Save a Life, Save a Family with Bitcoin

[czechkid]

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She is Slovakian but that operation needs to take place in Czech Republic. Because it is in Czech Republic the health insurance doesnt want to pay. There will be other expenses as well but the operation it self cost 7000 euros (with 50% discount because of history of Czechoslovakia)
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You mean private or public health insurance?

If it's a case of Slovakia not being able to provide necessary treatment (lack of facilities/specialists) and referred her to Czech Republic, then by all means the cost of surgery should be covered by insurance (whether private or public). But that's just my understanding and I might be wrong.

And if it's a case of private insurer trying to weasel-out of paying, often the best course of action is to contact the local/national media, the risk of bad PR should be enough to make them change their decision.

Hope everything goes well.

Guess I can't believe such stories anymore. Each day not a few of such messages are deleted on the forum. Simple tries to get some free coins. And till now everything you did could be easily done by a scammer that thought it through a bit more. A website, twitter, unique text, users coming in here and wanting to tip instantly... well as long as you are not able to provide real proof of the story and your identity... I doubt you will convince a real tipper. The reason is that this place is filled with so many scammers that it is quite unbelieveable.

OP seems to be keen on providing proofs. Just let him know what kind of proofs are you looking for and give him a chance to deliver.

Its a public Slovakian insurance and she was not recommended to Czech thats why she has to pay it. In Czech they have a special robot that will cut it out perfectly. In Slovakia they do it by hand and nobody has survived the operation yet.

Thank you for your support.

[SebastianJu]

Does the official fundraising website proof the case? I play the devils advocate here but on most fundraising sites you simply can open anything you want. Even for a random persons foto you found on the net. Doesn't mean that that person is sick or that she get the money at all.

Well, the best proof would be what the exchanges found as a legal proof for government. They demand a copy of the ID. Back and front. A picture of the person holding the ID beside his face. Then a utility bill as proof of address or so. Don't know if I forgot something.

Even if you would provide the proof... who would know that you would forward the money and that you don't keep it?

I know I make your life hard but I'm escrow on here because I saw way too many scams happening and it's saddening to see the victims.

Did you mention why you posted in this forum?

[czechkid]

Does the official fundraising website proof the case? I play the devils advocate here but on most fundraising sites you simply can open anything you want. Even for a random persons foto you found on the net. Doesn't mean that that person is sick or that she get the money at all.

Well, the best proof would be what the exchanges found as a legal proof for government. They demand a copy of the ID. Back and front. A picture of the person holding the ID beside his face. Then a utility bill as proof of address or so. Don't know if I forgot something.

Even if you would provide the proof... who would know that you would forward the money and that you don't keep it?

I know I make your life hard but I'm escrow on here because I saw way too many scams happening and it's saddening to see the victims.

Did you mention why you posted in this forum?

The website doesnt require any proof of this. I think that would just be sick person doing such thing. We have received donations already from friends and family. My father donated. Some people write there in slovakian that he can only donate 5 euro because he is without a job.

I understand your concern but you can take it up with the fundraising website but im not going to send you her medical reports thats just too much. I can provide you my identity but if youdoubt her sickness than im not sure what i can do for you.

Do you trust that gmail or facebook doesnt read your messages and emails? You know what i mean youre digging too deep.

People can donate and dont have to.

[pawel7777]

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Well, the best proof would be what the exchanges found as a legal proof for government. They demand a copy of the ID. Back and front. A picture of the person holding the ID beside his face. Then a utility bill as proof of address or so. Don't know if I forgot something.
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That's indeed a solid proof but sharing those on the forum is a very bad idea. Any scammer could use such photos to steal OP's identity.

[czechkid]

Does the official fundraising website proof the case? I play the devils advocate here but on most fundraising sites you simply can open anything you want. Even for a random persons foto you found on the net. Doesn't mean that that person is sick or that she get the money at all.

