Easier newbie integration

[RealBitcoin]

Do I like it better .... yes.  That guide telling people to get 4 accounts was not good for anyone.   So I think you did right thing pulling it vs just locking. 

Not sure why the My lord part.  If you make a suggestion in meta be prepared for feedback.  When you want to lower new account post time and have written in past a guide on basically spam.... you feedback might not be what you want.  But as you can see most think it's more then fair to keep the current timer to stop spam, and sig spammers in low levels.

It was just a criticism because you are telling everyone else what to do, which is a bit annoying sometimes.


My guides are just informative for education purposes. My goal is only to help bitcoin succeed, and for that we need the newbies participation rate to increase.

We can deal with spam in other ways too, but if we lose thousands of newbies because they get bored or lose interest because of the hardness to integrate then its a big loss. And sometimes its hard to quantify, we see how many people join bitcoin, but we dont see how many people we lose in bitcoin.

So i`m sure there are ways to optimize the costs and benefits of more newbies joining us, and make bitcoin more accesible for everyone.

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[notlist3d]

Do I like it better .... yes.  That guide telling people to get 4 accounts was not good for anyone.   So I think you did right thing pulling it vs just locking.  

Not sure why the My lord part.  If you make a suggestion in meta be prepared for feedback.  When you want to lower new account post time and have written in past a guide on basically spam.... you feedback might not be what you want.  But as you can see most think it's more then fair to keep the current timer to stop spam, and sig spammers in low levels.

It was just a criticism because you are telling everyone else what to do, which is a bit annoying sometimes.

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You had a guide telling people to use 4 accounts with signature campaigns, even comparing it to a job.   I don't think it was right, it does not help forum at all.  You came to meta and got feedback.  Meta you get feedback on your idea with past posts considered.

Your idea with having a guide pushing 4 accounts each person... made it seem you are very pro spammer/crap posts.  I give you some points for taking it down though.   But It is very fair to bring up that you had that guide when pushing for what you are.  So criticism yes... but fair to bring up?  Yes.

Your ideas just will not happen due to spammers and the type of people that followed a guide like you had.  Waiting I think as new account due to all good it does.  If it lasted forever I would have agreed with you.  But it goes down the longer they stay and post on forum.   So it really does prevent spam and a lot of bad things.

And registration is already good with bad IP's.  Sure you can add capatcha but the bad IP's and evil points do far more and it's already in place.

[Slow death]

When I was a newbie posted and taken 5 min to post again I was extremely annoyed that I thought about leaving the forum and not return more

very annoying to have to wait 5 minutes to post, but I got used.

Today the newbie are registered because they want to disclose anything, so create an account for this purpose, but has old accounts

I believe that to do not have a negative reputation in their old accounts

[Lauda]

When I was a newbie posted and taken 5 min to post again I was extremely annoyed that I thought about leaving the forum and not return more

There are usually no valid reasons to post again under that time limit,unless you are both involved and reading multiple threads simultaneously. The people who tend to create a 'burst of posts' in threads that they are not involved with are usually spammers.

very annoying to have to wait 5 minutes to post, but I got used.

As soon as you rank up you will forget about it.

[CryptoBuddha]

Well, i have a brand new registration, though have been reading some threads for about a year. As a newbie i can tell that reading throu this topic took about 5 mins and forming a readable post about 1 more minute. And this is definitely NOT the longest and most complicated topic on the forum. So i am quite comfortable with this posting limit, as i have more to read here than to post.

[Lauda]

Well, i have a brand new registration, though have been reading some threads for about a year. As a newbie i can tell that reading throu this topic took about 5 mins and forming a readable post about 1 more minute. And this is definitely NOT the longest and most complicated topic on the forum. So i am quite comfortable with this posting limit, as i have more to read here than to post.

Finally, a 'new member' that confirms it. The situations in which one would need to post under 6 minutes are rare, especially at the lower ranks. As far as any longer thread is concerned: If you are able to formulate a post in a very short amount of time, you are most likely just spamming for some reason (e.g. signature spam). However, I can image a situation in which the limitation might be problematic, e.g. one in which a newbie creates a thread and asks a question or two. However, this would imply that someone would both read and reply to the thread within 6 minutes as well (ergo the limitation 'comes down to less').
Update: Rewritten parts of post.

[RealBitcoin]

Ok then you guys have convinced me, its is probably good as it is for now.

But I hope in the future we will see some improvements to reduce spam and to increase quality for newbies as well, a good balance.