answer to improving the value/price of ION...

https://ion.community/topic/2355/proposal-to-increase-ion-supply-and-change-inflation-rates

The "team" owns somewhere between 50-75% of the total supply so consequently will end up with 3-4 million of the 5.5 million new coins.

Being that they are the leaders of the Ionomy Cult, they deserve the bonus..

Making the ION Blockchain pooping out more coins will not increase the value of the coin..

[WildShark]

[korvas128]

What's wrong with bringing the coin supply back to spec ?

Those reserves are still there and because they are staking they're growing too.............. You never know they could end up funding an MMO, a AAA game or a 1,000 indie devs. ... the only thing clear though is it won't end up lining their pockets

Don't understand how Ionomy follow the Garza playbook so your gonna have to elaborate. Pre-mine isn't just a Garza thing, just because you or Garza would have already spent the pre-mine you doesn't represent Ionomy and anyway Ion is 2+ years now so don't you think they'd have dipped into funds already

LOL, it's already in their pockets. You're completely oblivious to the fact that 75% of the premine ended up under team's control, with ~2 million unsold ICO coins deliberately unaccounted for. Go ahead, ask Matlack to show you how those coins moved since the ICO. Except you won't since you trust the team more than the blockchain. Perfect paycoiner.

The reason that you don't see how this is "a Garza thing" is that you fell for Garza's scheme and you didn't think there was anything wrong with it, and you keep falling for these harebrained schemes without ever trying to question them.

Interesting theory the only problem with it is time. This ION your talking about has been in they're pockets since the ICO so plenty of time to liquidate assets but it hasn't happened. XPY lasted 6 months ION is 2 years 3 months and counting. Again your trying to position them as crooks when the only evidence is what speculation

With Garza 3 months into XPY the evidence of his fraud was everywhere here it 2 years+ and all we have is your speculation 

Why don't you be a good cop and do BCT a favour. Go investigate all the dodgy masternode offerings that will be gone in a few months leaving their owners penniless.

[suchmoon]

Interesting theory the only problem with it is time. This ION your talking about has been in they're pockets since the ICO so plenty of time to liquidate assets but it hasn't happened. XPY lasted 6 months ION is 2 years 3 months and counting. Again your trying to position them as crooks when the only evidence is what speculation

How do you know they haven't dumped the 2 million? Because they told you so? There is evidence but of course you're refusing to see it. For example - where do the weekly tournament prizes come from? Clearly not from the "official" bounty address.

With Garza 3 months into XPY the evidence of his fraud was everywhere here it 2 years+ and all we have is your speculation  

With Garza the evidence of his fraud started surfacing in ~ August of 2014 and way before XPY was even conceived. You morons praised him well into 2015 and tried to "fix" XPY for year after that. Now of course you're gonna praise ionomy too for as long as they keep lying to you...

Why don't you be a good cop and do BCT a favour. Go investigate all the dodgy masternode offerings that will be gone in a few months leaving their owners penniless.

Typical shitcoiner fallacy. There are other shitcoins out there so yours must be not so bad, right? How about you go ahead and "investigate" since you pretend to know these things and care so much. Except you don't, it's just convenient to use it for your deflection.

[korvas128]

Interesting theory the only problem with it is time. This ION your talking about has been in they're pockets since the ICO so plenty of time to liquidate assets but it hasn't happened. XPY lasted 6 months ION is 2 years 3 months and counting. Again your trying to position them as crooks when the only evidence is what speculation

How do you know they haven't dumped the 2 million? Because they told you so? There is evidence but of course you're refusing to see it. For example - where do the weekly tournament prizes come from? Clearly not from the "official" bounty address.

With Garza 3 months into XPY the evidence of his fraud was everywhere here it 2 years+ and all we have is your speculation  

With Garza the evidence of his fraud started surfacing in ~ August of 2014 and way before XPY was even conceived. You morons praised him well into 2015 and tried to "fix" XPY for year after that. Now of course you're gonna praise ionomy too for as long as they keep lying to you...

Why don't you be a good cop and do BCT a favour. Go investigate all the dodgy masternode offerings that will be gone in a few months leaving their owners penniless.

Typical shitcoiner fallacy. There are other shitcoins out there so yours must be not so bad, right? How about you go ahead and "investigate" since you pretend to know these things and care so much. Except you don't, it's just convenient to use it for your deflection.

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How do you know they haven't dumped the 2 million? Because they told you so? There is evidence but of course you're refusing to see it. For example - where do the weekly tournament prizes come from? Clearly not from the "official" bounty address.

You've gone from the Devs pocketing the money to the Devs using the money to fund prizes for people playing 'TMOB'. How dare the devs reward people for playing their games that's terrible

You speculating is not evidence it's just you speculating

With Garza the evidence of his fraud started surfacing in ~ August of 2014 and way before XPY was even conceived. You morons praised him well into 2015 and tried to "fix" XPY for year after that. Now of course you're gonna praise ionomy too for as long as they keep lying to you...

Did he ? I don't know, being based in Europe I didn't buy any of his mining equipment..... of course I'm gonna praise Ionomy as when everybody ran they stayed trying to save XPY. When they figured out that the XPY devs weren't up to the job they broke away and that's when ion was launched. I'm glad they did as my XPY got converted to ION and what money Garza screwed me for within 6 months I recovered and have been in the black ever since.

Typical shitcoiner fallacy. There are other shitcoins out there so yours must be not so bad, right? How about you go ahead and "investigate" since you pretend to know these things and care so much. Except you don't, it's just convenient to use it for your deflection.