Well, the best proof would be what the exchanges found as a legal proof for government. They demand a copy of the ID. Back and front. A picture of the person holding the ID beside his face. Then a utility bill as proof of address or so. Don't know if I forgot something.

Even if you would provide the proof... who would know that you would forward the money and that you don't keep it?

I know I make your life hard but I'm escrow on here because I saw way too many scams happening and it's saddening to see the victims.

Did you mention why you posted in this forum?

Just too add. You are an escrow on here.whats your proof that one day you wont be the bad guy in any situation?

[Amph]

Guess I can't believe such stories anymore. Each day not a few of such messages are deleted on the forum. Simple tries to get some free coins. And till now everything you did could be easily done by a scammer that thought it through a bit more. A website, twitter, unique text, users coming in here and wanting to tip instantly... well as long as you are not able to provide real proof of the story and your identity... I doubt you will convince a real tipper. The reason is that this place is filled with so many scammers that it is quite unbelieveable.

Yes i understand what you are saying and this angers me a lot because i hope that bitcoin itself will bring people all over the world closer together and forget about greed and stuff like that.

Regarding to the proof. Im open to anything. Just tell me what to do i will do it.

Im willing to send my ID if people would be convinced and donated but than again you can say i googled it...sooo tell me what to do and i will do it

And if people think im a scammer they can still donate to the official fundraiser with fiat money and Anna will get the money

you can post a video and post a screen of the doctors that say that she actually got a cancer, video cannot be faked so easily

[iram66680]

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If you have any other questions please ask

Who are you? What's your relationship with Ms Adamcova? Care to provide any proofs?

The cost totals to 7000Euros. Only this operation can save her life!

Both Czech Republic/UK (not clear what's her country of residence) have free healthcare. She wouldn't be charged anything for the surgery. And if for some reasons she/her family have chosen to do it elsewhere and pay for it, it would cost way more than 7k EUR.

This story just doesn't add up, unless there are some additional details which you failed to describe.

I have heard of stories like this too but not with bitcoin as a payment option.
This is a first.
The other ones I am referring too is about a mother who used her daughter's sickness (degenerative disease) to withdraw $6000 in total from her account right before she died and did not spend a penny to save her. So this is highly skeptical to me as well unless you can post proofs with photos and legal documentation. But I doubt you are willing to go that far as she is not even real family blood, right? 

[SebastianJu]

I have proven my integrity by holding large sums of bitcoin and paying them out without running with them. That speaks for me and that I would not do something funny.

Anyway... it might be that everything is true what you said but at the same time it would be so easy to make everything up that was been said till now.

Of course the ID should not be posted publicly, only verified by one or two trusted persons would help. But even then... it would only verify you, and would leave many questions open regarding the flow of the money.

Anyway... I think I will stop to bring in doubts. I said what I felt I should said. If someone wants to help then check things out and when you feel it's legit then tip...


iram66680


You probably don't see the threads because they are deleted fast but there were already many scam attempts on here that used such stories. This one wasn't deleted because a website and crowdfunding and all is behind which makes it less likely to be a quick scam.

[amacar2]

I can place a picture of QR code in there as well if that would help

Ok we can see there is QR code in the page now, let me check its the same address you posted or not. Are you the organizer real one for that campaign?
€200+ within 2 days is really good collection, you should list addresses who give donation to your bitcoin address here in OP ok. I will pm you after i send you not much but few $.

[Boosterious]

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Well, the best proof would be what the exchanges found as a legal proof for government. They demand a copy of the ID. Back and front. A picture of the person holding the ID beside his face. Then a utility bill as proof of address or so. Don't know if I forgot something.
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That's indeed a solid proof but sharing those on the forum is a very bad idea. Any scammer could use such photos to steal OP's identity.

yeah its might happen here,so many people try to scamming us with so many way. i hope op get what he want,get big donations and locked or delete this thread soon,before scammer try to steal OP's identity.

