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June 13, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
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if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price
Yes, in many times that bitcoin price changes I doubt if someone is manipulating prices to make more profit, some people who own lots of bitcoin and fluctuations can have a lot of profit for them.

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June 13, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.

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June 13, 2016, 01:37:33 PM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease
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June 13, 2016, 02:07:59 PM
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if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

Thats just stupid, thats means you are sacrificing your bitcoin to do that while there are other chance to manipulate it. For example creating buy pressure by making thousand of bitcoin buy order incase you have the money or create thousand of huge sell order to scare the small fish
yeah it was just sacrificing your bitcoin only because not all the opportunity to succeed to create a panic selling to users? especially at this time bitcoin users increased very much. I'm sure even if you have a large capital. you will not be able to scare users more than 10 million users? it's just pointless


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June 13, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
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if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

Thats just stupid, thats means you are sacrificing your bitcoin to do that while there are other chance to manipulate it. For example creating buy pressure by making thousand of bitcoin buy order incase you have the money or create thousand of huge sell order to scare the small fish
yeah it was just sacrificing your bitcoin only because not all the opportunity to succeed to create a panic selling to users? especially at this time bitcoin users increased very much. I'm sure even if you have a large capital. you will not be able to scare users more than 10 million users? it's just pointless

Some people have a small pump group that has around few millions dollars at their own pocket so a one single person action wont do anything. Besides manipulating it yourself needs a lot of works and some people might just be denying what you are doing though because you are not the only one with money

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June 13, 2016, 05:12:50 PM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.
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June 14, 2016, 07:20:08 AM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.
The Chinese people are real, they are making it because they want to use it on their business. I think this is not a trick to manipulate the price and it is the real demand for a possible good business they are planning, we know Chinese people are business minded.
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June 14, 2016, 09:08:54 AM
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I think the Chinese speculators not the Chinese miners are affecting the price at the moment. With a population so huge in China there are a lot of wealthy people living there who are interested into investing their money in profitable ventures and Bitcoin presents a perfect opportunity for them to grab a quick profit by jumping on the Bitcoin bandwagon. The hype of the upcoming halving certainly makes for a very good timing to buy a bunch of Bitcoin right now because everyone is holding their coins so the price is bound to increase.

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June 21, 2016, 10:51:21 PM
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if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price
yeah if you have a large capital Surely you can do price manipulation. but for the price you at least require the thousands bitcoin to be able to manipulate bitcoin prices. if you only have a small capital You can start by manipulating the price of altcoin dude Cheesy


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June 21, 2016, 11:58:59 PM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
I think with the continued increase in user or adopter. the greater the volume in the market bitcoin. the greater the volume of bitcoin market it will be more difficult as well they will manipulate the price of bitcoin This job is very risky to give you defeat because not all possibilities can be managed to manipulate prices capital must also be very large

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June 22, 2016, 12:14:34 AM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

What i think if we don't have enough Bitcoin, We won't be able to manipulate its price, unless all Bitcointalk members will agree or cooperate. One person can manipulate prices if he/she have many Bitcoin, That's whats happening now why the Bitcoin is down so fast.

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June 22, 2016, 12:24:15 AM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.

I really agree with this. Big players or whales can manipulate bitcoin's price, because they have many bitcoins and can make the price of bitcoin decrease and increase easily.
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June 22, 2016, 02:54:29 AM
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The hard thing is to convince enough people to move the market in a certain direction. Some people are going to want drops to buy at a good price and take advantage of others that will be losing money.
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June 22, 2016, 05:43:57 AM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.
But they indeed the reason why the price keeps on going up and suddenly goes up from time to time. They hold most of the bitcoins current market capacity and by that, it only means that they are the one who can manipulate the price of bitcoin.
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June 22, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the  reason, the price value isn't random.
We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.

yeah, i hope that too. because if that is true these Chinese can dump bitcoin so fast as they have bought it. but i don't think the price rise is all about Chinese buying bitcoin. it has many other reasons and Chinese is only help speed up the process and make the top bigger.

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June 22, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

If we have hundreds of millions of $$$ in bitcoins we can manipulate the price,which is highly unlikely...

I think that 99% of bitcointalk users are poor in bitcoin holdings. Sad

And i don`t think that it`s possible to form a cartel.We can`t control each other.

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June 23, 2016, 10:19:08 AM
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There are people/entities that do not need even 1 cent to manipulate BTC market.

Look what Mike Hern`s announcement has done with BTC price some months ago.

If for example Finex that generates more than 20% of western trades spreads fud that they are hacked BTC price will tank.


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June 23, 2016, 10:55:41 AM
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setting aside the ethical and legal question of manipulating the markets, yes, it is probably possible to force the price up or down for a limited period of time, providing that you have enough capital at your disposal, but the market would probably go back to the equilibrium soon enough.

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July 01, 2016, 07:11:33 AM
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setting aside the ethical and legal question of manipulating the markets, yes, it is probably possible to force the price up or down for a limited period of time, providing that you have enough capital at your disposal, but the market would probably go back to the equilibrium soon enough.
Indeed, in this venture the majority will dictate the game and even if the price will go down a bit but with continue demand on the supply the price will back up in a short time.
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July 02, 2016, 01:53:08 AM
Last edit: July 31, 2016, 09:01:27 PM by Seansky
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We can manipulate bitcoin price if we got more than 10000$ easily. Even 1000$ I think would do to make a little pump or dump. You can pump it and put a buy wall and sell wall so that you can sell your bitcoin with profit while pumping or dump it then wait for a chain of sell reaction then set sell to the lowest possible.  Grin
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