Once again you fail to factor in time, shitcoins don't last more a year. ION 2 years 3 months, my first ION nodes have been staking now for 2 years 2 months that is SUCCESS not failure. I'm not trying to deflect anything your the BCT cop not me I'm just an ION investor telling you that your wasting your time. 

[suchmoon]

How do you know they haven't dumped the 2 million? Because they told you so? There is evidence but of course you're refusing to see it. For example - where do the weekly tournament prizes come from? Clearly not from the "official" bounty address.

You've gone from the Devs pocketing the money to the Devs using the money to fund prizes for people playing 'TMOB'. How dare the devs reward people for playing their games that's terrible

You speculating is not evidence it's just you speculating

You don't need to quote me twice, I know quite well what I posted.

This is evidence that the "team" is not using the funds the way their own whitepaper states. What else do you need, Matlack himself telling you that he pocketed the money? Even then you'd just shrug it off. You don't care about blockchain or transparency.

With Garza the evidence of his fraud started surfacing in ~ August of 2014 and way before XPY was even conceived. You morons praised him well into 2015 and tried to "fix" XPY for year after that. Now of course you're gonna praise ionomy too for as long as they keep lying to you...

Did he ? I don't know, being based in Europe I didn't buy any of his mining equipment.....

What does that have to do with anything? Garza started selling hashlets in August 2014... that's the "SEC-approved" ponzi scheme that morphed into XPY. You bought into said ponzi scheme 4+ months later despite the number of red flags that would make Kim Jong Un proud. Being in Europe makes you incredibly dense?

of course I'm gonna praise Ionomy as when everybody ran they stayed trying to save XPY. When they figured out that the XPY devs weren't up to the job they broke away and that's when ion was launched. I'm glad they did as my XPY got converted to ION and what money Garza screwed me for within 6 months I recovered and have been in the black ever since.

Yeah right... what was your XPY cost basis?

Once again you fail to factor in time, shitcoins don't last more a year.

Yes, let's factor in time. Down to 14k sat in 2 years while the rest of the market was booming. Even with BTC down to $6k-ish, ION is still underperforming horribly. I wonder if that has anything to do with the one shitty game they have.

[WildShark]

[korvas128]

How do you know they haven't dumped the 2 million? Because they told you so? There is evidence but of course you're refusing to see it. For example - where do the weekly tournament prizes come from? Clearly not from the "official" bounty address.

You've gone from the Devs pocketing the money to the Devs using the money to fund prizes for people playing 'TMOB'. How dare the devs reward people for playing their games that's terrible

You speculating is not evidence it's just you speculating

You don't need to quote me twice, I know quite well what I posted.

This is evidence that the "team" is not using the funds the way their own whitepaper states. What else do you need, Matlack himself telling you that he pocketed the money? Even then you'd just shrug it off. You don't care about blockchain or transparency.

With Garza the evidence of his fraud started surfacing in ~ August of 2014 and way before XPY was even conceived. You morons praised him well into 2015 and tried to "fix" XPY for year after that. Now of course you're gonna praise ionomy too for as long as they keep lying to you...

Did he ? I don't know, being based in Europe I didn't buy any of his mining equipment.....

What does that have to do with anything? Garza started selling hashlets in August 2014... that's the "SEC-approved" ponzi scheme that morphed into XPY. You bought into said ponzi scheme 4+ months later despite the number of red flags that would make Kim Jong Un proud. Being in Europe makes you incredibly dense?

of course I'm gonna praise Ionomy as when everybody ran they stayed trying to save XPY. When they figured out that the XPY devs weren't up to the job they broke away and that's when ion was launched. I'm glad they did as my XPY got converted to ION and what money Garza screwed me for within 6 months I recovered and have been in the black ever since.

Yeah right... what was your XPY cost basis?

Once again you fail to factor in time, shitcoins don't last more a year.

Yes, let's factor in time. Down to 14k sat in 2 years while the rest of the market was booming. Even with BTC down to $6k-ish, ION is still underperforming horribly. I wonder if that has anything to do with the one shitty game they have.

Supposition does not = evidence

My point is unlike you my exposure to GAW was just hashlets & XPY with you it was mining too. Again unlike you I recovered what I lost so when your lover boy is sentenced unlike you I won't really give a shit about the compensation all I'll care about is justice. Justice = Jail sentence.   

XPY Cost basis ...... We've done this twice now not doing it again. XPY >> ION >> POS >> Masternode = Profit

And yes let's factor in time, in case anyone wonders why I don't take you seriously....

Suchmoon trolling June 13 2018 ------- This post
Suchmoon trolling June 13 2017 ------- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.7280
Suchmoon trolling June 13 2016 ------- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15190392#msg15190392

Wonder what your troll post of June 13 2019 is going to be ?

There's lots of stuff soon to break so lets see what that does to the price.

[suchmoon]

My point is unlike you my exposure to GAW was just hashlets & XPY with you it was mining too. Again unlike you I recovered what I lost so when your lover boy is sentenced unlike you I won't really give a shit about the compensation all I'll care about is justice. Justice = Jail sentence.   

Yes, do the korvas thing, lie some more to mask the fact that you're clueless . You do realize that mining hardware was the one thing that GAW actually delivered and hashlets+XPY was the scam part? No? Too complicated?

XPY Cost basis ...... We've done this twice now not doing it again. XPY >> ION >> POS >> Masternode = Profit

Yes, XPY cost basis. Not that I expect you to be able to do the math or to be honest about it, just highlighting the fact that you're lying about "profit". If you bought hashlets and XPY you would need ION to be around $30-50 to break even.