[tyz]

I agree with you!

I would like to spend a little amount of Bitcoin to help her, too. But there are too many scams out there which try to scam people with some poor situation. I do not want to be harsh either, but there should be a prove that she is really doing bad.

Sorry if this sounds really harsh, but is there any way you can prove that you are indeed the person you claim to be?
Look at it from our perspective: it would be pretty easy for anybody to go trough a goodwill site, pick a real story from real people with real problems, and then come to the bitcoin forum, claiming to be an uncle, son, father and asking for donations.

The main problem is that this site is full of scammers who wouldn't hesistate to pull a trick like this for a couple measily bucks.

[czechkid]

I have proven my integrity by holding large sums of bitcoin and paying them out without running with them. That speaks for me and that I would not do something funny.

Anyway... it might be that everything is true what you said but at the same time it would be so easy to make everything up that was been said till now.

Of course the ID should not be posted publicly, only verified by one or two trusted persons would help. But even then... it would only verify you, and would leave many questions open regarding the flow of the money.

Anyway... I think I will stop to bring in doubts. I said what I felt I should said. If someone wants to help then check things out and when you feel it's legit then tip...


iram66680


You probably don't see the threads because they are deleted fast but there were already many scam attempts on here that used such stories. This one wasn't deleted because a website and crowdfunding and all is behind which makes it less likely to be a quick scam.

That doesnt prove that one day youwont run away with bitcoins.

[czechkid]

You guys are so funny. You should gofor a walk time to time. I know the world is bad but youre too sceptil about everything.

Go ask your mom if she is your real mom because now a days there is a lot of scammers.

As much as i hate to say bitcoin community failed at helping others. I will hopefully find otherways to getthis 7000.

Please close this thread

[Amph]

so you come here expecting money for free? are you so naive?

it does not matter what you need to do with this money, even it they were used to help half of the population of the world, you still need valid proof that all this is true

there are like 90% scammers here, that rely on those kinda of stuff to scam, you can not even trust escrow with +200 trust anymore and you want us to trust an almost new user, don't make me laugh

[HostSurf]

so you come here expecting money for free? are you so naive?

it does not matter what you need to do with this money, even it they were used to help half of the population of the world, you still need valid proof that all this is true

there are like 90% scammers here, that rely on those kinda of stuff to scam, you can not even trust escrow with +200 trust anymore and you want us to trust an almost new user, don't make me laugh

Correct, I find the same attitude of several of threads.
Firstly there is no guarantee you will use it for that purpose
Secondly raising money in a real life fund is way more benefical if the goal is right.

Guess the goal isn't that good right...

[SebastianJu]

That doesnt prove that one day youwont run away with bitcoins.

I held half a million USD of bitcoins in escrow at one time. Surely there is no chance that I will hold such amount again since nowadays nearly nobody moves around such amounts of value anymore. It lowered alot.

Well, I did not say that I want to hold bitcoins here anyway...

[btvGainer]

Sorry but the link you provided in op is not working for me.Getting this msg
" We're sorry but the page you are
looking for cannot be found..."
Can you please check again?

[pawel7777]

Sorry but the link you provided in op is not working for me.Getting this msg
" We're sorry but the page you are
looking for cannot be found..."
Can you please check again?

Link from the first post works fine for me, but I'm getting the same error message when clicking link from his signature

[Jasad]

Sorry but the link you provided in op is not working for me.Getting this msg
" We're sorry but the page you are
looking for cannot be found..."
Can you please check again?

maybe you should try to reload again the page,or change the ip address,i still can open the page,and i see the donation still on 226 euros,still so far away from 7000 euro,i hope big donatur coming soon to help.

[jak1]

I really feeling bad for you, your painful story, but i thing in this campaign it is not possible for everyone to help you, but i will pray for you, God help you, actually everyone in bitcointalk to want to earn bitcoin not to give fund to others.